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Title: Trees for coastal property everything I plant dies
Post by: top gnome on April 17, 2022, 02:44:08 PM
Hi
We own property on the bay of fundy and the spruce trees that are growing here are at the end of their life span and toppling like domino's with each big storm we have. three in the month of January. We have lost a dozen large spruce trees.  We tried planting northern white cedar,  pine,  and service berry to try to get some privacy screen and everything we plant dies. I am not sure but I think the sea spray and the salt are killing the plants. We did get a willow to grow and small white spruce transplanted from other areas on the property have about a 50% living rate. Are there other trees /plants that will make a thick screen and not die? thank you
Title: Re: Trees for coastal property everything I plant dies
Post by: Clark on April 17, 2022, 09:01:59 PM
There are a lot of variables and I know nothing of dealing with sea spray but there are several things I do to make sure survival is high.

Plant the smallest tree you can find. Nurseries generally make more $$ off larger trees and people want the "instant" tree. Because it will catch up in size with a large tree and shouldn't have as many root issues you are, long-term, better off with a smaller tree. 

Before you stick the tree in the ground, make sure you address any root issues but let me direct you to this resource:

https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/treecare/residential_plant.html (https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/treecare/residential_plant.html)

This has great information on planting trees and what needs to be done.

Finally, plant either early in spring (now) or late summer (September) and make sure it is well-watered. 

Clark
Title: Re: Trees for coastal property everything I plant dies
Post by: Menagerie-Manor on April 17, 2022, 09:05:12 PM
Wife and I lived in a salt water environment in the northeast for years and the 2 best trees we found were Willows as you noticed and River Birch which thrived even after several hurricanes and salt water flooding. Really liked the River Birch and they were fast growers.
Title: Re: Trees for coastal property everything I plant dies
Post by: Ianab on April 17, 2022, 09:54:24 PM
Having lived on a fairly rough area of coast for a while,,the wind and salt spray can have a  huge effect on that you can grow. Salt spray will simply burn off the leaves / needles of trees that aren't adapted to survive it.  The local trees wouldn't be much use to you as the climate is too different. 

But I would suggest driving around the area and just looking at what's growing there, both naturally and planted. A mile away from the shore is probably a completely different ecosystem and what might grow well there won't thrive closer to the water. 

A good local plant nursery should also be able to advice on particular local options. 

Clark's general advice is good, but the wrong species choice will get burnt bare in the first good onshore storm, not matter how careful you are with planting and caring for it. 
Title: Re: Trees for coastal property everything I plant dies
Post by: top gnome on April 19, 2022, 07:15:48 AM
thank you for all for the replies. the smaller trees do seem to do better. I will review the attachment.  I will look into river birch and get a couple more willows. the cedar looked so good and promising until they were burnt brown over the winter storms. the white spruce seems to grow well so I will transplant more of them. I was hoping bamboo or maybe a really tall grass or some variety of cedar to make a thick cover.  Thank you again for the advice
Title: Re: Trees for coastal property everything I plant dies
Post by: SwampDonkey on April 19, 2022, 03:44:21 PM
White spruce and jack pine will be your most tolerant evergreens to salt spray in NS. Yellow birch and heart-shaped white birch are tolerant, red oak is. Staghorn sumac is tolerant of salt.
Title: Re: Trees for coastal property everything I plant dies
Post by: sawguy21 on April 19, 2022, 07:01:04 PM
Have you checked the soils ph levels? 
Title: Re: Trees for coastal property everything I plant dies
Post by: Ron Scott on April 20, 2022, 12:49:51 PM
Check with your local Conservation District to see if they have a Soils Survey completed for your local area. It should identify the suitable vegetation by ecological land types.