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Title: log longer than mill
Post by: DanL on November 15, 2021, 07:57:19 AM
Folks, I did a search in every word configuration about this subject and still got nada. I am only speculating with this question. I actually do not have plans to do this but:

For Example:
I am getting a Woodland mills HM 126. I am getting the extension which puts it to about 16+/- feet. Say on rare occasion, one would like to have an 18' or 20' cant or beam. Is this a NO-NO or is there a reasonable method in which to saw a longer than frame beam?

Thanks from this neophyte & Be gentle :)

DanL
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: WV Sawmiller on November 15, 2021, 08:02:05 AM
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=tips

  See if this helps. It is in the knowledge base under extras here on the FF. It is under tips and under the bandmills threads. Let us know if it works okay for you. Good luck.
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: DanL on November 15, 2021, 08:25:18 AM
EXCELLENT! thanks for the info. Still, and will be forever, learning the ropes and passage ways around here.

Many thanks,
DanL
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: Digger Don on November 15, 2021, 09:02:04 AM
Thank you, WV! There is a lot of great information there. 

But, is there an easier way to print some of the pages? When I tried, the first page is the FF header and the rest is blank. Then, the next pages have about 25% of the bottom taken up by links, footers and what I'll call legal stuff. Is there some way to get the info, without all the other stuff?
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: WV Sawmiller on November 15, 2021, 09:06:11 AM
   I am sure there are easier ways but us Neanderthals would probably paint (Control/A) the text, hit the copy function (Control/C) and then paste (Control/V) it on to a black page in Word and print that.
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: rusticretreater on November 15, 2021, 11:03:14 AM
Some folks might not have MS Word, so you can use notepad instead as it is on every windows based computer.  You can also use the print dialog and view the pages.  Depending on the browser, some will show you the pages in a scrollable box, others provide a print preview function.  All of them however, allow you to select the pages you will print.  Say you want pages 1 thru 3 and page 5 too.  Select custom and type, 1-3,5 in the pages box and you can eliminate a good part of the fluff.
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: trapper on November 15, 2021, 08:59:32 PM
i copy and paste into open office  open office is free
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: Digger Don on November 16, 2021, 06:19:04 AM
Some web sites have a Print button to click on. I thought I was just overlooking it. I'll try the Copy/Paste idea. Thanks. 
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: Erik A on November 16, 2021, 08:29:06 AM
Great info guys, but what does the OP do with a 20 foot log?

I don't know WMills for what style of rails it has.

1 get an extra extension.

2 I have thought of building short extensions for both sides to let one guide wheel go past the rack end. I could cut an extra 4 feet with the log only on the rack .

3 I read on here about cutting one side then moving the log..... this seems difficult but may work! 
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: jb616 on November 16, 2021, 11:33:43 AM
If I remember correctly, @stephen or @Stephan (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24196) I can't remember his spelling now :)   talked about this at a pig roast. Maybe he can chime in and let you know how he did it. 
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: WV Sawmiller on November 17, 2021, 08:46:46 AM
Quote from: Erik A on November 16, 2021, 08:29:06 AM
Great info guys, but what does the OP do with a 20 foot log?
Erik,

   I suggest he try the technique first listed here on the FF and use or modify it to fit his mill if possible.

Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: DanL on November 17, 2021, 04:21:47 PM
Very good information folks! My question was hypothetical. However, If I have need to saw a log longer than the mill, I have some good methods to try. Thanks again for all of your answers. I am sure that I will have many more questions about band saw milling.

Regards, DanL
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: Erik A on November 18, 2021, 09:43:18 AM
I did not intend on sounding rude... I have thought about this some, and was hoping for more posts of how people accomplished cutting a log part way then moving and lining it up to continue!  
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: trimguy on November 18, 2021, 08:37:20 PM
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/57881/6BB24A2F-CFF4-44B8-9923-84979D16E782.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1637285458)
 All I could find was a couple of pictures of a flitch I cut that was longer than my mill.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/57881/AB46B126-CED0-44B6-82AD-AA555DB564A9.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1637285409)
 
I cut the top as far as I could, and then cut waste off and backed out. I flipped it over and did the other side the length of the mill. Then I slid it back to the last bunk and cut more.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/57881/59AFF0D2-58BF-42D4-84CC-BE97DED3AF71.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1637285747)
 

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/57881/8122F7D1-21FD-49BE-BABF-D36A6BF52929.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1637285789)
 
These are all the pictures I could find, I hope this helps.
Title: Re: log longer than mill
Post by: WV Sawmiller on November 21, 2021, 12:46:27 PM
   BTW - all I have ever seen or read about sawing a log longer than the mill was for a one off situation and if you plan to do it often I'd think an extension for the mill is in order. It always looks to be a time consuming and labor intensive process.