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Title: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on September 22, 2022, 09:34:02 PM
Last Thursday the 15th, I had finished sawing for the day and was ready to relax when PatD called telling me that she had probably broken her arm or wrist.  I was 236 miles from home so a 3 hour & 22 minute drive followed.  A grandson carried her to the ER where she was X-Rayed and a cast was placed on her arm.

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Today she had an appointment with an Orthopedic Dr. who made an X-Ray.  The large bone is broken immediately below the wrist, and thankfully it is a clean break and will not require any surgery, etc. 

The cast was replaced with a removable "splint" and she has a return appointment in two weeks.

I have Bushhogging to do tomorrow and Saturday and my plan is to resume sawing Tuesday the 27th.

This past week I have been doing "wommin" stuff.   ::) 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 22, 2022, 09:44:28 PM
Well medically speaking, I am confused. Maybe Doc has time to weigh in on that x-ray. You say there is a clean break in the Ulna proximal to the wrist that is not displaced, but I don't see it in the photo. 
 It all matters not, she is in a good place and it just needs to heal as is, this is great news. I wish her a speedy and painless recovery. That's what matters. You should stick with doing the wimmin stuff until she tells you otherwise.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on September 22, 2022, 10:48:07 PM
The break is not a straight line but I see it as a sorta upside down curve like a weak question mark.  The main thing to me was that it will not require anything other than letting it heal.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: pineywoods on September 22, 2022, 10:59:51 PM
OWWTCH !!! That looks worse than MM's toes..Looks to be the right hand. Gonna be frustrating having to do everything one-handed. :(
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Walnut Beast on September 23, 2022, 03:26:29 AM
You better slowdown a little Magicman and take care of your wife. Be careful you don't get jacked up yourself 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 23, 2022, 08:17:31 AM
Quote from: Magicman on September 22, 2022, 10:48:07 PM
.........  The main thing to me was that it will not require anything other than letting it heal.
Indeed, that is the best part of it. 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Jim_Rogers on September 23, 2022, 11:43:00 AM
Ms PatD get well soon.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: B.C.C. Lapp on September 23, 2022, 11:59:36 AM
Ouch,  that had to hurt. How did she break it?  
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: samandothers on September 23, 2022, 12:28:16 PM
Falling is bad.  Falling with a break is worse.  Falling with a break that is clean and does not require surgery is better.  I hope Pat heals quickly.  If you are doing her chores, she probably hopes the same too!
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doc henderson on September 23, 2022, 01:14:03 PM
It is in the larger radius bone near the end by all the smaller bones.  so the bigger long bone near the end by the hand.  It is not clean but it is non-displaced and I assume not angulated.  so hold it in place, and do not fall on it again till healed.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: SwampDonkey on September 23, 2022, 02:34:16 PM
Ouch! Take care and heal up quickly, PatD. And don't do it again. ;)
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on September 23, 2022, 02:50:09 PM
Wishing Miss Pat a speedy healing and you good luck with your apron on.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doc henderson on September 23, 2022, 04:15:07 PM
yes, I think he has a nice leather apron!   :)  could put a pink bow on it.   8)
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 23, 2022, 06:03:50 PM
Ouch!  No surgery or hard cast is about as good as it gets with broken bones.  I hope she heals quickly.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: samandothers on September 23, 2022, 07:10:34 PM
Quote from: doc henderson on September 23, 2022, 04:15:07 PM
yes, I think he has a nice leather apron!   :)  could put a pink bow on it.   8)
Now there is an image!  
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on September 23, 2022, 08:40:46 PM
Quote from: doc henderson on September 23, 2022, 01:14:03 PMIt is not clean but it is non-displaced and I assume not angulated.
doc, he mentioned something about the far right lower side, and he could have said a bit displaced or angulated. ?? Whatever it was he said would not be a problem.  This is the same Surgeon that fixed my rotator cuff.

What happened?  No I did not say but while I was sawing in the sand box, she was dog sitting a Great Granddaughter's Border Collie.  They were out for a pee break and the dog was on a leash.  A squirrel came down a tree and the dog took off jerking PatD down head first.  It upset the dog which immediately came back and started administering medical attention.  Grandson Ben was the only person available to take her to the ER.  When I got there ~3½ hours later it looked like a family reunion.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: B.C.C. Lapp on September 23, 2022, 08:46:18 PM
"It looked like a family reunion."    Isn't that awesome? smiley_clapping smiley_clapping smiley_clapping
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: thecfarm on September 23, 2022, 09:01:39 PM
I hope she gets better soon.
Brenda has 2 broken ribs.
I just heard her get into bed.  :o   :(
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: gspren on September 24, 2022, 08:42:13 AM
Good luck with the wimmen stuff, a few years ago Kay tripped on a curb going for an eye appointment and broke her elbow so I did a bunch of cooking and laundry for a while. Tell Pat we are thinking of her and hope for a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on September 24, 2022, 06:40:39 PM
Monday morning after my Dr. app't, I will have to change the bed, wash clothes, and clean/scrub the toilets.  That plus fill my empty Diesel jugs.

I will leave on my 236 mile trip to the sand box sawing job at early afternoon.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Bruno of NH on September 24, 2022, 06:55:06 PM
I'm sorry 
I just seen this
Mrs Pat have a speedy recovery 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 17, 2022, 06:22:55 AM
How is she doing?
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on October 17, 2022, 07:05:19 AM
Thanks for asking Peter and she is making a slow but gradual improvement.  She had the splint off last evening and I watched her make a slow examination.  It will be a long time before she regains any substantial use of the arm. 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 17, 2022, 04:54:36 PM
Thanks for the update, MM. We're all sending healing vibes. :)
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 18, 2022, 07:01:25 AM
Good to know, thanks, Slow and easy. smiley_thumbsup 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Ed_K on October 24, 2022, 04:59:36 PM
 MM, how is Mrs Pat doing now? I've just got to health & safety after a long time, so many things going on.

 Hope everything is ok with you also.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on October 24, 2022, 07:01:11 PM
Thanks for asking.  Her recovery is gonna take much longer than either of us expected.  Her next app't with the orthopedic Dr. is Thursday.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doctorb on October 24, 2022, 08:41:11 PM
I think you'll find that she has an accelerated recovery from this point on.  Fracture was in excellent position and they heal pretty quickly.  Has she had a bone density test?
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on November 07, 2022, 08:58:49 PM
Looks like doctorb's prediction is holding true because PatD is making very good improvement.  I am watching her do stuff with her right hand that would have been very painful/impossible a week ago.  :)
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 14, 2022, 05:55:59 PM
Good,  8)
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 14, 2023, 08:41:35 AM
PatD is now 10 months past the accident.  She made progress from the initial trauma but not from the "out of whack" condition with here wrist.  The large "Radius" bone was actually compressed which caused the small "Ulna"bone to be too long which is causing the long term issues.

She met with the Surgeon yesterday who told her that she would never improve and be pain free unless action was taken.  The decision was made to surgically shorten the Ulna which should re-align her wrist.  That will be done on the 21st.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doc henderson on July 14, 2023, 09:30:17 PM
happy birthday.  glad there is a solution for Mrs. Pat, but sorry it involves a surgery.  She is strong.!
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: SwampDonkey on July 15, 2023, 01:13:36 AM
Hoping all goes well.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on July 16, 2023, 12:05:17 PM
hoping for the best of outcomes Lynn
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 18, 2023, 06:22:51 PM
Good luck to her and hope she heals well from the surgery.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 20, 2023, 05:27:47 PM
PatD's surgery appointment is 7:00 tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doc henderson on July 20, 2023, 07:59:38 PM
God Bless and Good Luck!  
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: TroyC on July 20, 2023, 08:51:34 PM
Hope the surgery goes well! Best Wishes!
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 20, 2023, 10:08:07 PM
Thanks Guys.  She is understandably nervous and I will give an update as soon as possible.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: barbender on July 20, 2023, 11:19:06 PM
Prayers from here for PatD, Magic! 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: customsawyer on July 21, 2023, 05:51:28 AM
Give her a hug from me.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Jim_Rogers on July 21, 2023, 09:23:03 AM
Get well soon.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 21, 2023, 02:05:34 PM
Thank You all for the well wishes.  PatD's surgery went very well and we are back at home.  The surgery lasted about an hour and her Ulna (small arm bone) was shortened about 3/8 inch.  I will be the official "cook and bottle washer" for a while.  

I am hopeful that I can saw at least a half day each day next week.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doc henderson on July 21, 2023, 02:42:32 PM
I am glad she did well, now the real test...  your cooking. :snowball:   food3
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 21, 2023, 06:40:48 PM
I partially passed that test this afternoon.  I got bread & crackers and I went to the Deli and got chicken salad and pimento cheese spread.   ;D
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Old Greenhorn on July 21, 2023, 08:13:27 PM
Yeah um, well, my best to Miss Pat, but Lynn, you may have to step that up just a bit. ;D
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: thecfarm on July 22, 2023, 05:05:24 AM
I hope all goes well.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 22, 2023, 08:05:58 AM
Thanks Ray and others.  She is doing well.

Her arm is sore this morning and she is maintaining the 4 hour pain pill schedule as directed.  She has full movement of all of her fingers without any discoloration and very little swelling.  
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: stanwelch on July 22, 2023, 10:21:33 AM
Lynn, take care of that special lady!  Praying recovery continues to go as planned. 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doctorb on July 22, 2023, 10:31:00 PM
Forearm bones don't race to healing, but her arm will improve greatly over the next 4 weeks.  Best of luck with her recovery.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 23, 2023, 08:43:30 AM
She did not like hearing "4 weeks" but that is something that she needed to know.  We all want to "take an aspirin" and be well the next morning.  ::)  Her followup appointment with the surgeon is Thursday.

We are on a 4 hour schedule with her pain med so we are using the alarm at night for the midnight & 4:00 doses.  She had one episode of pain last night, probably caused by a sleep position.  She has good pain free movement of her fingers which are a bit more swollen than yesterday but not puffy swollen.  She is keeping it elevated.

Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Don P on July 23, 2023, 08:57:17 AM
Best wishes and Don't skip the stool softener and liquids!
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 23, 2023, 10:07:58 AM
Yup to both. 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doc henderson on July 23, 2023, 11:21:03 AM
Lynn, I think Don meant for Ms. Pat!   8)   :) :) :)
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doctorb on July 23, 2023, 04:48:34 PM
Magic-

Forearm fractures (which is basically what she now has) are usually stabilized with plate and screws.  These bones are hard cortical bones that don't heal quickly.  The confounding element here is that the plates and screws stabilize the fracture quite well, so that, in a few weeks, it FEELS healed to the patient.  It's not.  Expect to still see the osteotomy (fracture) on X-ray at the 6 week mark.  That's normal.  Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to prevent the patient from doing something strenuous that might alter the fixation. Patients  generally feel like they can do most normal things after a few weeks.  So avoid lifting gallon milk jugs from the fridge until the osteotomy is healed.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: gspren on July 23, 2023, 06:06:57 PM
Best wishes for Pat, and isn't it great to have some caring Docs on here to give advice!
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 23, 2023, 06:58:47 PM
Thanks Gary and yes, it is awesome hearing from doctorb with real time information.  She had been given the milk jug illustration, but it is nice actually reading it and also the why.  Thank You Bobby.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Ron Scott on July 23, 2023, 09:04:55 PM
Hoping that the healing continues well with less pain.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: RetiredTech on July 23, 2023, 10:06:28 PM
Sorry to hear about Ms. Pat's arm. We're praying for a complete and speedy recovery.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 23, 2023, 10:35:00 PM
Thanks Ron and Wes. 

I'll be sawing for at least a half day tomorrow depending upon the heat.  I'll have household stuff to do when I get home so I did change the bed today and got the sheets washed & dried.  I'll have clothes washing to do tomorrow evening.

I made a deli run today for a "to go" plate lunch so I am doing well in the food department.   ;D
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on July 27, 2023, 04:56:41 PM
PatD got what we consider a "good report" at her follow-up surgical visit today.  The X-Ray clearly shows the Ulna now being shorter than the Radius and not in direct contact with the Lunate as it previously was. 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: thecfarm on August 02, 2023, 05:30:49 AM
That sounds good!!!
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Jeff on August 02, 2023, 07:37:37 AM
Im so sorry to not pipe in here. The last 2 weeks ive either been in a backhoe or under one and completely missed this.  Heal quick Mis Pat. Tammy and I love you!!
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on August 02, 2023, 01:53:51 PM
I understand.  She knows that she has an extended recovery time ahead.

I am trying to finish the sawing job that I am on so we can take a bit of a trip, but the logs are multiplying plus it is too HOT to make much productivity.. 
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Don P on August 02, 2023, 03:05:01 PM
A friend should be rolling in right about now. I built 3 sets of stairs up into that cabin, she stepped off the smallest, a 2 step , Friday evening. She had stepped into Bill's oversize slippers to grab the laundry, slipped on a step and badly broke her ankle in 2 places. They should be up in Maine with 2 other couples right now but she is down hard for at least 6 weeks. Its usually the little dumb stuff that gets us. More and more I have to remind myself to slow down and stay focused on the moment.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on August 03, 2023, 06:58:47 PM
Wishing a speedy recovery from the swamp from Linda and I
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on August 03, 2023, 09:38:48 PM
Thank You Pete, and all.  I am trying to finish the sawing job that I am on but it keeps growing.  Two more jobs came in today.  We need to be traveling and enjoying, and now I am dealing with a health issue.  :-X
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on August 24, 2023, 03:39:03 PM
PatD had a followup visit with the surgeon today and he said that her arm is healing nicely.  She is to exercise her wrist and fingers and she still needs to wear the arm splint.  She is scheduled to return in one month.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 24, 2023, 03:57:27 PM
Super news!
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 24, 2023, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: Magicman on August 24, 2023, 03:39:03 PMShe is to exercise her wrist and fingers and she still needs to wear the arm splint.  
Lynn.

   Maybe you need to buy her a milk cow or a herd of milk goats. She can get her therapy and you can get fresh milk. ;)

    Do you think she would appreciate all our attempts to help with her therapy?

    I hope she continues to recover quickly and completely.

Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 25, 2023, 01:16:14 AM
She'll come through, it's just not as easy as it is at 30. I remember my grandmother, she'd jokingly raise that right hand in a fist, bring it close to your nose and say, 'smell your master'. That was her way in telling you that you better behave. :D
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on September 28, 2023, 10:48:21 PM
PatD had a followup visit today with the Surgeon.  He was pleased with her progress and will now allow her to do whatever she wants to do as long as it does not hurt.  She does not need to wear the splint except at her discretion. 

He did explain that an accidental break would heal faster than a sawed off and rejoined bone.  The brain knows what to do with a broken bone, but it is not prepared to deal with a sawed and rejoined bone.  It just takes more time.

She does not go back for two months.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: customsawyer on September 29, 2023, 04:06:36 AM
Great news.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: RetiredTech on September 29, 2023, 06:47:00 AM
  That is great news. You guys have been on my mind lately. I'm glad to hear she's doing so much better.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: thecfarm on September 30, 2023, 08:30:15 AM
Good news it is.
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: hardtailjohn on September 30, 2023, 01:35:26 PM
Good news indeed!! We think of you both often here, and hope you are well!!!

John
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on September 30, 2023, 08:14:22 PM
Thank You John, and tell Kate Hello from us.

It's hard to believe that it has been exactly 9 years since we were at your place:  LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=76518.msg1186097#msg1186097)
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 01, 2023, 06:02:29 AM
I hope she gets back to 100% with the arm, Good luck!!
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Magicman on October 01, 2023, 07:55:35 AM
Thank You Guys for the Well Wishes.  :)
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: doc henderson on October 01, 2023, 09:42:09 AM
have to change the title to her fixed arm!   ;)   :)
Title: Re: PatD's Broken Arm
Post by: Ron Scott on October 01, 2023, 07:37:49 PM
Well done!