If you didn't see in the "Did Something Dumb" I got scammed by a guy on a Woodmizer FB page on a sharpener. Needless to say I spent the money, but didn't receive a sharpener. I still need a sharpener. I should have just ordered it new in the first place. Oh well. I ordered a new one yesterday. I'm hopeful that I will receive it within a month and can get to sharpening some blades. I will need to get a setter too. I figure I can safely go one sharpening without setting and then I will have the setter. I reported the scam to WM so they know someone is using their products as the bait for scams.
That sucks! How did you pay the scammer? I ask because I got scammed once, and I'm 100% sure it was a scam. It was a fake gofundme for a logging family that had a child with cancer. When I figured out I'd been had for $100, I remembered that it used PayPal so I lodged a complaint. I wasn't expecting to get my money back, I just wanted to get their account shut down for fraud. Shockingly to me, they refunded my money (the scammer, not PayPal). Best I can figure, they have a lucrative scam going and don't want to lose their account so they refund the money when people complain- so they can go on to scam more people🤦♂️
I find I can get 3 sharpenings before I need to set. If you time it right😁 when you get to winter if you are in frozen wood you may never need to set because you don't need as much for frozen wood.
I've been running a lot of .050 and .055 blades, they typically only make it 3 sharpenings anyways so they never see the setter. Unless I want to up-set them for spruce or something. Good luck!
Paid with my online banking direct pay. Should not have done that, but he had already "shipped" the sharpener and I felt compelled to get my part done. No way to get that money back. Water under the bridge now.
Sorry to hear that, lessons learned.
I go to pains to only use PayPal. They're security is top notch, I've never had any stolen CC info since I started using them probably 8 years ago. And it gives you a point of leverage with bad actors. This was after being victim to MANY instances of CC fraud when dealing with legitimate businesses (Bailey's and Oakley sunglasses for 2 examples) where security was breached and my info was stolen.
Wow, that is too bad. Sorry to hear that.
Watching with interest, let us know how this sharpener works out. popcorn_smiley
I definitely want to get my own sharpener in the future, having a good supply of sharp blades makes one change more often and cut better lumber. "It may not be dull, but it's no longer sharp." - to quote Mr. Magic Man
And for when customers brings me the "Oh, there's no nails in them" logs... ZING! :D
Absolutely, except on the zingers...I find I can put a lot of time into nail strike blades and they still leave a bad finish. The body of the blade usually gets bent and stressed. About all they are good for is to have on hand for when you know you have nail imbedded logs to cut.
Sorry to hear about the scam, that's Just plain irritating! I got took for $400 through PayPal about 15 years ago when someone paid me with a stolen card. Long story with a lesson well learned.
Thanks guys. I'd never been scammed before and it makes you feel dumb. I will be very careful from now on. I will never use my bank account direct bill pay again. Everything will be thru venmo or paypal with buyer protection turned on. I will let you all know how this sharpener works. I need to get some milling done to get some lumber drying. I've been too busy with other things the last several months. I sawed a lot of cedar this summer, but almost no hardwoods. I'm not going to sharpen any of the 4 deg blades that I have so I need to ID those. I will start with 10 deg blades. I have some 7 deg kasco that are almost identical to turbo 7 so I think I will be able to grind those. May take 2 times around to get it done. Then I will probably just buy turbos from WM after that.
What do you know? I ordered a sharpener from WM instead of a scammer and I have a legitimate UPS tracking # instead of a tracking # from a bogus "shipping agency" that doesn't exist.
UPS says it will be here on Friday. Not sure I'll have any time to sharpen blades before I go to work on Saturday.
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Right. One of the reasons I went for the scammer and didn't order one sooner was that I assumed it would be months before I could get a new one. When I called the MO dealer, he told me that WM had 9 in stock so I went ahead and ordered.
Should have known the sharpener wouldn't come so quick. Got an updated notice from WM. They have shipped the extra grinding wheel and the cam kit for 7deg blades, but not the actual sharpener. Oh well.
I received the grinding wheels and cam today. I also got another notice from WM that the sharpener shipped today, so I assume I will have it early next week.
I ordered blades (they were on sale ;D) Monday from Indy, and had them in my sawdust covered glove hands Thursday morning. UPS is good with the tracking, I took delivery and instantly they updated it to day and time delivered. smiley_thumbsup
The good news is that the sharpener came today. The bad news is that I am at work and won't be home til Tuesday morning. At least it came and within a week of ordering it.
I put the sharpener together and messed around with it a few days ago. After talking to WM customer service we determined that the shaft on the motor for the grinder is bent. It was causing a shake and the wheel would only contact the blade as it went around to one side and then it would lose contact. They are sending me a new sharpener and have emailed me a return shipping label.
Well, that's a bummer, but at least they are taking care of it.
Yeah, I was happy the guy didn't do a bunch of troubleshooting that I knew wasn't gonna help.
I received my replacement sharpener several days ago, but didn't have any time to mess with it til today. It is in much better shape than the original and I feel like I did a decent job of sharpening a blade today. I sent it around twice. The first time it got the face of the tooth and just the tip of the back of the tooth. After that I dressed the wheel a little more and lowered the grinder head just a bit. On the second time around, it got almost all of the gullet and all the way up the back side of the tooth. I did some damage to this blade when I was setting up the first sharpener, so I was happy with how it looked when I was done. I will put it on the mill the next time I saw.
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I sharpened a few blades this afternoon. I'm starting to get a hang of this I think. I feel like i'm noticing things that the guy before me maybe didn't do a good job with. The blade I just did last had a bad spot where a tooth tip was chipped off. I assume that happened while I was sawing. I sent it around 3 times and got it down to where the tooth was sharp again. I'm not sure it was worth the time, but it gave me good practice. I think I was told by someone at some point that 9/10" at the low point of the gullet was about the life of a blade, so I'm going to go with it. I will measure before sharpening and ones that are less than that will be scrapped. Some of my dulled blades have been sitting in the shed I've been building. Clearly that wasn't a great idea as they have developed some surface rust. I need to finish the shed and get it closed in. I had forgotten where they were for a while.
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Watching to see how good they make sawdust... ???
I sharpened the remaining 10deg blades I have and then was going to put the 7deg cam on the sharpener. I realized that I bought the 7/39.5 instead of the 7/34. I have 7/34 Kasco blades. They are a perfect match for the WM ones, but without the correct cam, I won't be sharpening anything. I supposed I could put the blade on an just kiss the front of the tooth for one sharpening, but I'm not in that big of a hurry, so I will wait til the correct cam comes. I'm hoping WM will just exchange it for me and I will send the other one back to them.
I have a few 4deg blades, but I am not going to buy anymore. I figured out I could put the blade on with the 10deg cam and just kiss the front of the tooth and then get a little gring on the deepest part of the gullet. I send it around a second time and it is pretty much a 10deg blade now. After I sharpen it again after use, it will be a full 10deg profile blade.
What fluid are you using?
The BMS25 is a dry grinder with a grinding wheel that has to be shaped to match the angle of the blade using a stone.
I thought you were talking about the BMS250, and had left off the "zero." :D :D
I looked it up, I see now!
On my Cooks, the cam was only half the profile following strategy, the grind rock was the other half. Once I got or bought the correct cam I would tailer the rock profile to get everything to match up, then I would get a piece of thick plastic card stock or similar, and press it into the rock and burn the correct profile into the plastic. That way I always had a template to get an exact profile on the rock.
I got the 25 instead of the 250 because I left a zero off the price tag. :D ;D
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I understand! Main thing is you'll never have to rely on someone else to keep your bands razor sharp!
Yes sir, its nice to be able to keep them sharp for myself. I called WM this morning and they are being very helpful as usual in my experience. They are sending me out the 7/34 cam. I offered to send the 7/39 back to them and they said don't worry about it. I'm gonna go out and at least mill one log today and see if I did any good at sharpening. I feel like I was getting better at it as I went, so my first ones may not be as good. I'm also looking into the setters so I can get one ordered soon. I may go with the cooks cat claw.
Remember that the tooth corners need to be razor sharp and fully formed. Just the tooth tip being ground isn't a sharp tooth. I had several posts with pictures in the archives.
If you only hit the face, they will usually saw ok. If you want YH professional level feed rates, it has to get the back of the tooth, too, so that you have nice square chisel corners on your teeth.
I may have been guilty of that...not getting the whole tooth, especially on the ones that I re-ground from 4deg to 10deg. I just milled a big cedar log with a 10deg that I sharpened yesterday. It seemed to do pretty well. It cut flat, but there were some inconsistent blade marks which I assume were because I did not re-set the teeth. I will order the setter soon.
Has the blade in question been sharpened and/or set before? I'm still on the factory sharpening for the balance of my blades and those ready to be sharpened either won't need to be set at all or might not be worth fussing with due to crashing into the back stops. The second one barely skated off the top of the second back stop and still cut well, but not very straight as it knocked most or all of the set out of the bottom angled teeth.
I'm sure it has. This is one of my Woodmizer 10deg blades which I have not bought new ones in a few years, so it has likely been sharpened at least twice. I think you could look at the teeth and see if one is damaged badly. I usually sent my nail strike blades in for sharpening. I don't know for sure which ones came back to me and which were replaced with new ones. Ones that hit more substantial metal I just threw in the bottom of my outdoor cabinet.
I never send any foreign object hit blade to ReSharp. Reason; the chances are very good that even though they may saw very well, they may also leave some irregular blade marks which is unacceptable to me.
I charge the customer for the strike and fling them on my damaged blade pile.
Lynn, that's a good policy to have for quality control and you're not out anything since the customer paid for the blade.