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Title: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Jeff on August 07, 2022, 07:14:17 PM
I left a small patch of buckwheat to grow where I plan on moving my garden too. It is currently dropping seed. Would it be better knock down the parent plansts now so the seed and get back up  through for a fall crop?
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Jeff on August 07, 2022, 07:16:10 PM
Admins, if this topic is in the wrong spot, please move it?  :D  seems like it should be in food
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Don P on August 07, 2022, 07:48:51 PM
It can become kinda invasive if that's what you're asking.
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: newoodguy78 on August 07, 2022, 08:00:32 PM
Are you looking to get a second crop of buckwheat out of it or terminate completely?
If a second crop is your goal completely let it go to seed then disk it or roll it to get seed to soil contact.
If you're trying to terminate it completely you might have missed the window.
For complete termination I'd mow or disk as soon as possible wait till it starts to sprout again then do the same.
I'm a big fan of buckwheat for the very reason it can be tough to eradicate completely once it seeds out....it really likes to keep the ground covered

Don't underestimate it as a deer attraction either. Last fall two of the nicest bucks I've seen in awhile were shot while munching on my buckwheat.
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Jeff on August 07, 2022, 10:29:55 PM
I want a second crop. This is for the soil. No discing here.that is a long slope to the pond. It will always be no til. no worry about being invasive up here Don. First frost its gone
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Southside on August 07, 2022, 11:06:57 PM
Like NW said, let it go to hard seed then run it down with your wheeler or tractor to get good seed to soil contact.  
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: newoodguy78 on August 07, 2022, 11:16:56 PM
The frost will certainly take it out however it's not completely done. A certain amount will come back the following year. Have several fields this year in production that had buckwheat last year that went to seed. Even after being plowed under its showing up in my crops. 
As of now it doesn't present what I feel as a problem. The pollinators love it and I'm not seeing nearly as much (hardly any) ragweed and lambs quarters pressure. Two weeds that are absolutely rampant in this area
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: aigheadish on August 10, 2022, 10:49:25 AM
I've never messed with buckwheat but was told that it's great for the bees. It'd be nice to start some in the back field. Does it need sewn like normal plants or can I just mow a spot and toss some seeds down like grass seed? This field doesn't have much going on. It was hayed but now we mostly just let it go (grow). 
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: newoodguy78 on August 11, 2022, 01:18:42 PM
I've never messed with seeding it as you mentioned. Wouldn't be surprised though if you broadcasted it over the top of closely mowed grass right after a rain and rolled or tracked it in you would get a decent catch. 

I've had a couple of the local beekeepers that I don't even know randomly give me several jars of honey just because they found out it was me planting all the buckwheat around town.  They didn't need to do that yet it was greatly appreciated. 
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: aigheadish on August 11, 2022, 02:11:36 PM
I'll have to figure out where to buy some seed. 

There are a few things I'd like to do in that field and buckwheat is one of them. I'd also like to do some raspberries or fruit trees or something though I don't know how much babysitting any of that takes. The area is not conducive to watering but I'd be willing to water some to get stuff started. If I do any of that it'll become bee and deer food, I'm sure. My buddy had the idea to make a pick-your-own raspberry farm, I like it if I can control it. I don't want people traipsing all over the property. 
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: thecfarm on August 11, 2022, 02:13:53 PM
We sell buckwheat at the hardware store I work at. Kinda pricey stuff.
We sell it by the pound or a 50 pound bag.
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: aigheadish on August 11, 2022, 02:17:47 PM
Shipping will be ridiculous! :)
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Southside on August 11, 2022, 02:20:57 PM
Just ask Ray to bring it out to your car for you.  :D
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: thecfarm on August 11, 2022, 02:25:56 PM
Give an Old Man a break!!  :D 
Your local hardware store should have it. 
We also have store pick up.  :D
We take a credit card over the phone.  ;D
I'm still on light duty, so one of the other guys will bring it to your car.
Not many stores will load it in your car. 
Most stores you are on your own.
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: newoodguy78 on August 11, 2022, 02:41:31 PM
I've heard buckwheat seed is high this year, haven't bought any still working on overstock from last season.

Cfarm do you know what a 50# bag is going for this year?
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: aigheadish on August 11, 2022, 02:54:58 PM
Cramazon looks like around 5ish bucks a pound. 

I'd never seen buckwheat before, it's pretty! Not what it looks like in my pancakes either...
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2022, 02:55:41 PM
Buckwheat is in short supply now I am told. I bought mine back in april, it was $39 for a 50lb bag then.
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2022, 02:57:38 PM
I bought 200lbs of winter rye lasr month, $17 for 50lb
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: aigheadish on August 11, 2022, 03:04:27 PM
So, I'm learning by typing into the the ol' G box but you guys seem smarter than Google. 

If I were to plant some of this in the back field and basically let it go, does it reseed itself or I'd need to replant every year?
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: newoodguy78 on August 11, 2022, 03:07:00 PM
I've heard the same about buckwheat supply. Rye  is ridiculously high this year in our area.
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: newoodguy78 on August 11, 2022, 03:27:37 PM
The plant itself is not frost tolerant at all the seed is not effected nearly as much. The first frost will wipe the plants out and they'll lay down in a mat. If however it's gone to the point of hardseed (usually 45-55 days from planting date in this area) from what I've experienced you will get reestablishment in the spring. 
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: beenthere on August 11, 2022, 03:50:03 PM
Amazon 20# for $3.25/lb
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2022, 04:44:54 PM
Quote from: beenthere on August 11, 2022, 03:50:03 PM
Amazon 20# for $3.25/lb
Yikes!!
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: thecfarm on August 11, 2022, 07:58:39 PM
I can get prices tomorrow. I had today off.
Winter rye will be a lot cheaper.
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: thecfarm on August 12, 2022, 06:40:21 PM
These are both 50# bags.
Winter rye was about $19.
That buckwheat was $139.
Jeff you got a deal!!! I don't think I can bring it into the store for what you paid. 
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: Jeff on August 12, 2022, 07:19:58 PM
I was 17 for rye at the clare elevator, so no middle man. You have 19. Thats pretty close!

I got the buckwheat before the rush
Title: Re: Buckwheat gone to seed?
Post by: newoodguy78 on August 12, 2022, 08:07:12 PM
Wow that buckwheat is high, glad I didn't buy any this year.