Not very often I come into stray logs but here I am only a week later. No guesses on this one yet. Thought I'd ask the gurus since I'll end up coming here for confirmation anyway.
Edit: I've removed the two leaf photos I think that's something else the logs are sitting on. Will try and update with a photo later.
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Here's another few pics of the tree beside it, owner thinks it was the same. First leaf is up 10m or so, so that's an image at 17x zoom hah.
Yellow poplar..?
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Probably, but a knarly one. ;D
I might take the big log with the limbs and slab it, looks like it will be figured whatever it is. there's not really anything there worth sawing into boards anyway.
The leaves look like yellow poplar, as you suggest. The logs don't make me think yellow poplar, although I guess they could be.
Here's the piece with the limbs slabbed up. Pretty nice really. Odd smell, almost like a cow shed but not quite.
Pretty happy I grabbed it whatever it is
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The sawn wood is certainly not yellow poplar. YP is diffuse porous. Your slabs are ring porous.
Yeah that aint the tulip we have here. Leaves look right though. Hmm
"Yellow poplar", aka tulip tree, is Liriodendron tulipifera. There is also a Liriodendron chinense, and this could be that. Does not explain the wood grain discrepancy though.
Not like my poplar. As a wild guess any chance it could be a Neem/Chinaberry of some sort? Also looks like some chestnut.
Yeah I could believe chestnut, looking at pictures.
The smell is something I've smelled before but I can't put my finger on it... Like when you've held someone's baby but handed it back because it's crapped its diaper, and you're not sure if you got any on you but you can definitely smell something off staying with you... Relateable? :D :D
Ill fire through an email to a friend he may know.
just wait til its your baby, its covered in crap, and so are you. good times.
;D
I'll have a frame to affix said baby to, for such situations. And a pressure washer next to it with a warm water supply..
I tried. Mom will veto that and send it back to the house for a recount.
I might be grasping at straws now but I dropped in again today, the arborist has done a remarkable job of cleaning up, no brush left anywhere that I could find.
I did see the area littered with these leaves, yellow and wilted and nothing around that seemed to resemble them though I didn't look that hard.
Does whatever might sprout these leaves align with what I've got here sawn?
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Dunno but i reckon youre lucky to still have that thumb josh.
Lol put ya magnifying glass away old feller.
I was changing knives on the planer and clonked the rotor onto my thumb while turning it by hand. Did a good job of sharpening them evidently.
Riight I think I'm done being a clown now. I went back for the other logs today and found a new growing point with new leaves.
Could it be elm?
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Youre in new zealand right? The cut logs have sprouted shoots on the ground?
Only tree ive seen do that so far myself is locust. Google rubinea.
Are you holding individual leaves or are they stemmed together?
Appears to be from a different tree than previous photos. Not especially elm-like.
I believe that it is elm because the leaf characteristics indicate elm, doubly serrate leaves and the inequilateral leaf base. Bark looks right too for some of the elms that have a scaly-ish bark.
You're seeing things I did not, W. I was looking for unequal leaf bases but see no such in photos provided, or at best, a tiny hint of same. Not saying you're wrong, but rather, if this is present, it is quite subtle in this case, if there at all. That said, I'm no completist expert on the elms of Asia and points southward.
Definitely not from the same tree as earlier leaves shown.
In the first photo, on the leaf between his fingers, the leaf base shows a bit of inequilateral but I agree that it is not obvious or dramatic. Maybe the OP can take pics of a few more leaves showing the leaf base. If they are actually inequilateral we should be able to see it.
Yes I think the owner originally saying it was a twin to the neighbouring tree has been incorrect. I arrived to logs on the ground and a well cleaned up space. The yellow leaves I found around the place are from another scrubby tree that got flattened underneath it in the process according to him. So, scrap everything I've said prior to this.
I don't think this growing point has burst since the tree came down, I just didn't notice it until now
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Individual leaves I was holding but they're not bunched from same steam. I'd say eliptical, definitely serrated. One leaf per node, I think.
I wish I could send the smell, I'm sure someone would know it.
My guess is some sort of Elm.
Don't know them well enough to tell you species though.
leaf - YouTube (https://youtu.be/FGadGqpDrJY)
Surely is an elm. If correct, the latewood pores on the end grain should be arranged in distinct wavy bands.
Oh yeah, it's an elm now lol.
Lots of juice when sawed into?
Once an elm always an elm :).
We can all guess or we can look at defining characteristics to verify if it is an elm or not,. With the information given, the potential diagnosis will be confirmed by examining the end grain. Or not.
Endgrain shots coming up..
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Still very wet obviously.
Here's a couple under a loupe too
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Beautiful pics!!
The wavy bands in the large wood confirm that it is elm.
Great! Thanks for participating in that rollercoaster ride haha.
Another good find for me then.