I have set the dates for this years sawing project for April 14th and 15th. There will be some quartersawing in memory of WDH and we can demo about anything else members want to see. We can discuss sawing, drying, sharpening, and whatever else folks want on Fri. with a lunch thrown in and then hamburgers and hotdogs that evening with hopefully a little bonfire, weather permitting. Saturday we will find something to quartersaw for Danny and have another good lunch. That evening will be leftovers and another fire with all of the associated standing around and talking. The address for this is
1607 Capps Browning Rd.
Rentz, GA.
There is lots of motels at the intersection of hwy 441/319 and I16 for those that need it. There is room in the yard for a few campers or there are also campgrounds in the area.
If you want to bring something to the lunch on Sat mention it here so we don't have lots of folks bringing the same thing. Like before there will be a donation can for those that just want to pitch in that way. Lets try to keep a head count going so we have an idea on how many are coming. Me and mine will be 2 making a total of 2 so far. I ask that this not be mentioned on Facebook as there would be no way of knowing how many would be coming. Looking forward to seeing all of my friends.
Up a little early son? We will be there and proud to be #3 and #4. What? too soon? :D :D :D
so, Bryan and Georgia Henderson. or Mr. and Mrs. Doc Henderson.
We will be there.
Lucas and Kristin Hager
5 and 6.
I will report back later with what we will bring.
As of today my wife and I are planning on being there.
Gerald & Mike
GAB
7 & 8
I'll take the winter front off the truck and check out the ac before we leave.
Andries and Teea, for numbers 9 and 10.
It is my intention to be there. 11.
mh
18 hour drive
I want to go
But my knees might not make it that long in the truck
Would bringing youngins be ill advised? At any given point in time one of my boys is showing at least a little interest in what the heck I'm doing in the back yard, more interest could turn into more help and there's no such thing as too much help.
PatD and I have it on our calendar but no commitment yet. :)
12 & 13 (Lance & Debbie)
and a truck camper spot if available...thx
14 and 15. John (Jmoore) and I will be there, God willing, and the creek don't rise. As we approach the event date, I'll sign up to bring some things. Jake, thank you for hosting.
BBY I have no problem with folks bringing their children. Just keep in mind they understand staying safe and the fact that they might sneak up behind a group of men talking that don't know they are there and hear some colorful language. It doesn't happen much but it is a possibility.
Almost certainly wouldn't be both, if we can make it work out at all. If it's my 10 year old, he's very safety conscious and quite capable when it comes to helping under specific directives, it just needs to capture his interest. He and his older brother go to public school and ride the school bus, if they know their mother and I aren't within earshot, they could make a sailor blush.
Talked it over with the wife this afternoon. We will be 16 and 17. About a 5 hour drive, so not bad. Recommendation for a good campground would be appreciated
Unfortunately, The Doctor and I will be traveling to the Northeast in April. I hate to miss it because we had such a good time last year.
We stayed at Honeysuckle Farm RV Park in Dublin. Nothing fancy, just a place to stay.
Don't need fancy. Just a place to plug in the camper.😁
I'm planning to be there along with Hamajama. This will be our first. Obviously will have mixed emotions but looking forward to it! 18 and 19.
I'm planning on it, 20.
Martha and I am gonna hold out and get the 100 and 101 spot!!
Of course we are coming, but I've got to start causing trouble now. :D :D :D
Quote from: YellowHammer on January 04, 2023, 12:21:46 PM
Martha and I am gonna hold out and get the 100 and 101 spot!!
Of course we are coming, but I've got to start causing trouble now. :D :D :D
Robert:
How many times have you been told to act your age and not cause trouble?
Oh, you've never been this old before.
That explains a lot.
GAB
Count me in!!! Here's the list so far:
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Thanks Mossy. I still remember having lunch and meeting you at the first project I went to.
Jake, I'm planning to attend - hopefully ride the Harley down - weather permitting.
Nancy and I will attend.
I have been wanting to attend for a few years now. Maple Syrup season is just ending for us up here and I can always do clean up when we get home. 8)
Cathy and I make 27 + 28
I'm not missing out on this again!!!
Count Jill and me in at 29&30
DblTreeBelgians smiley_horserider
Brent & Jill
Rawson, Ohio
Me and Jennifer will be making the trip again this year hope it's warmer less windy, we have enough wind in Oklahoma. Except this time we are flying in not driving. 31 and 32.
Been doing a little talking with Caveman behind the scenes. He has come up with a great idea of having a wood/drendo ID class on Friday. So if any of you have a piece of wood that you would like to bring that would be great. I think this would be a great way to honor Danny. I can hear ole big words sitting on the roller table telling us all why we are wrong. :D
Quote from: okmulch on January 05, 2023, 06:17:21 PMwe have enough wind in Oklahoma.
You aint seen wind until you've seen what Jake puts out.:D
Amazing response.
Put me as tentative, sounds like a good time and learning opportunity.
Coming from Apopka, FL
I am driving from Manning, South Carolina. 34 if @WDLF makes it. I can bring anything or do anything needed to help.
Joy and I will make 35 & 36.
Wish I could! Just a little too far to take the road and too much $$$ to fly :(
Attendees List Update!!!
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Howard and Becky Green (WV Sawmiller) 37 & 38. Hinton WV.
I will likely contact some of you later about which hotels you are staying at and do the same.
BTW if any of the wives are into Quilting or Photography Becky may bend their ears about both topics.
Georgia is into (getting into) quilting.
My wife, not the whole state! :)
I'll be there. #39?
Jake, I have a huge Osage Orange log that's too heavy for the Kubota to lift. I've had it for years. I believe it's only about 8 feet long. It is dry and it is HARD. But it would make some pretty slabs using your dedicated slabber. That is, if you're not scared :D. It may be too much for you.
And now I am cringing as I prepare for a blistering response. smiley_ignore :D :D
Actually #39 & #40. Me plus one.
Quote from: Deese on January 20, 2023, 02:35:15 PM. . That is, if you're not scared :D. It may be too much for you.
And now I am cringing as I prepare for a blistering response. smiley_ignore :D :D
Nah Deese, Jake thrives on that type of motivation.
You've hit two outta five buttons, I'm guessing . . . 😂
If you're man enough to bring it I will saw it. There was some that thought we should cut something easier than the pecan we did last year. However we got that one done.
I believe I'm #41, but don't quote me on that. (I definitely be there, but the my actual number in the lineup is iffy.)
Dick and Jane and Danielle will be#42,43,44.
Now if I can just figure out how to get around Atlanta.
I have reservations at the Hampton inn. Not the cheapest but in my limited travels have always found them to be clean and friendly.
Planned route is 15 - 81 - 77 - 20. It will just be me in the car so if anyone wants to share fuel costs I would be willing to share the ride. Driving on Thursday, return Sunday.
mh
Quote from: Cedarman on January 23, 2023, 06:48:34 AM
Dick and Jane and Danielle will be#42,43,44.
Now if I can just figure out how to get around Atlanta.
To the vehicle you will be driving apply some STUDENT DRIVER stickers.
The dentier and rustier the vehicle, the better.
Hope to see you there.
GAB
What time do the events start on the first day? I need to know whether to come the night before or whether driving from Charlotte that morning would be pushing it.
We will start around 9:00 on Friday giving some that are still traveling a little more time to get here. Saturday we will start around 8:00 as folks are here already. Lots of folks show up on Thursday afternoon and pitch in putting the finishing touches on everything that I haven't gotten to. Some get here early on each of the other days to help getting things set up that are needed. We aren't very regimented. If something takes a little longer to get finished then it does. If we get done early then there is more time for questions and such. One of the things that is good about this is if someone is having trouble grasping something then there is no reason we can't slow down until everyone gets it. Other times they get with the instructor latter in the day or at lunch and corner them until they get it. Some of the best sharing is around the table, bon fires, or on the porch.
Updated Attendees List!
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I'll make #45.
I will also be glad to bring plates, cups, or whatever items needed.
I'll be making the trip this year for first time. Gonna bring my guys with me. So we will be
#46,47,48 49.
Lee mcclure
Canton,ga
Lee we look forward to meeting you. When you say your "guys" are you referring to your family or employs?
Jake
Sadly this year I will not be able to make it, I'm just too tied up here to get away. I hope everyone has a good time and learns something.
Quote from: customsawyer on February 16, 2023, 06:06:51 AM
Lee we look forward to meeting you. When you say your "guys" are you referring to your family or employs?
My employees.
This isn't designed to teach an entire crew. It is more of a teach the teacher type of thing. We teach and share with you and then you take that knowledge and teach your guys.
Well K-guy, glad you are tied up. say hi to your wife, and be nice so she will eventually untie you! :D :D :D always is nice to see you when you can make it.
I have been wanting to attend for a few years now. My mill has just over 30 hours on it, so maybe I can learn something to get things going.
I will be bringing my wife. This should make #50/51. We will be driving from Freeport, Michigan. Looking forward to meeting everyone!
We need to get away for once... this should be fun!
Will and Julie Houghmaster
Looking forward to meeting you and yours.
After speaking with Lynn I'm committed to making the 3500 mile journey NEXT year! Wish I could this year but it just won't work!
Enjoy and I looking forward to NEXT year!
Quote from: customsawyer on February 20, 2023, 04:38:54 AM
This isn't designed to teach an entire crew. It is more of a teach the teacher type of thing. We teach and share with you and then you take that knowledge and teach your guys.
Sometimes I feel that employees are like little children. When they hear it from a stranger it carries more weight than if it comes from parents or people that they are constantly around.
GAB
Don't ever count on a next year for these type of things. If I would of waited until next year, last year I would not of had my last precious visits with Danny.
Quote from: GAB on February 28, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
Sometimes I feel that employees are like little children. When they hear it from a stranger it carries more weight than if it comes from parents or people that they are constantly around.
GAB
I want to comment on this, but wont. We are all lucky Jake gives any of us an opportunity to come and learn from each other and I appreciate it.
True! But sadly 3500 miles is just a tad far for me this year.
Quote from: Jeff on February 28, 2023, 09:57:44 AM
Don't ever count on a next year for these type of things. If I would of waited until next year, last year I would not of had my last precious visits with Danny.
I got to try and figure something out how to make this work.
You never know when this could end.
I got a kick in the butt coming :D
Hey Bruno. I had been thinking about you the past two days and was about to PM magic to be sure you were doing ok. Would love to meet you someday. Glad to hear from you. I saw the raised beds that you have had good success with and it reminded me of you. Cheers!
Looking forward to this event and meeting you all. Just let me know how I can help - I'm happy to bring my smoker and some boston butts and make pulled pork sandwiches, and happy to help run the grill if you all just want burgers and dogs. Or I'll contribute cash to whatever the plan is...
Doc
I'm doing well
Trying to keep my head up and pushing myself to keep moving.
I have my day but try to keep smiling
Believe it or not it helps :)
Bruno, there are a whole lot of folks that I'm looking forward to meeting, and you sure on that list! I hope that things work out for you to attend.
Scott
Magicman and PatD will add our names to the list.
Lynn & Pat makes 52 & 53.
Lynn,
Wear your leather welder's apron so we will all know who you are. :D
I will probably be the one in the body cast.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on March 01, 2023, 08:20:33 AM
Wear your leather welder's apron so we will all know who you are. :D
I will probably be the one in the body cast.
Howard, he won't need that apron. You will recognize him easy, trust me. In fact when I first met him and Pat, they wandered into our campsite the evening before the pig roast and I knew who he was before he even got close.
As for your body cast, make sure they don't forget to put the drain holes in. ;D :D
Dang it! I guess I'd missed the part about this likely being the last of these :( I've wanted to try to make one for a LONG time now but being way out west with Crossroads and others it's, well, a long way. I just figured, like many I suppose, that I'd make it 'one day'.
Now I'm sorry I didn't try to make plans when Jake first posted this.
I have been following and do not see a post saying it is the last. I think the sentiment was you never know who will make it to the next. Danny (WDH) is a case in point. Please someone correct me if I missed something.
from Jeff, "Don't ever count on a next year for these type of things. If I would of waited until next year, last year I would not of had my last precious visits with Danny."
Correct doc. Jeff said that we can never count on "next year".
We never know. Waiting until next year might be a year too late.
I may not be there in person, but some of my homemade bacon left Idaho today headed that way. Now we just need to see if any of it makes it past Ohio.....
If any are looking into flying in, you might want to check ticket prices to Savannah. Sometimes it is cheaper than Atlanta. My place is pretty much 2 hours from both. Every year when I'm putting in all of the work to get things ready for the project, I tell myself this will be the last one. Then during and after the project I have so much fun and learn so much, I start looking forward to next year. I have often thought of passing the torch and letting someone else host the project, so we could see how someone else does it. One of the big advantages I have is having everything from planers, kiln, sharpening equipment, close by hotels and an interstate that isn't far from my place. This lets folks see just about any part of the process they might be interested in learning about. Not trying to say my place is better than anyone else's. I know for a fact that I'm looking forward to seeing my friends and spending time with them. One of the things we are falling short of this year is our band for the porch on Friday evening. Open to suggestions on that one. I do have a radio. ;D
Attendee Update!!!
| | 2023 SAWING PROJECT IN HONOR OF WDH | | | | |
| No. | Handle | Name | Location | Vittles, Supplies, Other |
| 1 | customsawyer | Jake | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 2 | customsawyer | Tammy | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 3 | doc henderson | Bryan | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 4 | doc henderson | Georgia | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 5 | boardmaker | Lucas | Southeast | MO | |
| 6 | boardmaker | Kristin | Southeast | MO | |
| 7 | GAB | Mike | Charlotte | VT | |
| 8 | GAB | Gerald | Charlotte | VT | |
| 9 | Andries | Andries | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 10 | Andries | Teea | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 11 | moosehunter | Mike | Newfield | NY | |
| 12 | E-Tex | Lance | Bullard | TX | |
| 13 | E-Tex | | Bullard | TX | |
| 14 | caveman | Kyle | Lakeland | FL | |
| 15 | caveman | John | Lakeland | FL | |
| 16 | Patrick NC | Patrick?? | Casar | NC | |
| 17 | Patrick NC | | Casar | NC | |
| 18 | RefHawk | | Ellijay | GA | |
| 19 | RefHawk | Hamajama | Ellijay | GA | |
| 20 | TroyC | | Central | GA | |
| 21 | YellowHammer | Robert | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 100" |
| 22 | YellowHammer | Martha | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 101" |
| 23 | Mossy Chariot | Tony | Knoxville | TN | |
| 24 | scsmith42 | Scott | New Hill | NC | |
| 25 | Sixacresand | John | Gordon | GA | |
| 26 | Sixacresand | Nancy | Gordon | GA | |
| 27 | Stephen1 | Steve | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 28 | Stephen1 | Cathy | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 29 | DbltreeBelgians | Brent | Rawson | OH | |
| 30 | DbltreeBelgians | Jill | Rawson | OH | |
| 31 | okmulch | | Stillwater | OK | |
| 32 | okmulch | Jennifer | Stillwater | OK | |
| 33 | WDFL | | Apopka | FL | Tentative |
| 34 | fishpharmer | James | Manning | SC | |
| 35 | trimguy | Arnie | Augusta | GA | |
| 36 | trimguy | Joy | Augusta | GA | |
| 37 | WV Sawmiller | Howard | Hinton | WV | |
| 38 | WV Sawmiller | Becky | Hinton | WV | |
| 39 | Deese | Frank | Grady | AL | |
| 40 | Deese | +1 | Grady | AL | |
| 41 | Nomad | Bill | Jacksonville | FL | |
| 42 | Cedarman | Dick | Marengo | IN | |
| 43 | Cedarman | Jane | Marengo | IN | |
| 44 | Cedarman | Danielle | Marengo | IN | |
| 45 | RichTired | Richard | Jefferson Co. | AL | |
| 46 | Leemcclure55 | Lee | Canton | GA | |
| 47 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 48 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 49 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 50 | will49766 | Will | Freeport | MI | |
| 51 | will49766 | Julie | Freeport | MI | |
| 52 | Magicman | Lynn | Brookhaven | MS | |
| 53 | Magicman | Pat | Brookhaven | MS | |
Please add Tom and Kathi from Holyoke Mn
Fluidpower I'm glad you are coming. I want to pick your brain on how my extended mill hydraulics are hooked up. I've been told it isn't supposed to work the way I have it but it does.
Quote from: customsawyer on March 03, 2023, 04:23:15 AM
Fluidpower I'm glad you are coming. I want to pick your brain on how my extended mill hydraulics are hooked up. I've been told it isn't supposed to work the way I have it but it does.
I'd like to listen in on that conversation if it's ok. At some point I've been thinking about installing a secondary hydraulic source on the Baker for the feed and lift arm hydraulics. I'd like to modify it so that it throttles up and down the way that the Woodmizers do in and out of the cut, but that means that I'll lose most of my hyd volume when it's throttled down.
Y'all include me in the listening part of that conversation, and I'll fetch refreshments.
I look forward to meeting everyone and certainly will try to help in any way I can. It will be the least I can do considering how much I have learned from everyone else.
QuoteOne of the things we are falling short of this year is our band for the porch on Friday evening.
??? ??? ???
If I could make it down I'd bring my guitar... smiley_guitarist
I never been to Jake's place, and would be nice to be there in honor of Danny (best bass player I ever played with). I'm looking into if I could make the 1200 mile trip happen, so I'm "maybe" for attending right now.
Add me to the list.
I will bring my Dobro, but I need a few beers to play, you all may need a few to listen. I was told once, "there is no such thing as a good Dobro player"! I like Ol brother Oswald. the guy in the Petersons from Branson is great. if you like gospel and dobro listen on You Tube. Ellen did some sound tracts on the movie frozen. nice family band. She married a Haygood another family group. @Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)
Blue - The Petersens (LIVE) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcDFQYkoTnQ)
It's Over - The Petersens Original (LIVE) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQpK09EFMaA)
Amazing Grace - The Petersens (LIVE) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7M8_8NO2zQ)
Emmet is the Dobro player and the only non family member. no that is not what is sounds like when I play. Of course, Danny cannot be replaced.
Quote from: doc henderson on March 05, 2023, 08:55:23 PMOf course, Danny cannot be replaced.
Danny also had a Stand Up/Up Right Bass Guitar standing in the the corner of his living room. It was a beautiful instrument.
That singer is drop-dead gorgeous, sings nice too. :o ;)
Not to destroy the mood here, but add me to the list. 😊
Doc,You don't want to be like the piccolo player :laugh:
was regular or base piccolo? :) is this a joke? ok what about the piccolo player?
I figured everyone had heard the piccolo player joke but maybe not.Might just be a WV thing. :laugh:
:snowball: :o ::) :) :D. I can imagine, but will not venture a guess.!
Doc
Ask me to tell it to you next time we meet.
FYI
It is not for kids to hear.
not my first rodeo either! look forward to it. thx.
Yesterday I found an hour of project porch music video clips, mostly never seen, in fact, the 2019 clips, I had no recall of taking. Im in the process of just putting them all together and uploading, without any editing beyond a title. They sure make me miss Danny.
Ill try to get a link to it yet today.
Also, I'm trying to get there this year, just not sure yet, but if I can make it happen, I'll be there.
The Custom Sawyer's Sawmill Project. Music from the Porch in Georgia. The Lost tapes. - YouTube (https://youtu.be/Yv7k7SBkFfM)
Mighty fine! Thanks Jeff for putting that together! smiley_thumbsup
Jeff made it happen!! 8)
Add Jeff Brokaw and Stan Welch #59 and #60 (I think # is correct)
I am looking forward to seeing both of you. 8)
#51 and #62. I expect that my wife Barbara and I (and dog Lacey) will arrive on the 13th in our RV for two nights. See you then. Gene
glad to see you're coming Gene. see you there.
I've said it before several times. One of the greatest assets of this forum is that it opens to mind to possibilities never previously considered (for those who are open to such thoughts anyway). Sometimes choices we had never considered get presented by the folks here in a way that makes it worth considering, and by extension turns into something very worthwhile, helpful, and educational.
I have been wanting to get to a project since I have joined this forum, but as others have bemoaned, the cost is fairly high, and for me traveling alone, it's just a bit out of reach. Every year I suffer a little when I read the posts of everyone signing up and enjoy the videos during and after the event, but frankly, feel a little sorry for myself because I missed out...again.
Well all that is to just say ADD ME TO THE LIST, I AM COMING! That makes me either number 61 or 63 depending on who is counting. ;D
TerrificTimbersLLC and I will be taking separate flights from the northeast and landing in Atlanta within 1 minute of each other (hopefully, as Dennis observed, on separate runways). Then I will share Dennis's ride and we should check in at the hotel Thursday night.
I am very much looking forward to meeting old friends and meeting ones I always had wanted to. I am sorry I will never get to meet Danny, but the thought of being at this one where he will no doubt be a topic of conversation, good stories and some good learning is something I did not want to miss. It will also be nice to finally meet Howard and try to teach him the difference between purple and brown and my list goes on and on.
Yea!!! 8)
OG:
Please don't chew on Howard too badly as I'd like to gnaw on him also.
GAB
Nah! I ain't gonna chew up on nobody. This is my happy place. I just wanna see if I can learn him up on his colors and he can learn me up on the marsupial spiders indigenous to the lower right corner of south Africa during the non-rainy season of odd years. We all have knowledge to share with each other. :D :D
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on March 16, 2023, 08:50:01 PMWe all have knowledge to share with each other. :D :D
Some of it imbedded pretty deep compliments of mother nature.
Mother nature does not allow drop outs, drop ins yes.
GAB
I am a new member to the Forestry Forum, but have read many post in the past and feel like I know many of you. Thanks to Jake for putting this event on I think it is really great that there is an event like this that brings many of the members together for fellowship and a great learning opportunity.
I also would like to thank some of the members that have brought there camera's to the event last year and posted video's on youtube. Because of you all, I was able to get a good sense of what this event is like and in a small way take part in the festivities.
From my past experiences I think sawyers are some of the finest people I know, usually always ready to lend a hand and wiling to share there knowledge. I think the members on this forum exemplify this, that was clear to see from the video's of the event last year.
I hope some day I make the drive from Canada to attend this event and get a chance to meet some of you fine folks.
Kind and insightful words and a great first post. Welcome to the FF and I hope we get to hear more about what you are up to, learn what you might have to share, and someday even spend some time visiting with you. Welcome aboard!
Tom,
Great news. Do I need to bring a pre-drilled bench top with legs and install them and cut them to length on Jake's mill to show you and Doc how it is done? ;) :D
Well if you can get Jake's ok to fit it in an already very loaded schedule I would be happy to see how you do that. No need to glue the legs, just bring a nearly finished bench. Doc and I have been having fun with you for a while on this. Maybe it's time you showed us the 'error of our ways". Besides I love a good show. ;D ;D :D :D
Heck I'll let y'all take over the project and I'll sit on the porch and drink coffee. :D
Great to hear that more are going to be able to make it. Looking forward to seeing everyone. I did get in a new BMS250 sharpener and hope to have it up and running to give a little demo of it along with a deeper discussion on blades, sharpening and setting.
I'm sure looking forward to the project, seeing old friends and meeting some familiar FF members for the first time.
Jake, do you still have your other WM sharpener? I'll be paying special attention to the sharpening tutorial this time. If Earl ever decides to quit sharpening our bands, we'll be buying one. If we had a sharpener, I'd probably tried to save a few of the 5-6 we hit metal with during Tuesday's sawing session.
I dunno Jake, if Howard's gonna do a leg leveling demo, I would think you'd wanna watch that rather than set on the porch. You can help us find the pieces. ;D :D
Based on posts going back over the last 4 months, I would think the sharpening session will draw a lot of attention and input. Those things are like having another kid. ;D
If the agenda isnt already full, a "What Up Benches" benchmaking tutorial by attendees established by authorship to be proficient in these skills would be very appropriate. 8)
I would like to see 1-1/2 tenon cutter driven by the 3/4" chuck milwaukee drill make tenons with and without the sliding drill holder gizmo. And the leveling of a 6-8 leg bench on a sawmill. Perhaps a new record for the longest bench ever made, could be achieved too. :)
Of course only those posting in that thread, who are driving, would be the instructors. Those flying cannot bring that equipment on the plane. Mr. Greenhorn may be able to supervise the emergency staff.
I will back him up. smiley_fireman_hat smiley_sick smiley_curtain_peek we are planning on driving with a camper and can bring stuff. I always defer to Jake for content, but I am always happy to chime in, or turn off blower fans, what ever Jake tells me to do or not to do. If time is short from work, or I end up coming myself only, might fly. I can always supervise Howard, and tell him what he is doing wrong.
I wonder if Jeff or other admins, may want to do a brief overview of some functions of the forum and some commonly misunderstood rules. I want to know how to better sort my pictures into files. these things could also be done offline, and most are there to saw some wood. with Jakes ling mill, we could try to make the largest bench in the state. 50 feet? 8)
time spent on Kilns, lots of threads lately. what type, what size?
I think Jeff thinks that there are far more important things to discuss, like air fryers and puppies than web anything.
My only minor regret is that we are flying, rather than driving. The 15-16 hour drive would just take an extra day+ on each end and it's the busy time of the year for me. If I drove the truck down I could bring some goodies to share with friends and maybe bring home a chunk of wood that I can't get up here to make something with.
But that doesn't matter really, the important thing is I will be there, rather than reading about it later and watching videos. Last time that tore me up.
Where else can you find a group of like minded folks from all over the country with combined centuries of experience to share and different skills sets coming together in an open minded group knowledge exchange? I just wish I had the brain that could take it all in. ;D
On the benches. We have several to build out of the Indian Rosewood that is in the kiln. We generally cut the legs into octagons, about 20" long, put them in a vice and cut 2.00" tenons on them with the Lumberjock cutter, then we glue and screw them into the 2" holes that were cut with a Forstner bit, let them dry for a day, take them to the mill, clamp, set the blade to 19" (a comfortable height for me) and cut the legs off level....next.
If anyone is interested, I'll bring some octagon oak leg blanks, the tenon cutter and a bench slab. We try to keep a few benches on hand. They are good to stack wood on, customers see them and buy them, and they are good to sit on and drink cold refreshing beverages on after a long, hot day of work. The fire is irony (too many irons in the fire) for the next 20 days or so but after that, the project is what I am certainly looking forward to. I anticipate this one will be exceptional, with one very important person missing. I appreciate Jake hosting and making this opportunity available to us FF members.
On another note, I'm planning on bringing some dendro samples and a few wood samples that may be of interest to those of you from the glaciated north. If anyone else wants to bring a sample from their backyard, it might be of interest too.
I also intend to bring a few "Mystery Wood" samples. ;D
Caveman I still have the old WM sharpener. It has so much extra stuff on it that I felt it better to have a currently available machine to demo. That isn't the only reason I bought it but it's the one I'm going to use until the extra credit burns off.
Hi Jake,
I will be there with my son-in-law Adam. Changed some travel plans so we could make this years Project. I think that may make us 64 / 65. We can also bring tables and chairs like we have before. Let me know how many and I will bring whatever is needed. Really looking forward to seeing everyone. Also have a couple of mystery boards to bring.
I'm a little slow on the update. Looking forward to it - hoping the country doesn't collapse before then!!
| | 2023 SAWING PROJECT IN HONOR OF WDH | | | | |
| No. | Handle | Name | Location | Vittles, Supplies, Other |
| 1 | customsawyer | Jake | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 2 | customsawyer | Tammy | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 3 | doc henderson | Bryan | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 4 | doc henderson | Georgia | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 5 | boardmaker | Lucas | Southeast | MO | |
| 6 | boardmaker | Kristin | Southeast | MO | |
| 7 | GAB | Mike | Charlotte | VT | |
| 8 | GAB | Gerald | Charlotte | VT | |
| 9 | Andries | Andries | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 10 | Andries | Teea | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 11 | moosehunter | Mike | Newfield | NY | |
| 12 | E-Tex | Lance | Bullard | TX | |
| 13 | E-Tex | | Bullard | TX | |
| 14 | caveman | Kyle | Lakeland | FL | |
| 15 | caveman | John | Lakeland | FL | |
| 16 | Patrick NC | Patrick?? | Casar | NC | |
| 17 | Patrick NC | | Casar | NC | |
| 18 | RefHawk | | Ellijay | GA | |
| 19 | RefHawk | Hamajama | Ellijay | GA | |
| 20 | TroyC | | Central | GA | |
| 21 | YellowHammer | Robert | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 100" |
| 22 | YellowHammer | Martha | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 101" |
| 23 | Mossy Chariot | Tony | Knoxville | TN | |
| 24 | scsmith42 | Scott | New Hill | NC | |
| 25 | Sixacresand | John | Gordon | GA | |
| 26 | Sixacresand | Nancy | Gordon | GA | |
| 27 | Stephen1 | Steve | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 28 | Stephen1 | Cathy | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 29 | DbltreeBelgians | Brent | Rawson | OH | |
| 30 | DbltreeBelgians | Jill | Rawson | OH | |
| 31 | okmulch | | Stillwater | OK | |
| 32 | okmulch | Jennifer | Stillwater | OK | |
| 33 | WDFL | | Apopka | FL | Tentative |
| 34 | fishpharmer | James | Manning | SC | |
| 35 | trimguy | Arnie | Augusta | GA | |
| 36 | trimguy | Joy | Augusta | GA | |
| 37 | WV Sawmiller | Howard | Hinton | WV | |
| 38 | WV Sawmiller | Becky | Hinton | WV | |
| 39 | Deese | Frank | Grady | AL | |
| 40 | Deese | +1 | Grady | AL | |
| 41 | Nomad | Bill | Jacksonville | FL | |
| 42 | Cedarman | Dick | Marengo | IN | |
| 43 | Cedarman | Jane | Marengo | IN | |
| 44 | Cedarman | Danielle | Marengo | IN | |
| 45 | RichTired | Richard | Jefferson Co. | AL | |
| 46 | Leemcclure55 | Lee | Canton | GA | |
| 47 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 48 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 49 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 50 | will49766 | Will | Freeport | MI | |
| 51 | will49766 | Julie | Freeport | MI | |
| 52 | Magicman | Lynn | Brookhaven | MS | |
| 53 | Magicman | Pat | Brookhaven | MS | |
| 54 | fluidpowerpro | Tom | Holyoke | MN | |
| 55 | fluidpowerpro | Kathi | Holyoke | MN | |
| 56 | Resonator | | Wausau | WI | Maybe |
| 57 | flatrock58 | Mike | Carrollton | GA | |
| 58 | terrifictimbersllc | Dennis | Mystic | CT | |
| 59 | Fearless Leader | Jeff | Detour Village | MI | not sure yet, but if I can make it happen, I'll be there |
| 60 | stanwelch | Stan | Coldwater | MI | |
| 61 | stanwelch | Jeff | Coldwater | MI | |
| 62 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Gene | Bishop | GA | |
| 63 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Barbara | Bishop | GA | |
| 64 | Old Greenhorn | Tom | Catskill Mountains | NY | |
| 65 | Mfrost459 | Mike | Winston | GA | |
| 66 | Mfrost459 | Adam | Winston | GA | |
Thanks for doing this Jake! I plan to attend.
/Dave
Great Dave. Any chance you can bring your sawmill and demo it for some folks? Not sure if you have it set up in a more permanent situation or not.
That would be interesting to see! I have questions. ;D popcorn_smiley
I noted that the high in Rentz was 81 yesterday. Barely touched 60 here with 32 for the low.
I seem to be 59 and 61.
Sorry about that!
| | 2023 SAWING PROJECT IN HONOR OF WDH | | | | |
| No. | Handle | Name | Location | Vittles, Supplies, Other |
| 1 | customsawyer | Jake | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 2 | customsawyer | Tammy | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 3 | doc henderson | Bryan | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 4 | doc henderson | Georgia | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 5 | boardmaker | Lucas | Southeast | MO | |
| 6 | boardmaker | Kristin | Southeast | MO | |
| 7 | GAB | Mike | Charlotte | VT | |
| 8 | GAB | Gerald | Charlotte | VT | |
| 9 | Andries | Andries | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 10 | Andries | Teea | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 11 | moosehunter | Mike | Newfield | NY | |
| 12 | E-Tex | Lance | Bullard | TX | |
| 13 | E-Tex | | Bullard | TX | |
| 14 | caveman | Kyle | Lakeland | FL | |
| 15 | caveman | John | Lakeland | FL | |
| 16 | Patrick NC | Patrick?? | Casar | NC | |
| 17 | Patrick NC | | Casar | NC | |
| 18 | RefHawk | | Ellijay | GA | |
| 19 | RefHawk | Hamajama | Ellijay | GA | |
| 20 | TroyC | | Central | GA | |
| 21 | YellowHammer | Robert | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 100" |
| 22 | YellowHammer | Martha | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 101" |
| 23 | Mossy Chariot | Tony | Knoxville | TN | |
| 24 | scsmith42 | Scott | New Hill | NC | |
| 25 | Sixacresand | John | Gordon | GA | |
| 26 | Sixacresand | Nancy | Gordon | GA | |
| 27 | Stephen1 | Steve | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 28 | Stephen1 | Cathy | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 29 | DbltreeBelgians | Brent | Rawson | OH | |
| 30 | DbltreeBelgians | Jill | Rawson | OH | |
| 31 | okmulch | | Stillwater | OK | |
| 32 | okmulch | Jennifer | Stillwater | OK | |
| 33 | WDFL | | Apopka | FL | Tentative |
| 34 | fishpharmer | James | Manning | SC | |
| 35 | trimguy | Arnie | Augusta | GA | |
| 36 | trimguy | Joy | Augusta | GA | |
| 37 | WV Sawmiller | Howard | Hinton | WV | |
| 38 | WV Sawmiller | Becky | Hinton | WV | |
| 39 | Deese | Frank | Grady | AL | |
| 40 | Deese | +1 | Grady | AL | |
| 41 | Nomad | Bill | Jacksonville | FL | |
| 42 | Cedarman | Dick | Marengo | IN | |
| 43 | Cedarman | Jane | Marengo | IN | |
| 44 | Cedarman | Danielle | Marengo | IN | |
| 45 | RichTired | Richard | Jefferson Co. | AL | |
| 46 | Leemcclure55 | Lee | Canton | GA | |
| 47 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 48 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 49 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 50 | will49766 | Will | Freeport | MI | |
| 51 | will49766 | Julie | Freeport | MI | |
| 52 | Magicman | Lynn | Brookhaven | MS | |
| 53 | Magicman | Pat | Brookhaven | MS | |
| 54 | fluidpowerpro | Tom | Holyoke | MN | |
| 55 | fluidpowerpro | Kathi | Holyoke | MN | |
| 56 | Resonator | | Wausau | WI | Maybe |
| 57 | flatrock58 | Mike | Carrollton | GA | |
| 58 | terrifictimbersllc | Dennis | Mystic | CT | |
| 59 | Fearless Leader | Jeff | Detour Village | MI | not sure yet, but if I can make it happen, I'll be there |
| 60 | stanwelch | Stan | Coldwater | MI | |
| 61 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Gene | Bishop | GA | |
| 62 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Barbara | Bishop | GA | |
| 63 | Old Greenhorn | Tom | Catskill Mountains | NY | |
| 64 | Mfrost459 | Mike | Winston | GA | |
| 65 | Mfrost459 | Adam | Winston | GA | |
| 66 | WWDave | Dave | Dublin | GA | |
Quote from: Jeff on March 23, 2023, 12:20:04 PM
I seem to be 59 and 61.
That's because you are larger than life Boss!
I told Furby he could be 61, but he insists on being the unknown number.
Furby had better make it. I enjoy chatting with that guy.
He is trying, but he has a busy spring schedule with living roof deliveries to nyc, wisconsin, rhode island and boston.
I am going to throw a wrench into all the numbers. We can not make it across the border. It seems your government wants us to be vaccinated until May 11. For some reason May 11 is the safe day to not be vaccinated.
I have had friends make it across and some have been turned back. I do not want to drive 3 hrs on a crapshoot.
I was so looking forward to coming this year.
Very Disappointed. :(
This is very disappointing. :'( Unfortunately we have a knee-jerk in control.
Not currently my government
Stephen I think you should risk it. I'm special and worth the trip. :D :D :D
That's the best I could come up with because anything else I might say would get sent to the wood shed.
The other idea I have is that you come on and just tell them you're vaccinated. And that you identify as a cat so they can't ask that kind of personal information.
Quote from: customsawyer on March 25, 2023, 11:35:23 AM
Stephen I think you should risk it. I'm special and worth the trip. :D :D :D
That's the best I could come up with because anything else I might say would get sent to the wood shed.
The other idea I have is that you come on and just tell them you're vaccinated. And that you identify as a cat so they can't ask that kind of personal information.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I agree you are worth it.
I am Coming!
So mark me down.
Well Cathy and I have been talking and she wants me to go. I had to get a the vaccine to go visit my son and grandson early last year. We had hoped to make a nice trip south for the Sawing project and a vacation on the ocean for a couple of weeks. Not going to happen.
I have reached out to Old Greenhorn and Terrificimberslic as they are flying into Atlanta and driving down to the show. To see if I can join them in sharing the car rental.
I am also reaching to anyone else that is flying or driving and from the north, needs or wants company, or can meet me at the airport in Atlanta Georgia.
I can go from Thursday to Sunday or even Monday.
Thanks in advance
Awesome. Bring her too. We'll throw a bag of sand on the porch and she will think she's on the beach.
Looks like we'll be have ng a little sub party at the days in in Dublin.
It's official I'm hitching a ride with OG and TT and will see everyone when We get there. 8)
I just hope us glaciated folks can adjust to the climate. I note that the high temp in Rentz was 81 today and the low is 25° higher than our high for the day today. Looks like it rained a bit too.
When we all meet as a group the weather will not matter. truly magical time to put a face with a handle and name. well not always magical, but you get the idea! it makes it real.
Last year these old bones were cold with the stiff wind.
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Seen here all bundled and zipped up.
This was my very last conversation with Danny.
The wind had a little edge to it last year. MM putting up pictures of folks from the south in the cold doesn't count. We need pictures of all the Yankees with their coats on tight down here in the south. :D
I always freeze when I go south.
It's a cold kind of heat eh?
Yeah, seemed most of the complaining about the cold was from the "Northern" folks, which is anybody from above South Tennessee and west of East Mississippi.
This year it'll probably be a hundred in the shade. Real southern weather.
Well I am very excited to finally be going this year and have been watching a weather station daily that is less than half mile from Jakes place. Right now it's 68 there, and the high yesterday was 88°. It all depends on what weather pattern takes hold in a given week.
Last night I stayed up too late watching videos from last years gathering and re-reading the thread. I note that it occurred 1 week earlier last year than this year, so maybe that will work for us, maybe not. One thing for sure, I don't expect to freeze and will come prepared. I think I will leave the lined jeans at home though and be a risk taker. :D
By the way, those videos are gold and Danny shows up quite a bit in them. Gonna try to work my way through the rest of that thread this morning.
Spandex sawmill video weather!!
I didn't think I needed to mention it, but I will also leave the speedo at home. You're welcome.
Jeff that gave me a horrible vision. Hope I don't dream about that tonight
The actual vision of Jake in Spandex is far worse than any dream could ever be.
And then there is that sawdust itch thing.... :o
Quote from: Magicman on March 27, 2023, 08:33:18 AM
The actual vision of Jake in Spandex is far worse than any dream could ever be.
That's what I'd call a "bad visual"..... :D
This is one situation we absolutely don't needs pics ta prove it. :D :D :D
Mankini? google is not your friend. go ahead! you can never unsee it! :snowball: :snowball: :snowball:
Thanks Doc, but I'll take a pass on that one and just take your word for it. ;D ;D
Is it going to be warm enough to invite the Woodmizer bikini team?
I think the Woodmizer bikini probably would be a bunch of dudes from the shipping department in Speedos or something like that. Be careful what you wish for😂
I always threaten a couple of my younger sisters that I'm going to get one of atrocious mankinis and show up at the beach they're at. It makes them pretty nervous because they know I would be mortified to wear something like that, unless it was in the act of embarrassing them horribly😂😂
Lord y'all sure know how to derail a subject.
To get back on track why don't y'all start discussing who is bringing what to pitch in. I don't think much has been offered yet other than BBQ. Remember if you can't or don't want to bring anything and want to just contribute in the donation can than that is fine. I'll throw out a partial list of things that is always needed. Keep in mind that most that are showing up know how to eat. There will be lunch and evening meals two days in a row. If you are offering to bring things like plates and napkins keep in mind how many will actually get used in those couple of days. I think there is close to 70 so far on the list and then there is always some locals that aren't on the forum so at this time there is around 100 or a few more coming. Anything that we run short of is not a problem as there is a little grocery store 4 miles down the road. Looking forward to seeing everyone.
Cases of drinks. (No matter the flavor they are all called Cokes in the south unless it's bottled water.)
Paper plates
Plastic ware
Napkins (no one ever just grabs one)
Side dishes
Desserts
Snacks
About anything else that someone else might like to bring.
I'm coming Thursday. I'll bring enough plastic utensils for the whole shindig. (I'll bring a hundred or so bowls, too. Nobody ever thinks about those.)
Thanks for bringing us back Jake, I was about to cancel my reservations!
I will bring a few cases of something other than cokes as I don't drink soda and am sure others are the same. Probably Gatorade. And tea. I like tea.
mh
Dennis Stephen, and I are flying in, so maybe we can check in at the last minute with you to see what you are still missing and fill in with that which I assume we can find somewhere in Dublin?
I can bring 10 or so cases of various coke/Pepsi products. Or a cash donation. Whichever works best.
A personal family conflict developed yesterday that will prevent Pat & I from attending the Project.
We were looking forward to this event especially since so many "new" attendees will be there but this could not be avoided. A week either way would have been OK, but..... :-X
Heck, I spent yesterday planing and "labeling" Mystery Wood samples. ???
Very sorry to hear this Lynn. I was very much looking forward to hooking up again. I do hope everything is OK at home with you folks.
Well, that's a shame, but you got to do what you got to do.
I will bring a couple hundred solo type cups, Paper plates and paper towels.
And a couple of cases of family friendly soft drinks.
Sorry to hear that Lynn. I was looking forward to meeting you. Take care.
I'm planning on cooking for some of the kids at school on 4/11. I'll probably throw a few extras (probably some potatoes and some pork) on the smoker that day for us to bring. We'll have to reheat them on a grill or oven. I'll likely have a few cases of waters and some extra ice. My wife can probably be convinced to make a dessert. If tables are needed, let me know. I have 6-8 folding tables I can bring.
MagicMan, I was looking forward to seeing you and Mrs. Pat again this year.
Someone may want to bring name tags or maybe we should start posting pictures of ourselves here (not in spandex of course).
Name tags would be great, nice to put Forum name on a face at the event! I'll check Costco and the Dollar store.
good to see real name and handle to put the two together.
If y'all don't know me by now than I give up. LOL
All jokes aside I hate to hear about that Lynn.
There is no wrong or right thing to bring. I've never seen any one attending this even that spit something out. Dang even brought chickens feet one time. I didn't see any one take a bite but they didn't spit it out either. Any number of things can be brought. Tater salad, coleslaw, God only knows what else. Of course you don't have to bring anything just don't want to double up on things that don't need to be.
Suggestion: Bring business cards. It was at a Pig Roast that I got MM's business card that I used when I needed an autographed box of GRITS for Ray. For a good read look up "Crime does pay".
GAB
We will bring potato salad.
We always bring genuine Alabama flavored Tennessee Bar B Que.
Name tags - might need that - I have a tendency to quietly blend in with the crowd and go unnoticed. So I'll be the guy wearing the hat.
Last year I got to the project and lurked around. Finally recognized Doc but he had no beard. Took me awhile to figure out who Danny was, kept looking for the hound dog. Jeff and Jake were easy. Yellowhammer wasn't too hard to figure out, met a few other members. Made my mind up that I'd bring name tags this year so I would not have to keep asking people who they are.......... :)
BTW and FYI - those of you/us who saw commercially, keep up with/document your expenses as they are tax deductible for training/professional development purposes. My tax preparer told me a few years back including my wife in such trips was also deductible. (Maybe she is listing her as my business associate?)
Should we be bringing our own chairs? I think I stopped at Walmart in 2019 to get one.
Quote from: GAB on March 28, 2023, 07:46:53 PM
Suggestion: Bring business cards. It was at a Pig Roast that I got MM's business card that I used when I needed an autographed box of GRITS for Ray. For a good read look up "Crime does pay".
GAB
Ray's kinda Grits.
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Quote from: Mooseherder on March 29, 2023, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: GAB on March 28, 2023, 07:46:53 PM
Suggestion: Bring business cards. It was at a Pig Roast that I got MM's business card that I used when I needed an autographed box of GRITS for Ray. For a good read look up "Crime does pay".
GAB
Ray's kinda Grits.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13635/Grits.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1680099626)
That is the first bag of bilingual grits that I've seen.
GAB
and so it begins... continues!
I'm sorry that you will not make it Lynn.
Well first off grits should never have any caps.
Put us on the list. Dennis & Rita Langston. Have been wanting come since the beginning.
| | 2023 SAWING PROJECT IN HONOR OF WDH | | | | |
| No. | Handle | Name | Location | Vittles, Supplies, Other |
| 1 | customsawyer | Jake | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 2 | customsawyer | Tammy | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 3 | doc henderson | Bryan | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 4 | doc henderson | Georgia | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 5 | boardmaker | Lucas | Southeast | MO | |
| 6 | boardmaker | Kristin | Southeast | MO | |
| 7 | GAB | Mike | Charlotte | VT | |
| 8 | GAB | Gerald | Charlotte | VT | |
| 9 | Andries | Andries | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 10 | Andries | Teea | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 11 | moosehunter | Mike | Newfield | NY | few cases of something other than cokes as I don't drink soda and am sure others are the same. Probably Gatorade and tea. |
| 12 | E-Tex | Lance | Bullard | TX | |
| 13 | E-Tex | | Bullard | TX | |
| 14 | caveman | Kyle | Lakeland | FL | potatoes, pork few cases of water, ice, a desert, and tables if needed. |
| 15 | caveman | John | Lakeland | FL | |
| 16 | Patrick NC | Patrick?? | Casar | NC | 10 or so cases of various coke/Pepsi products. Or a cash donation. Whichever works best |
| 17 | Patrick NC | | Casar | NC | |
| 18 | RefHawk | | Ellijay | GA | |
| 19 | RefHawk | Hamajama | Ellijay | GA | |
| 20 | TroyC | | Central | GA | |
| 21 | YellowHammer | Robert | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 100" - the one wearing a hat. Tennessee Bar B Que w/????? flavor |
| 22 | YellowHammer | Martha | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 101" |
| 23 | Mossy Chariot | Tony | Knoxville | TN | |
| 24 | scsmith42 | Scott | New Hill | NC | |
| 25 | Sixacresand | John | Gordon | GA | |
| 26 | Sixacresand | Nancy | Gordon | GA | |
| 27 | Stephen1 | Steve | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 28 | Stephen1 | Cathy | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 29 | DbltreeBelgians | Brent | Rawson | OH | |
| 30 | DbltreeBelgians | Jill | Rawson | OH | |
| 31 | okmulch | | Stillwater | OK | |
| 32 | okmulch | Jennifer | Stillwater | OK | |
| 33 | WDFL | | Apopka | FL | Tentative |
| 34 | fishpharmer | James | Manning | SC | |
| 35 | trimguy | Arnie | Augusta | GA | |
| 36 | trimguy | Joy | Augusta | GA | |
| 37 | WV Sawmiller | Howard | Hinton | WV | |
| 38 | WV Sawmiller | Becky | Hinton | WV | |
| 39 | Deese | Frank | Grady | AL | |
| 40 | Deese | +1 | Grady | AL | |
| 41 | Nomad | Bill | Jacksonville | FL | enough plastic utensils for the whole shindig. I'll bring a hundred or so bowls, too. |
| 42 | Cedarman | Dick | Marengo | IN | |
| 43 | Cedarman | Jane | Marengo | IN | |
| 44 | Cedarman | Danielle | Marengo | IN | |
| 45 | RichTired | Richard | Jefferson Co. | AL | couple hundred solo type cups, Paper plates and paper towels and a couple of cases of family friendly soft drinks. |
| 46 | Leemcclure55 | Lee | Canton | GA | |
| 47 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 48 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 49 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 50 | will49766 | Will | Freeport | MI | |
| 51 | will49766 | Julie | Freeport | MI | |
| | Magicman | Lynn | Brookhaven | MS | Hate MM and Pat will not make it!!!!! |
| | Magicman | Pat | Brookhaven | MS | |
| 52 | fluidpowerpro | Tom | Holyoke | MN | |
| 53 | fluidpowerpro | Kathi | Holyoke | MN | |
| 54 | Resonator | | Wausau | WI | Maybe |
| 55 | flatrock58 | Mike | Carrollton | GA | |
| 56 | terrifictimbersllc | Dennis | Mystic | CT | |
| 57 | Fearless Leader | Jeff | Detour Village | MI | |
| 58 | stanwelch | Stan | Coldwater | MI | |
| 59 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Gene | Bishop | GA | |
| 60 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Barbara | Bishop | GA | |
| 61 | Old Greenhorn | Tom | Catskill Mountains | NY | |
| 62 | Mfrost459 | Mike | Winston | GA | |
| 63 | Mfrost459 | Adam | Winston | GA | |
| 64 | WWDave | Dave | Dublin | GA | |
| 65 | never finished | Dennis | Bigelow | AR | |
| 66 | never finished | Rita | Bigelow | AR | |
Well took a glance at the weather for the project this morning. Looks like the Masters this weekend is getting the not so good weather and ours will be nice. Lows will be around 60 and the highs in the mid 80s. You glaciated northern folks should probably bring your long johns for the evening temps. Of course this is if they aren't lying to us. We all know the further out the forecast is the more likely it is to be wrong. Should make for a great couple of days.
Well Jake, since I signed on I have been checking your weather daily and your nighttime lows are still 10-15° warmer than our daytime highs and your daytime highs are 15-20° (or more) higher than ours. I'll leave my lined pants at home. :D
Regardless of the weather, it will be a great couple of days, no doubt. This has been on my list for years and long overdue.
Now that we are getting close, is there anything you are coming up short on or have a need for? We are flying in, so there is a limit on what we could bring, but I assume stuff can be shipped also.
Counting the days here. :)
I know better. My lined pants are coming with.
It's been a long time since I've flown (before the plague at least). Can somebody tell me for domestic flights what is allowed in liquids now? I had thought the 1oz. travel bottles were OK, but these days who knows? Just thinking shampoo, etc. Also need my hydrocortisone cream (still can't shale that rash from wood). Any other stupid restrictions I should be aware of?
TSA info
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/liquids-rule#:~:text=You%20are%20allowed%20to%20bring,milliliters)%20or%20less%20per%20item.
For those of you who have not booked rooms yet (I just did ours this afternoon due to being a slacker trying to juggle way too many balls), you may want to enquire about discounts. At the Quality Inn, we were able to get a bit of a break by asking for a AAA and a construction discount.
Last week, while staying in a hotel in Florida, I asked for the state rate (school job related) and it saved the school system $32/night for three rooms for two nights. Often, there are a variety of prices for the same room.
We'll be leaving the infernal, traffic congested peninsula dark and early next Thursday morning.
I don't need anything at all. I just put it out there for those that it means something to to (Tom) bring something. Drop a few green things in the donation can and we are all good. Over the years of Danny and I providing this thing we normally come out in the hole a little bit and we would always split it out of the wood sales. If we come up short again it isn't the end of the world as I know I don't have the travel expenses that the rest of you do. I host this because I enjoy it. If I make a buck so be it. If I lose a couple than that is fine. My main goal is that we all have a good time and learn something. Haven't failed yet. Of course most of the learning is coming from those that are here and sharing. I just have the "stuff" for them to teach on.
Richard, thanks for that link, it set me straight. Hopefully I am good.
Jake, I really appreciate what you do to put this on and know you wouldn't keep doing it if it weren't fun. Still having done a few things like this and taken on the money burden in the process, I don't think it's fair that you open your doors, home, and business to us unwashed masses and also bear any the cost. I will be dumping as heavily into the can as I can because I appreciate this more than the average person would understand. The knowledge gained is nearly priceless and the 'feel good' is even more valuable.
Heck, I even went to Walmart and bought a new shirt today!
A new shirt?!! I'm not sure I can live up to that high of a standard!
mh
Heck he's putting pressure on me too.
No pressure at all. A small confession in total confidence: as much as I love my wife and she is a great homemaker, cook, financial whiz, Mom and a bunch of other stuff, she just can't seem to get my works clothes very clean. They are 'clean' but the stains and dirt show over time and I only get new stuff in long intervals. So I haven't bought a shirt in years except for a hickory shirt I bought last year and it now has a permanent dinge to it. I want to look somewhat presentable. I shouldn't even tell you that I bought new underwear also because it been over ten years since I have been in a Walmart.
No, there's no pressure. I could fly down, enjoy the company of my traveling companions, go to the sawmill and sit on a stump and meet folks, catch up with others, and just talk, and it would be a great weekend.
There's only been a few come here with new cloths and we make them stand by the cooler. Don't want them to make the rest of us to look bad.
Well, assuming the cooler is where the beer is kept, I could probably live with that. :D Actually I doubt my new shirt would stand out at all, honest. It's just a shirt. I will wear regular work jeans and shoes. Likely, given the weather forecast, I will be in t-shirts anyway and the new shirt won't even get seen. Guess I should have never mentioned it. ;D
I'm feeling I have a fashion deficit.
I've been wearing insulated Carhartts and a parka for so long that I've forgotten what's under there. Jeff, it's called winter fashion - it's not a deficit if it's warm. 😊
I've been using ice roads for a few weeks now.
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Excavators and skidsteers and dump trailers all on the ice.
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When we get to Jake's place, it'll feel good to walk on green grass again.
Andries will you even realize you are walking if you don't hear the crunch of snow under your boots? I'm looking at those pictures and I had to go get my jacket.
I have spent most of my life in a fashion deficit. ;D In fact, one shop I worked in where I did all the big machine maintenance, the office manager got so tired of seeing me in ratty perma-stained torn jeans and work shirts that she harassed me about it all the time. But I explained the work just ruined my clothes and I was not going to spend my earnings buying clothes to make her happy. Old grease, hydraulic oil, neversieze, gasket sealers, and the like made them a mess that would not wash out. She finally gave in and had the uniform service start supplying me uniforms at company expense. All the other guys had to pay for theirs, but none of the other guys got covered in ugly stuff routinely.
Jeff, you had me rethinking the lined pants, but I see the high at Jakes yesterday was 86 and the low was 61 and the 10 day forecast puts the temp in the high 70's and low 80's. Glad its not this weekend, it looks like a rain out from Friday afternoon to Sunday mid-day and it's the same weekend as last year's project. So I'll take a risk. ;D I actually stopped the lined pants here last week. For Andries, I imagine it will fell like stepping off the plane into a sauna when he arrives. I flew to Orlando on business one January and it was 5 below and snowing like mad when I left NY in the afternoon and I arrived to 65° temps in Orlando. I got dinner after I checked in and asked the hostess if I could eat out on the (completely empty) patio. She looked at me like I had 3 heads and just said "Well, it's FREEZING out there, but OK" then she rolled her eyes and set me up on a table where I could watch the sunset. Everything is relative.
Andries, after looking at those pictures, I hate to be blunt, but you need to move. :D :D :D
It's 67 here, and these is no snow on the ground.
It'll be good to see you again!
Robert
Winnipeg is nicknamed Winterpeg for a reason! ;D
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K-guy, this could be the fashion deficit that Jeff was talking about. 😁 sorry to hear that you can't make it to The Project this year, your endless supply of jokes is always fun.
YH, thanks for the advice, but when it gets too 100°F before breakfast, for six months of the year, I'll just want to move back to Canada to feed the blackflies and mosquitoes. Can't take the heat. I'll be out on the patio with Tom.
Snowing steady here today, and it'll stop sometime tonight.
We haven't travelled since the plague started in March of 2020.
Teea and I are driving and plan on taking the long way to Jake's place. She spotted some shopping hot spots on a trip through Asheville. $$$
Y'all don't forget sunscreen especially those from northern regions! That Georgia sun will let you know its boss if you aren't used to it!
Wish y'all the best for safe travels and a fun and productive time!
Welp, it's been more than a few years since I took a major road trip... well over 10 years since I was way down south... my old USA trucker atlas is from 2008... and as I recall Nashville and Atlanta can be "fun" to drive through... but dog gone it, I'm gonna see if I can make it!
So next week "Good Lord willin', and the creek don't rise" (old saying), I'll be "Headin' down south to land of the pines" (old song lyrics). ;D
I do plan on playing my set Friday evening, then if anybody wants to jam, meet up with me at the event. Would be cool to do something in Danny's memory. smiley_guitarist
Resonator (Jeremy) #54 Maybe Yes! 8)
We will be driving down Thursday. What is best time and worst time to drive through Atlanta?
What is normally the best route to get through or around Atlanta?
I looked at your route in google maps and would take 75 down to near Atlanta center then 85 then back to 75 before heading to Rentz.
I've driven that route into Atlanta before and it will get very busy around Atlanta center later than about 2pm IMO. So I would use the feature in Google maps where you "leave at" (4am for example), to estimate traffic delay time and get you through town before afternoon rush hour.
Every time I drive through Atlanta (including as recently as 2 weeks ago) I am firmly convinced Sherman had the right idea.
I cut several inches off of my hair and beard a few minutes ago so I would look a little more presentable. I assure you that I will not be wearing Yoga/spandex pants, even if someone is making a Youtube video.
It will be good to meet a lot of you for the first time and see old friends again.
Jake, I appreciate you affording us this opportunity for fellowship, education and the recreational diversion that I and probably so many others are in need of.
Got to 89 yesterday. For you northern folks not used to that big of numbers, it's really close to 90. :D I haven't even had time to start getting things ready. Y'all might be showing up and seeing what it normally looks like if I don't get it cleaned up around here.
I think the bottom part of that shirt should read "Mytoesarecold".
Man, I wish I was headed to you place Jake to meet everyone and see green stuff on the ground again. Had another 13" of snow here the last 2 days, now we're bracing for the flooding. Someday, soon, we'll make that trip. Enjoy everyone!
Andries, you drive right by our place on the way to Jakes. Have a safe and enjoyable trip!
Does anyone coming have access to tupelo honey? A friend of mine up here keeps bees, and has been told how good it is, and would like me to buy some for him and bring back. Can I even carry honey on a plane?
You should be able to carry it on a plane as long as its in a small plastic container. Glass is not allowed as it could become a weapon. Just make sure to check the packaging requirements of the airline.
You might want to check the upscale specialty stores or those places that stock all the unusual items at exorbitant costs.
I'd order it online and not deal with it. ;)
If peanut butter is a liquid according to TSA, I don't think honey can be carried on. Thank you shoebomber...
I bet you could pack and pad it well and bring it in your checked bags with no problem. I sent some home to Germany with one of our exchange students back when I had bees (and exchange students). She loved to mix honey and peanut butter and took both home with her. She also took extra ice cube trays as we got her cultured enough to like lots of ice in her drink like all good southerners do.
BTW - I bet we could find the stuff "somewhere" to make you a nice secure little wood box on this trip. :D
Jake may even have some Spanish moss you can use for packing and TP when you get home. Watch for redbugs though. ;)
It ain't happening in your carry-on. That TSA agent will enjoy Honey-N-Biscuits that night.
Mooseherder offered the solution that I would choose.
Thats all ill have is a carry on, so look like mitch is outta luck. :)
Quote from: boonesyard on April 06, 2023, 10:45:38 AM. . . Andries, you drive right by our place on the way to Jakes. Have a safe and enjoyable trip!
I'm not completely set on a departure date (my wife Teea is juggling work demands), but if it works out, but could we drop in at your place for a coffee?
We could compare notes on snow drift busting' !
If anyone going to the project has a desire for orange blossom honey or wildflower (gall berry honey), let me know. My neighbor runs a pretty good-sized honey business. I can bring some. I prefer the gall berry. Oranges and groves are becoming a rarity, due to greening and loss of groves to housing developments. This time of the year, the air used to be filled with the sweet smell of orange blossoms, not anymore.
I'm greedy Caveman. I will take some of each. ;D
For those that are driving down through Atlanta (AKA Watermelon 500) I75 and I85 become one in the down town area for a few miles. So you just have to be paying attention which of the 6 or so lanes you need to be in. I don't go through there much but when I do I usually get in the HOV lane as I'm traveling with some one. It keeps you from swapping a lot of lanes and you only rarely have to be on the look out to your left.
Looks like the weather is tempering for next weekend and some rain gear might be in order for Thurs-Fri. All of a sudden our weather here, jumped in the forecast and we will be near 90 by Thursday. Very unusual and I feel cheated to miss it by flying to GA for the 'cooler' weather. :D
A New Shirt! Oh man now what am I going to wear. Coming from the north I am going there is some sort of shopping near by the Days Inn for new boots I need. Any one know what will be near by?
Walmart in Dublin, for one.
There's a small town boot store called Strickland's. Just don't plan on getting any "winter" boots that will fit your needs. Our local Walmart is the sorriest one I have ever been in.
Safe travels to all going and coming back home.
Man, I'm really late to this party but I will most definitely be there!
#68
Jake, I am bringing drinks. Should I bring a cooler and ice or will you have a drink cooler? We used to use a horse trough, id bring it but it won't fit in the car!
mh
We should have the coolers and ice handled. I have a few coolers and some folks always bring some. I also have a small ice machine that has kept up with us in the past. Remember if we run out of something it's no big deal to run and get it.
We're just West of Chicago, the compass is broken , its stuck on SOUTH. 😀
Huge amounts of snow in Fargo, ND. but we're past that now and this afternoon I was walking on green grass without a parka or snow boots on.
It feels like I'm nekkid!
You're getting closer. Keep on just a little further and then turn right, by the logs.
And so, it begins. :D
Easter Sunday Supper
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The Mrs and I splurged on supper.
Because we're so far South now (Bloomington IL. :D) I was able to experiment and ordered GRITS. . . and they were, well, gritty.
Quote from: Andries on April 09, 2023, 09:17:42 PM
Easter Sunday Supper
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The Mrs and I splurged on supper.
Because we're so far South now (Bloomington IL. :D) I was able to experiment and ordered GRITS. . . and they were, well, gritty.
Nice spread you got there,
We don't have Cracker Barrel in Canada, so hit one up for supper. It was worth it!
Nathan, good to hear from you.
Your YT videos are doing well judging by numbers that you're throwing up. Well done!
Grits in Illinois? Ain't no northerner knows how to make grits!
I was about to say the same thing. If that was a bowl of grits in the picture, I would have thrown them out the window. That ain't grits, that's just nasty. I hope your stomach is doing OK, mine flipped just looking at it.
Grits is clean and white, or slightly bright yellow, served with a little pat of butter on top, not a gray lumpy mess that looked like it was scraped out of the grease trap. Yuck....
Adries, I saw your post and was sitting here waiting for the southern boys to erupt. popcorn_smiley popcorn_smiley ;D
It took a lot longer than I thought, really. I guess the best thing to do is ask around when you get down (much) further south as to who make good decent grits and try those. Always inquire locally is my moto.
I was in Waco, TX on business and at the end of the day I inquired amongst the local staffers there as to where in town I could find the best chicken fried steak in town. Well, they started arguing about 3 different restaurants and it was getting kind of heated. I finally slipped out the door when they weren't watching and still going at it and picked the one that seemed to have the most points when I left. It WAS a good meal. ;D
Texas is the only place I have really enjoyed chicken fried steak (except when my wife makes it).
Andries. looks like you ordered the course grits. i would start with 320 and work you way up to the 80 grit seen in the picture. :)
PatD only cooks Yellow Grits here at home but you will rarely, if ever, find them in restaurants.
Since most all restaurants use what comes on the Sysco truck, it's only a matter of the cook getting the "thick/thin" texture correct. Seasoning such as salt & pepper is up to the eater. Grits is not the meal but simply a side dish.
There are several other side dishes that many folks love that I avoid such as white, brown, and mater gravy. Just a matter of personal preference.
Careful Andries
You may restart that north/south ruckus they had in the 1860's! smiley_jester
and each spring before the sawing project. with little outbursts through the year. :)
So, I was thinking of a 'grits review' as we travel South.
The Cracker Barrel menu listed it as 'red,coarse'. Terms not familiar to me other than how described by Doc H.
If that's way TOO controversial, I'll take this as a cease and desist order. Or not. 😂
BTW, any home cooking is always better than highway food. Agreed.
QuoteSince most all restaurants use what comes on the Sysco truck,
Drove for them as a delivery driver for many years, years ago. They actually had some of the highest quality food products that restaurants could get. But like any business, there was great competition on price, so lesser grade food purveyors could get the supply orders because they could beat us on price. A lot of what they serve is a "heat and eat" product, not made from scratch. Though some mom and pop and high end restaurants do make some things from scratch.
Also the big chain restaurants would have buying power to get there own direct supply from the food manufacturer. The boxes all would be packaged with their franchise name and made to their specs, so we were basically just a delivery service for their orders on are trucks.
If there are any grits at Jake's, I would try some... food1
Waffle House generally has good Grits.
Back in my 11-7 work days, we would often go to the Waffle House or Huddle House about 4AM and a bowl of hot Grits went mighty well on a cold morning. Contrary to what I said above, Grits and toast would be the only items that I ordered.
I was just gonna say something about Waffle House... other than: "Did they use syrup to glue the walls together?" ??? :D
When I did long haul trucking, I knew of a few truck stops with a Waffle House next door. I would park my truck for the night, and have a really good evening meal after a long day. I could get waffles, sausage, eggs (sunny side up), a couple sweet teas, and a slice of pie for under $20. digin1
I'll be heading down on Thursday, and staying in Dublin.
I think I could be #70 or so.
Jim Rogers
Whats grits :D
Let me guess Bruno, when you were younger did you fill balloons with gas and throw them in the campfire? Just askin' :D ;D
Saw this at the Bains Farm and Fleet in Bloomington IL. The owner was setting up a camper in the 'tank' and said that the 5.9 Cummins was a good match for the machine. Looks to me like a goin' to Alaska machine. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/3D14AACD-BD82-4B22-BF2A-EA83D6E86E09.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681169796)(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/05DAD273-B418-454C-ABFB-554FC8C467DA.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681169715)
Made it to Richmond KY, no grits on the menu tonight, I'll just it turn over to Bruno to stir the hornet nest, red ant hill, pot. :D
Tomorrow I want to check out the Daniel Boone National Forest and then keep heading South toward Dublin.
move_it
Jim, which hotel? We are in the days Inn. (Dennis, myself, and I think Stephen too.)
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Jim, which hotel? We are in the days Inn. (Dennis, myself, and I think Stephen too.)
I chose Motel 6 in Dublin. Do you guys want to go out to dinner together Thursday night?
Jim Rogers
Well it sounds good but Dennis is driving and I'm just a passenger. Probably we are going over to Jakes to check in Thursday afternoon and then I have no idea what's going on. I'm the FNG on this one. :D
I may go over to Jake's Thursday as well.
Jim Rogers
I was hoping you were gonna say that! :D
Truth is, with Dennis flying in form RI, Stephen flying in from Toronto, and me flying from Albany (NY) arriving each hour from 9 to 11am then the two hour drive, plus Dennis has a meet up, I have no idea when we will be anywhere, and that's not even with somebody's flight getting 'adjusted'. I have to just go with the flow, it's all good. :D ;D
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on April 10, 2023, 07:56:41 PM
Jim, which hotel? We are in the days Inn. (Dennis, myself, and I think Stephen too.)
Uhhh - and who else is staying there? ;)
Beats me. I guess we will find out.
Frankly I am getting stressed about flying. It's been a while. Since the TSA became a 'thing' I have never enjoyed it AT ALL. Last time I flew, I think was for business, well before COVID. I've been retired 3 years in June and have been just lately getting to relax with most stuff, but this starts it all over for me. It's not the flight, it's the airports and security, so I am stressing about waking up on time (2:30am) getting to the airport security early enough (1 hour before flight?), getting through the gauntlet, and boarding. After that, it's all gravy and I can just go with the flow.... until it's time to fly home.
BUT... it will be worth it to see all the guys and gals.
Just asked Jill, she said we are staying at the Fairfield Inn in Dublin. I let her set up the hotel reservation. Roughly a 12 hour drive for us so I'm not sure when we will arrive. Looking forward to meeting up with everyone. See you all soon.
Brent
Sorry for the last minute decision but had to get some things done before we could make sure we could get away. My wife and I will be there, 71 and 72. Larry and Linda Whippie.
I have a couple of bags of home ground grits that a great friend made this fall. One bag of white and one bag of yellow. Also a case of home made cane syrup. We might need to talk to the ladies about cooking some grits and biscuits one morning. Keep in mind I'm not promising this breakfast thing as I don't have enough good grits for this big of a crowd. Just might be something we can through in so folks can give it a try that don't have a chance to eat "good" grits.
I hope you all have safe travels. My mother's 80th birthday celebration falls during the weekend. Take lots of pictures. :)
We are on the way. Currently in F'burg VA.
Should be in pickle town NC tomorrow night.
See you allFriday.
GAB and spouse
Jake, judging by what the connosuers conisewers connisuers experts here say I don't know that I have ever had good grits so it is unfair for me to have an opinion based on poor samples. Maybe you can set me straight and enhance my horizons.
TWG, I never realized you were that close to me! I must go past your place on my way to Logrite on RT. 84. I would be going to their open house the weekend after The Project, but I have to be in VT for a family thing. I look forward to meeting you.
Tom
Its getting real. I just emptied out the bed of my truck of all my cabin/home shared tools for the first time in 3 years to leave it parked at the airport for 3 days
I just started doing that yesterday, will finish tomorrow afternoon. I have to do some milling today, so I still need 'stuff'. It's a pain, but I call it spring cleaning. I found 3 winter hats I have been looking for, for about 2 months now. ;D
Temp hit 75° here yesterday, and did a rapid thaw of the snowbanks. Kinda helps to get this frozen glacier dweller acclimated to going down south. ;D
I plan to get going Wednesday, and hope to be to by Jake's on Friday morning. What time do the activities start? ???
There are such a thing as good grits ?
Yes latitude Brother Bruno, beleive it or not, there are.
Hey @Andries (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9307), How goes the drive so far?
I think I got everyone on the list. Let me know if any changes are needed!!! See Ya'll soon!!
| | 2023 SAWING PROJECT IN HONOR OF WDH | | | | |
| No. | Handle | Name | Location | Vittles, Supplies, Other |
| 1 | customsawyer | Jake | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 2 | customsawyer | Tammy | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 3 | doc henderson | Bryan | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 4 | doc henderson | Georgia | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 5 | boardmaker | Lucas | Southeast | MO | |
| 6 | boardmaker | Kristin | Southeast | MO | |
| 7 | GAB | Mike | Charlotte | VT | |
| 8 | GAB | Gerald | Charlotte | VT | |
| 9 | Andries | Andries | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 10 | Andries | Teea | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 11 | moosehunter | Mike | Newfield | NY | few cases of something other than cokes as I don't drink soda and am sure others are the same. Probably Gatorade and tea. |
| 12 | E-Tex | Lance | Bullard | TX | |
| 13 | E-Tex | | Bullard | TX | |
| 14 | caveman | Kyle | Lakeland | FL | potatoes, pork few cases of water, ice, a desert, and tables if needed. |
| 15 | caveman | John | Lakeland | FL | |
| 16 | Patrick NC | Patrick?? | Casar | NC | 10 or so cases of various coke/Pepsi products. Or a cash donation. Whichever works best |
| 17 | Patrick NC | | Casar | NC | |
| 18 | RefHawk | | Ellijay | GA | |
| 19 | RefHawk | Hamajama | Ellijay | GA | |
| 20 | TroyC | | Central | GA | |
| 21 | YellowHammer | Robert | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 100" - the one wearing a hat. Tennessee Bar B Que w/????? flavor |
| 22 | YellowHammer | Martha | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 101" |
| 23 | Mossy Chariot | Tony | Knoxville | TN | |
| 24 | scsmith42 | Scott | New Hill | NC | |
| 25 | Sixacresand | John | Gordon | GA | |
| 26 | Sixacresand | Nancy | Gordon | GA | |
| 27 | Stephen1 | Steve | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 28 | Stephen1 | Cathy | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 29 | DbltreeBelgians | Brent | Rawson | OH | |
| 30 | DbltreeBelgians | Jill | Rawson | OH | |
| 31 | okmulch | | Stillwater | OK | |
| 32 | okmulch | Jennifer | Stillwater | OK | |
| 33 | WDFL | | Apopka | FL | Tentative |
| 34 | fishpharmer | James | Manning | SC | |
| 35 | trimguy | Arnie | Augusta | GA | |
| 36 | trimguy | Joy | Augusta | GA | |
| 37 | WV Sawmiller | Howard | Hinton | WV | |
| 38 | WV Sawmiller | Becky | Hinton | WV | |
| 39 | Deese | Frank | Grady | AL | |
| 40 | Deese | +1 | Grady | AL | |
| 41 | Nomad | Bill | Jacksonville | FL | enough plastic utensils for the whole shindig. I'll bring a hundred or so bowls, too. |
| 42 | Cedarman | Dick | Marengo | IN | |
| 43 | Cedarman | Jane | Marengo | IN | |
| 44 | Cedarman | Danielle | Marengo | IN | |
| 45 | RichTired | Richard | Jefferson Co. | AL | couple hundred solo type cups, Paper plates and paper towels and a couple of cases of family friendly soft drinks. |
| 46 | Leemcclure55 | Lee | Canton | GA | |
| 47 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 48 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 49 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 50 | will49766 | Will | Freeport | MI | |
| 51 | will49766 | Julie | Freeport | MI | |
| | Magicman | Lynn | Brookhaven | MS | Hate MM and Pat will not make it!!!!! |
| | Magicman | Pat | Brookhaven | MS | |
| 52 | fluidpowerpro | Tom | Holyoke | MN | |
| 53 | fluidpowerpro | Kathi | Holyoke | MN | |
| 54 | Resonator | Jeremy | Wausau | WI | YES!!!!!! |
| 55 | flatrock58 | Mike | Carrollton | GA | |
| 56 | terrifictimbersllc | Dennis | Mystic | CT | |
| 57 | Fearless Leader | Jeff | Detour Village | MI | |
| 58 | stanwelch | Stan | Coldwater | MI | |
| 59 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Gene | Bishop | GA | |
| 60 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Barbara | Bishop | GA | |
| 61 | Old Greenhorn | Tom | Catskill Mountains | NY | |
| 62 | Mfrost459 | Mike | Winston | GA | |
| 63 | Mfrost459 | Adam | Winston | GA | |
| 64 | WWDave | Dave | Dublin | GA | |
| 65 | never finished | Dennis | Bigelow | AR | |
| 66 | never finished | Rita | Bigelow | AR | |
| 67 | Dand104 | | Juliette | GA | |
| 68 | Jim_Rogers | Jim | Sneads Ferry | NC | |
| 69 | TWG | Larry | Newtown | CT | |
| 70 | TWG | Linda | Newtown | CT | |
I'm getting more excited every day. We're staying at the Fairfield Inn. A romantic sawmill weekend wasn't an easy sell to my wife. So I thought I better not mess up a cheap motel. (I have done that a few times. We have actually put furniture against a motel room door before). She has been watching the weather for Rentz. She asked what we'll do if it's raining. I told her the show must go on. I hope it's just rain, and not tornado warnings. This is the first week we haven't had one in a while. See ya'll there. Yes I'm from the south but I don't eat grits.
MC,
My good friend and FF member Kim Bruce will be attending as well. So please add one more to the list.
Thanks!
@Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) the drive has been good. We've put about 1,600 miles on the wife's Highlander which is a fuel-sipper and comfortable. The only close call was passing South and West of Cincinnati, at afternoon rush hour. Some clever highway designer thought it was really super clever to have an offramp and on ramp within about 150 feet of each other . . . what could go wrong? The Rubicon was coming down the off ramp and I was trying for the next exit, and we had a comfortable 6" to spare as I was standing on the brakes. Whew! Next exit for me then! :snowball:
The big rigs have been good, which is to say they pretty much follow a pattern and are predictable. The sedans are the wildcards. Slow and frady-cat one minute and speed demons the next. We've got the same variety in Canada, it's just that there's five miles between all the vehicles up there.
The hills in Kentucky are gorgeous with red bud and Callery pear coming into flower. Have I mentioned that you Americans have got a beautiful country?
Finished sawing some walnut today and will pack up tomorrow. We finessed boiling today and I will wash the big tanks tomorrow and pull all the taps to hang. Pretty warm here so I can get to used to the HOT in Georgia.
No lined pants but I did pack some shorts. 8)
Mossy , Cathy is not coming so you can scratch her form the list. #28
There are few things prettier than Kentucky in redbud season :).
Adries, glad the trip is progressing well! Yes, the country is pretty and I imagine the transition from the glaciated north down through into warmer and warmer climes each day is striking indeed. I have found my few visits to Canada to be strikingly beautiful also. I think we notice what we are not used to or what might be new to us most. I too am struck when I go down south in the spring because they really do up the season right there with the trees and flowers and the dogwoods.
Stephen, there is no way I am even thinking about lined pants, I stopped wearing them here 2 weeks ago. But shorts? Nope, not that courageous. :D Besides I wouldn't want anybody being blinded by my pasty white legs. It would feel good for a while, but when the day cools off, I do too. I am bringing my sunglasses, so feel free to wear your shorts. :D ;D Actually I only wear shorts when relaxing or doing music fests and things like that. I don't like wearing them when I'm working because of dirt and sawdust and lack of protection from bugs, etc.. I am very much looking for an opportunity to be able to walk about outdoors in a t-shirt and be comfortable. That will be huge enough for me. Today was almost that day here, but not quite. Friday here will be that day, but I'll be out of town. :D
I am bringing a rain jacket from looking at the forecast. Bring it on. I've been waiting too long to make this and I ain't missing any of it. It's all good.
We went for a walk along the French Broad River in Asheville NC. What a gorgeous place!
Friendly people, good food, mountain views to die for (coming from a Prairie boy, anything with an elevation of ten feet) and arts. Wow! (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/7A19DAE9-B0C9-4F75-8248-317CA1387540.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681262266)
The crafts and metal works are impressive. We went down a few side streets and alleys.
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Maddie led us to this door, I'm guessing because of the two dishes of cat food on the door stoop.
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Well, inside we saw the equipment and secret ingredients for the local shine.
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We bought a bottle each, and this was my choice:
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Well, we've settled in at the motel now, and I'm having a few sips while watching Andy Griffith on MeTv. Ahhh, Livin' the Dream.
Teea may have to do the driving tomorrow if that label is accurate. :D ;) :D
OG, have a good flight, it'll be a breeze.
DonP, my head is spinning trying to ID between forty? hardwood types, let alone the flowering ornamentals. Yikes, it's like the tropics down here!
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Top of the line, Alabama flavored Tennessee BBQ is ready.
Can't hardly wait, can smell it already!
Hey wait!
Is that white grits under the ice? ;)
Starting to look like a few folks have been looking forward to this as much as I have.
Safe travels to all you travelers! move_it
Whilst studying a map in preparation
for my drive I noticed that right behind Jake's place is "Mosquito Creek".
Jake, would you care to comment on that and any precautions we will need to take? :D
mh
MH, that might be the local wildlife refuge. :D :D
Jake I can only speak for myself when I say I am as excited as a 6 year old on Christmas eve! It's been on my list for years and when the stars aligned this year to let it happen I have been excited ever since. Thank you again for hosting this and for all the semi-localish folks that bring stuff and help make it happen!
Printed my boarding pass this morning, will clean the saws, gearbags, and tools from the truck today and pack. Not much else is on my mind now. 8)
Final update as I'm shutting down the computer and heading to Jake's Place!!!!
| | 2023 SAWING PROJECT IN HONOR OF WDH | | | | |
| No. | Handle | Name | Location | Vittles, Supplies, Other |
| 1 | customsawyer | Jake | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 2 | customsawyer | Tammy | Rentz | GA | Our Host |
| 3 | doc henderson | Bryan | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 4 | doc henderson | Georgia | Hutchinson | KS | |
| 5 | boardmaker | Lucas | Southeast | MO | |
| 6 | boardmaker | Kristin | Southeast | MO | |
| 7 | GAB | Mike | Charlotte | VT | |
| 8 | GAB | Gerald | Charlotte | VT | |
| 9 | Andries | Andries | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 10 | Andries | Teea | Winnipeg | MB | |
| 11 | moosehunter | Mike | Newfield | NY | few cases of something other than cokes as I don't drink soda and am sure others are the same. Probably Gatorade and tea. |
| 12 | E-Tex | Lance | Bullard | TX | |
| 13 | E-Tex | | Bullard | TX | |
| 14 | caveman | Kyle | Lakeland | FL | potatoes, pork few cases of water, ice, a desert, and tables if needed. |
| 15 | caveman | John | Lakeland | FL | |
| 16 | Patrick NC | Patrick?? | Casar | NC | 10 or so cases of various coke/Pepsi products. Or a cash donation. Whichever works best |
| 17 | Patrick NC | | Casar | NC | |
| 18 | RefHawk | | Ellijay | GA | |
| 19 | RefHawk | Hamajama | Ellijay | GA | |
| 20 | TroyC | | Central | GA | |
| 21 | YellowHammer | Robert | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 100" - the one wearing a hat. Tennessee Bar B Que w/????? flavor |
| 22 | YellowHammer | Martha | New Market | AL | "Trouble Maker 101" |
| 23 | Mossy Chariot | Tony | Knoxville | TN | |
| 24 | scsmith42 | Scott | New Hill | NC | |
| 25 | Sixacresand | John | Gordon | GA | |
| 26 | Sixacresand | Nancy | Gordon | GA | |
| 27 | Stephen1 | Steve | Kilworthy | ON | |
| | Stephen1 | Cathy | Kilworthy | ON | |
| 28 | DbltreeBelgians | Brent | Rawson | OH | |
| 29 | DbltreeBelgians | Jill | Rawson | OH | |
| 30 | okmulch | | Stillwater | OK | |
| 31 | okmulch | Jennifer | Stillwater | OK | |
| 32 | WDFL | | Apopka | FL | Tentative |
| 33 | fishpharmer | James | Manning | SC | |
| 34 | trimguy | Arnie | Augusta | GA | |
| 35 | trimguy | Joy | Augusta | GA | |
| 36 | WV Sawmiller | Howard | Hinton | WV | |
| 37 | WV Sawmiller | Becky | Hinton | WV | |
| 38 | Deese | Frank | Grady | AL | |
| 39 | Deese | +1 | Grady | AL | |
| 40 | Nomad | Bill | Jacksonville | FL | enough plastic utensils for the whole shindig. I'll bring a hundred or so bowls, too. |
| 41 | Cedarman | Dick | Marengo | IN | |
| 42 | Cedarman | Jane | Marengo | IN | |
| 43 | Cedarman | Danielle | Marengo | IN | |
| 44 | RichTired | Richard | Jefferson Co. | AL | couple hundred solo type cups, Paper plates and paper towels and a couple of cases of family friendly soft drinks. |
| 45 | Leemcclure55 | Lee | Canton | GA | |
| 46 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 47 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 48 | Leemcclure55 | | Canton | GA | |
| 49 | will49766 | Will | Freeport | MI | |
| 50 | will49766 | Julie | Freeport | MI | |
| | Magicman | Lynn | Brookhaven | MS | Hate MM and Pat will not make it!!!!! |
| | Magicman | Pat | Brookhaven | MS | |
| 51 | fluidpowerpro | Tom | Holyoke | MN | |
| 52 | fluidpowerpro | Kathi | Holyoke | MN | |
| 53 | Resonator | Jeremy | Wausau | WI | YES!!!!!! |
| 54 | flatrock58 | Mike | Carrollton | GA | |
| 55 | terrifictimbersllc | Dennis | Mystic | CT | |
| 56 | Fearless Leader | Jeff | Detour Village | MI | |
| 57 | stanwelch | Stan | Coldwater | MI | |
| 58 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Gene | Bishop | GA | |
| 59 | GeneWengert-WoodDoc | Barbara | Bishop | GA | |
| 60 | Old Greenhorn | Tom | Catskill Mountains | NY | |
| 61 | Mfrost459 | Mike | Winston | GA | |
| 62 | Mfrost459 | Adam | Winston | GA | |
| 63 | WWDave | Dave | Dublin | GA | |
| 64 | never finished | Dennis | Bigelow | AR | |
| 65 | never finished | Rita | Bigelow | AR | |
| 66 | Dand104 | | Juliette | GA | |
| 67 | Jim_Rogers | Jim | Sneads Ferry | NC | |
| 68 | TWG | Larry | Newtown | CT | |
| 69 | TWG | Linda | Newtown | CT | |
| 70 | RichTired -Good Friend | Kim Bruce | | | |
Well sad to report. I have been trying to cover the 15th and 17th. I have known I would prob. not have time to pull the camper and bring my wife down for a few weeks. She really enjoyed the last one. I actually had 48 hours last weekend and barely got enough coverage that I could fill in the rest. Barring a miracle I will not be able to come. I am ultimately responsible for my hospital. My wife wants me to retire, and otherwise this may be the death of me. i will be shipping some stuff ASAP. I really want to participate and see everyone. I had remained hopeful. If something changes I will let you all know, but I will not hold my breath. they say that is not good for you. ;)
I will be unable to attend...family issue but not too serious.
Gene
So sorry Doc Brian!
You not only add humor, but some very good medical advise. As well as making some very nice wooden items for us to remember these events!
ps You will like retirement!!!
Well hose are two big hits and very sad. Doc, I was looking forward to seeing you again Gene I was so much looking forward to meeting you and thanking you in person for all the knowledge you've shared that got me some very good grounding.
You will all be missed.
It's absolutely fantastic that you folks are making such an effort to get together, spend the money and time to travel long distances to make it happen. Makes me smile. Gets bigger every year.
Maybe you should get a sponsor and then.....NAHHHHHHH! 8)
Don't need a sponsor, just some motivation. It's been on my list for years now and this year I worked a little harder, some odd thigs fell into place and nothing is going to get in my way. I need to see some things and ask some questions to get to the next small level up in my sawing brain. There is probably not a better place on earth to do that than this weekend. VA is a lot loser to GA than NY is but I am very pleased to be going. You just have to want it, then make it happen. Having it as a business expense is handy also. ;D :D
For those who have come to these events before and brought their spouses what do the wives do to entertain themselves while the men are involved in the workshop events? I am afraid my wife is worried she will not have anything to do to keep herself occupied. Anything I can tell her to help put her mind at ease?
Andries, are y'all still on the road? Do we need to pass the hat to get up some bail money? ;D
Just checking up because you seem to be doing the longest drive of any of us and a lot can happen on the road. Looking forward to meeting you, maybe Tomorrow, or Friday? We expect to be in Dublin by mid to late afternoon tomorrow.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 12, 2023, 06:21:41 PMAnything I can tell her to help put her mind at ease?
Yes, tell her that her worries are unfounded. :)
my wife talked quilting and crafts, went on several long walks (exercise). enjoyed a few of the sessions so she felt like she knew more about what I do. She asked questions (to me) about the speakers comments. She really wanted to come this year. Not enough to go by herself. :) good food, company and drinks. Music, campfire. knowledge and comradery. this would have been my third! Doc
My significant other just finished these for me to take to Georgia.
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I'll share!
mh
WV, I'm in the same boat with the wife.. I told her it can't be too bad some of the wives are coming back for another round. I also told here that there are bound to be flea markets around there. That's one of her favorite things to do. Now I just hope I'm right. She's not real interested in the sawmill unless I'm doing something for the house. I'm just happy she has never complained about the new tools I always need around the mill or shop. I got a keeper on my first try. A long time ago.
Quote from: doc henderson on April 12, 2023, 04:48:43 PM
Well sad to report. I have been trying to cover the 15th and 17th. I have known I would prob. not have time to pull the camper and bring my wife down for a few weeks. She really enjoyed the last one. I actually had 48 hours last weekend and barely got enough coverage that I could fill in the rest. Barring a miracle I will not be able to come. I am ultimately responsible for my hospital. My wife wants me to retire, and otherwise this may be the death of me. i will be shipping some stuff ASAP. I really want to participate and see everyone. I had remained hopeful. If something changes I will let you all know, but I will not hold my breath. they say that is not good for you. ;)
I was truly looking forward to meeting you and seeing Gene Wengert again. Y'all with both be missed!
If there is anyway to be there I will. not looking good. My wife loved it in retro, but was not that excited before hand. She went cause it was my deal. She felt like she made a few friends. thanks and if not this time, next!
Quote from: customsawyer on March 23, 2023, 05:31:10 AM
Great Dave. Any chance you can bring your sawmill and demo it for some folks? Not sure if you have it set up in a more permanent situation or not.
I am just seeing this tonight. My Turbosawmill is in a 'permanent' situation, so transporting it is not an option.
Maybe I could do a demo at my place for those interested. I am in Dudley, about 15 miles from you.
/dave
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These are coming with the potato salad. 😁
Well, I have to get up at 3am to drive and catch my flight. See you folks in Rentz! (Or Dublin, either works for me. :D)
Sara Bareilles - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road (Live from Atlanta) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozd2ja7mAgM)
Was really looking forward to seeing you and your wife again doc. Sorry to hear this but I understand as I had to cancel out at the last minute last year. Was look forward to meeting Gene also. Is what it is gentlemen. We'll catch you next go around.
We'll be pulling out first thing in the morning. Be about a 12 hour run from NW Ohio.
Brent
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on April 12, 2023, 06:47:44 PMAndries, are y'all still on the road? Do we need to pass the hat to get up some bail money? ;D
Just checking up . . .
Tom, thanks, all good here. The enforcement boys sniffed me over a few times and found out soon enough that I was a really Foreign foreigner. They sent me on my way when I 'splained my Dutch birthplace, my Canadian citizenship and the rotten USD/CAD $$ exchange rate. Bad for the bail bonds man too. ::)
The road from Asheville NC to Dublin GA was smooth and easy. The troopers were interested in the big rigs, it seems. There were at least six units pulled over at various places; maybe for being in the left lane going down the mountain runs? I wish the LEO's would nab some of the sedans that seemed to have a unshakeable emotional connection with the left lane, regardless of the conga line que'd up behind them. Bad drivers are to be found everywhere.
But, beautiful country! Big hardwoods and endless views of smoky rolling hills. We'd pull over every few hours to let the dog stretch her legs, and I could hear cardinals, vireos and even a tufted titmouse. (let's see if the 'bad word' detector catches that one!) ;D Once we got South of the hills, the soil turned red and sandy, and I swear, there were more conifers than we have in NW Ontario! It's really odd though, the trees all line up in rows. Very well behaved. ;) We can't train 'em to do that in my part of Canada.
Folks are so friendly and are super interested in Manitoba ( the tag on the car), We met a family in Richmond that were fresh out of Australia. Their son asked if Manitoba was the state next door to Montana. I replied that it almost was, but a bit further North and East and in Canada. That confused him a bit. Google maps can be your friend, most days.
Anyway, the life of a long distance trucker is not for me, but it sure was an enjoyable haul. Teea and I rolled up to Jake and Tammy's porch at about 7:30 this evening and visited on the porch for a few hours. Our pups played on the grass and porch, while we compared notes on the highs and low notes in our lives since we last met. Time flies people, make the most of it!
When I volunteered to come back the next day to help set up for Friday/Saturday's Project, to do anything at all, Jake gave me a wink and a solemn look and said: "You're a brave man scooter."
Made the trip worth it - right there!
Forgive me if this was answered already but what time does it start on Friday?
Quote from: Andries on April 12, 2023, 10:38:38 PMthe soil turned red and sandy
Georgia got the red clay hills which is fascinating to us too. Our dirt is brown and black in Mississippi.
Lynn and Doctors H and Wengert, we will miss you at this year's Project.
We will be thinking of you.
Well I hate to post this but I can't make it, kept hoping somehow it would come together but the help situation just won't let it happen. I did have one employee offer to work extra so I could be gone, which was very generous of him, but he just doesn't have the skills yet to hold down the fort. The mill side isn't an issue, it's the farm side of things. Really been looking forward to this for a long time and even two weeks ago it was looking like it might work out but, it won't.
Hope everyone has an amazing time and I was really looking forward to seeing a lot of folks again and meeting so many of those I have not met.
Gene, MM and Doc I was looking forward to seeing you gentlemen.
Had a great visit with Andries and Teea.
We will be kicking things off around 9 on Friday morning. I need to saw a couple hundred 1x4x16 and thought that might be a good way to kick off this years event. Let you folks see how the sawing goes around here on a normal type of run. Figured we could stop every couple of logs and discuss opening faces or anything else some may have questions about. There is supposed to be a couple of big old axe cut sunken cypress arriving to be sawed. I need to set up the 4 sided planer for it's next run, so thought I would demo that. Heck with out Gene here to keep us grounded there's no telling what kind of trouble we're going to get into.
Jeepers Jake, you are up early! I got up to pee at 2 and figured I might miss the alarm if I went back to bed. Will be hitting to road in a little while anyway. Gives me a chance to check the radar and weather anyway. I see the radar is clear as a bell between Albany, NY and Rentz, GA with just a tad of sprinkles south and west of Rentz. We are begin a warm front here and so 11° warmer than Rentz right now, and the front line goes through Albany. It's in the low 40 just NE of Albany.
Glad Andries got in fine. Sorry Southside won't be there. I really wanted to put a face on the sarcasm. :D But I get it.
I wish safe travels to everyone and will be on the road here pretty soon.
I was up early as I decided I needed to get a leg cramp in my right thigh. Been pushing a little trying to get things done and it won't all get done anyway. Now that Andries is here all I have to do is put a new tip on the whip and get to cracking. :D Doubt if we get much more done as we enjoy chatting with each other.
There will be a critical mass of wives. God help us!!!
Well the details aren't important as long as we all can meet and talk, that's what it's all about. I managed to get through security with only one little hitch and that was that my forestry forum hat tripped something in the body scanner and they went all over it and my head. Geez , I thought that hat would command respect rather than scrutiny. :D Anyway I am on my way and Dennis tells me he got boarded also. We had wheels up 5 minutes early so that's a good start. See y'all soon!
move_it move_it smiley_horserider scuba-smiley sail_smiley
On da way!
Hitting the road
I wish everyone safe travels, and personally, sadness because we will not be there.
Had a fire call around 01:00 this morning. Got to bed a little after 03:00. Jill woke me at 06:15 and said let's go so she's driving and we're North of Dayton on our way and I'm gonna catch a nap. Not!! no_no I can't sleep in a moving vehicle.
Safe travels to everyone.
Sorry you won't be there Lynn. Was looking forward to seeing you again
Brent
Tums (calcium carbonate) will usually stop leg cramps in two minutes ... Scooter! :)
Ohhh, that Doc H is quick.
Sitting in Dallas waiting on the next plane. Looking forward to a good weekend!
Well I am sitting in Atlanta airport sipping a beer and waiting for Stephen to land. I hope we can figure out who each other is as we've never met before.
can you take a selfie in front of the restaurant and send it with the gate you are near? he will know what you look like from yor videos or at least the green hat.
Tom, Dennis and I made it to the hotel in Dublin.
We are just going to go get a few things. , beer and water and a chair.
Then we need some food.
Anyone else in Dublin want to join us for dinner
Would love to but we're still 100 miles north of Atlanta. Dead stopped traffic from Chattanooga until the first rest area in Georgia. Saw a shoe with paint marker around it at the 2nd crash scene. We're still 3-1/2 hours out barring any more delays.
Brent
Stay safe!
Like you say Jake, without Gene there things could be rowdy, it's probably better I can't make it as I might of gotten into the white rum, then you would see a completely different Stan. 😉
I had hope for intelligent discussions on kiln drying and now it's going to be voodoo chickens....
Made it!!! 8)
Brent
I'm unfortunately going to have to add us to the list of "not gonna make it". Kelly got up this morning with a sore throat and since there's been a lot of strep going around we don't want to risk infecting others. I was really looking forward to meeting everyone, but unfortunately it's a no go for us. I'll be watching this thread for information.
We be here! Ran into Tom and Dennis right off the bat. Stopped in Charlotte and dropped off one of the wife's cameras for repair then had lunch with our daughter, GS and GD. Life is good.
Thursday was prep day, tables were set up and lumber customers dealt with quickly. It rained a fair bit but it's so warm that nobody paid much attention to it. Besides, there's so much roofed area that finding a dry place to socialize was no problem at all.
FF people have been dropping by and getting early introductions in before The Project (with a 'Bama accent :D) begins tomorrow.
We had a terrific bbq porch lunch prepped by 'Chef Caveman' and caught up on life's events.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/E7C50E71-2295-4F1E-B621-DC9F7C1EA8E3.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681436689)
The two log dogs have tired themselves out and have promised to be on best behaviour - because there're too tired to be anything else. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/7E31131C-9B11-4D8A-A43E-D8F10677D23A.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681436691)
Jake has an impressive inventory of logs on hand and this weekend will be full of information, best practices and great food.
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That is one Cadillac bbq Jake!(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/BE9545C4-BAE6-45AE-A296-87D29EEC27B2.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681436990)
Looks pretty fun!!! Thanks for the update!!
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I will be there. Got a late start due to some spousal requests, but I'm just hitting the pillows at the Hilton down in Valdosta, GA.
If all goes well, I'll be up and in the woods at a local WMA east of here at sunrise to try and snag a gobbler before driving the 2 hours to Rentz to join you fine gentlemen (and ladies). The 2022 success rate at this WMA is 0% though so don't expect smoked turkey tomorrow. I expect to arrive onsite mid/late morning.
Safe travels everyone.
Hi everyone,
Unfortunately my wife and I will not be attending as well. We were planning on driving down but because of some unexpected expenses we just cannot make it happen... :( I promise, I will make it to one of these events at some point.
Thanks Jake for putting this together. Looking forward to seeing some videos and pictures of the event.
Thanks again!
Will Houghmaster
Have a great day!!!
Hey, are these what you guys are talking about?
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I found them here in the motel. Haven't tried them yet.
Made it too Jake's, looks like a beautiful day for makin' sawdust! 8)
OG: I don't think those 'instant grits' made the grade either.
They were passable, but apparently not the good stuff. We'll keep trying!
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I found some water for our host - stay hydrated in this scorching heat folks!
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Here a great thing. Jeff had this photo of Danny smiling while Anchorsealing a sycamore log during a previous Project here, and Nathan got it made into a framed colored artistic impression of the photo and presented it to Jake at this afternoons dinner.
A few more....
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Looks like a really fun time! Wished we could have went but knew that the dates weren't going to line up with some very important stuff going on. But glad to see the posts of the good times and assume some videos to come
Thanks for the pictures.Would have loved to have been there.
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glad you guys got the coasters, and that a picture was made.
I'm jealous, but I'm wishing you all a great time!
I know I'm having a great time. Even if some of my guest are chunking me under the bus. Not pointing any fingers Andries. As always the things we have planed don't always pan out. When Jason pulled in with that log I figured it would be a great time to let folks see some of the awesome logs that I get to open up and see. There was plenty of jawing going on. They got to see me almost not unload it, to getting worked over by the chainsaw when splitting that log in half. We have a little more than half left and will get it knocked out today while I have all the extra help.
Thanks to those that are pitching in. It sure is a lot of work but with everyone helping it doesn't put to much of a load on any one of us. The picture and the coasters are great. Thanks to those that made it happen.
My my, Jake.
You timing was unbelievable!
The LT70 was fired up and the crew was milling roof strapping, which was the order of the day, when this golden semi pulled in carrying some golden logs. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/D3E983BA-94DF-474D-96DA-DC3C14CEFCCC.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681523080)
A dramatic entrance for sure.
The unloading was just as dramatic because the long timber needed was inside that long sinker log.
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The zoom boom was max'd out with that lift, but Jake finessed it. A round of applause from the watching crowd was well deserved.
Here's some shots of the rest of the day breaking down that log and also of Garry Steinbeck giving excellent in-depth tutorials on the BMS250 band sharpener.
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A very heartfelt and touching tribute to Danny Hamsley was made by Jake just before we all sat down to supper.
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Danny's absence was deeply felt by all.
it was one of the best projects and i have been to them all except for the fact that Danny was not there a bit sad for me.The gold pete was mine since it was new .I restored 80 % of it and sold it to my good friend Jason Miller who finished it .The restoration is on here but it has been a while.It went to a good home. Thanks again Jake for providing a place to gather.
Slider, I remember her that restoration post! I'll have to take a closer look at that truck today; it sure looked like a nice rig.
I would love to see more names with the pictures. ???
I see that Jake has one of them Carolina Low Country Hippy Goats running around the place😁
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Jake & Tammy,
Thanks for hosting such a great event and allowing me and Becky to attend. We had a blast!
Jeff,
Thanks for setting up the forum to allow such a diverse group to become friends and family and get together for things like this.
To all the members I have met in person/face-to-face before,
It was great to see you guys and ladies again and I sure hope it is just one of many times we get together.
To the long term forum members I finally got to actually shake hands with and talk with face to face this weekend (I won't try to name everyone because I would leave off an important name or two and the offended party would probably mail me a mullet or dead carp),
I had a great time with you and hope to see you all again. It was the most fun I have had in a long time. Becky was complimenting all of the guys and wives to me at dinner a while ago and telling me how nice everyone was to her and how down to earth everyone was. You will never know how much I appreciate that.
What a great gathering. From meeting a few new faces on Thursday evening to the bonfire Saturday night it has been an experience I'll remember fondly for many years.
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A serious stack o blades
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FOOD!!
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Thanks to all for the many hours of preparation and planning.
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Heading to the airport now. Just wanted to say thanks to Jake and everyone that helped with the event. It was great meeting everyone and I can now say I have more friends. Going back to snow flurries today but hope to be sawing again soon.
What a great time. A million thanks wouldn't cover the gratitude I feel towards all of those that pitched in and helped. Every time I raised my head up from my task at hand, there was always someone going around working and helping. I was thinking back to one of the first projects when I was trying to do the cooking and the sawing at the same time. Yes I messed them both up. I don't know of a single person that was here that didn't help in some way.
It was absolutely awesome to have Danny's family here. It means so much to me that they would go to the trouble to come. There was lots of great "Danny stories" being told and I'm confident that he was there with us. Ole Furby showed up as soon as he could and he takes a little stroll down where I'm clearing with the excavator. What does he find but a beautiful arrow head. For those that don't know, Danny had a passion for them and a large collection. I didn't even know I had any on my place.
This project went as smooth as one could ask for. The food was beyond great. Thanks to Julio and all of the ladies working to make that happen. There was plenty of learning and sharing going around and that is what these things are about. My friends, y'all are the project and it was awesome.
Awesome! 8)
Another great Sawing project has ended.
I'm glad everything went so well and that great pictures have been shared. I'm sorry I missed it, but it landed right on my 48 hour shift at work and I couldn't afford to use the vacation. If it happens again next year I will make it a point to make it. I would have liked to see some of you again and to meet others in person for the first time.
I haven't seen mention or photos of the plant identification class, which was a detailed broad sweep of the local trees and plants.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/601C061B-16B5-4291-9351-993499DBFD9F.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681644175)
DodgeyLoner and Caveman led the class which was in-depth and "plain language useful" at the same time.
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I guess you'd expect that from a professor of dendrology and an FFA instructor.
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Jake, our host, was generous with everyone that asked a question. Here he is with Moosehunter and David from Dudley GA looking at opening cut sequences on a pine log.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/C1631C2C-4FC0-4C68-A496-95331F32F3A2.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681644176)
Also, my quest for really good grits came to a definite, final and complete stop on Saturday morning.
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Great grits!
In the words of a wise and famous man:". . . . and that's all I have to say about that!"
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Over and out, thanks again, Jake and the Forum for creating these truly memorable days.
Teea and I are on the road again, heading North by Northwest.
I came and enjoyed the great Southern Sawing Project. No wonder it's called a project , huge logs, to large for the throat of Jake's Mill, Jake splitting the log in half with the chainsaw.
Sawing roofing strapping, sharpening blades, identifying different wood species.
This was an absolutely great event that I have in the past only read about.
I have been on the FF for 20 years or so and I actually met people that I have only conversed or read about all these years.
Cedarman who I have finally met and we laughed so much, my gut still hurts.
Andries who was telling us stories of chasing and tagging whales through the Arctic! WOW
So many stories and interesting people [I have typed a profane word that is automatically changed by the forum censored words program I should know better] a wealth of knowledge!
All I can saw is so many Sawyers and wood lovers who have all had other careers and now make logs and Sawing and Wood their new careers .
Don't ever stop , keep moving and enjoying.
What an Absolute Thrill 8)
The southern hospitality is second to none. Thank you to all the women who pitched in and helped make sure we were well fed .
To that great big log that rolled in on Day 1 . Jake that will always remain my #1 memory of this 1st Sawing project for me.
I almost didn't make it until Cathy asked me to look at my drivers license and my age. You better go as who really knows if you get another chance.
Well I came and I will make every effort to make more events!
Thank you Jake!
Thank you Jake for hosting another wonderful sawing project.
Also thanks to everyone who cooked, cleaned, and participated to make this event so successful!!!
And what a log!
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This was a once in a lifetime treat for me to see such an old and large log sawn into boards and two large timbers.
But first, Jake had to split it with a chainsaw. My arms are still sore, and I only watched. :D
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The first big timber.
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We got home a few minutes an ago, and I wanted to post some pics. Thanks again to Jake and Tammy and all who helped and attended. The best Project yet.
Start of the first morning, with everybody gathering at Jake's mill for the day's fun.
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Here is Jake teaching a bit of advanced Sawmillogy. For those who don't know, Jake does as much as 2.5 million board feet per year with a Woodmizer, so when he talks, people listen.
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Another wide angle of a bunch of people at the saw shop.
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These are Danny's family showing up, they were the Guest of Honors. They got to hear a lot of great "Danny" stories, and we are all proud that they attended. It was a memorable moment that many of us will not forget. Great people.
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Of course no Project would not be complete without a bonfire, and Jake knows how to build a BONFIRE! No, these are not stadium lights. The good thing was there were no mosquitoes, they would just explode in midair from the heat.
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I even got to spend a little time in Jake's excavator, doing a little ditch work. It's a sweet machine.
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Thanks Tammy and Jake for inviting everyone into your home!!
I would like to add that I no longer do the production that Robert mentioned. After moving all of my equipment home I have so many other tasks that take time away from the mill. That and the fact that I'm getting old. I appreciate his confidence in me but those numbers seem like a lifetime ago. He did forget to mention that I kept him from getting my excavator stuck.
What a find at the 2023 Sawmill Project Honoring our Friend Danny Hamsley - YouTube (https://youtube.com/shorts/Hi9xNrMMtVw?feature=share)
Sheesh Jake, that crack at Robert . . . and you call me out for throwing you under the bus? 😂😂
It was probably YellowHammer's precision work on that archeological site of yours that allowed Ole Furby to find that ancient arrowhead. 😁
Quote from: Jeff on April 16, 2023, 06:06:21 PM
What a find at the 2023 Sawmill Project Honoring our Friend Danny Hamsley - YouTube (https://youtube.com/shorts/Hi9xNrMMtVw?feature=share)
That's pretty cool and amazing!!
I recorded the entire dendrology class given by @caveman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12883) and @Dodgy Loner (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=5533) . It aint a lie that this was a highlight for me. Trouble is, eveything else was too. Jake, thank you my friend. The project gives me personally the chance to get some at length visits with my forum family that just is not possible at the pigroasts.
Danny was there with us. He is always with me. Getting a chance to visit with Terry and Amanda and Chris and other family members has helped my heart immensely. This was my chance to say good by, I love you, and I will see you again my friend. We will take that walk in the U.P. we planned on doing one day.
In case you've never been to Jake's sawmill and yard, here is a shot of his sawmill area roof:
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I asked, so I could tell you, that roof is 90' wide and 106' long.
Shortly after we gathered there on Friday morning, the "big log" arrived:
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I didn't hear how long it was, but the butt end got cut off, as well as a little off the top end so that the finished piece was 38' long.
Others have post pictures of the fork lift trying to lift it off the trailer. I asked the truck driver: "how did they load it?" he said that a fork lift on one end and a skidder on the other end and he backed under it. Estimated to weigh over 20,000 pounds.
Just as we started lunch on Friday, a short shower came blowing in:
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After that.
First, Jake set the log on the mill to see if it would clear and could be sawn whole:
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It could not and soon we were back at the long mill watching Jake cut that log in half:
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Then he set half on the mill:
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He cut it to the best he could get with the center rot on both ends.
Friday night supper:
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Then Friday night's bon fire:
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That's Jake and the truck driver watching it go.
Saturday, Danny's family arrived.
Here is a shot of Jeff talking with them:
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Saturday, after lunch we had the plant id session:
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Just after Saturday's supper of leftovers, Jake added some slabs to the burn pile, this is the before picture:
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It didn't smoke long and then it was going good:
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And the ladies were all doing a sing along:
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A good time was had by all.
Jim Rogers
Thank you Jake and Tammy for doing all the work that it takes to host a get together like this. My wife and I had a great time. I would also like to thank Gary for the " class " with all the blade and sharpening information. Also, thank you to everyone else that was so free with information to answer questions.
Another great project in the books. For those that couldn't make it I should have a video highlighting the event done in a couple of days,
A great couple of days sharing knowledge and fellowship, @WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) was greatly missed.
What a weekend! To say that I am overtired is an understatement and the plane trip home was not a good one, so I was stressed out and not able to dwell on the events of the last 4 days as much I would have liked. But when I drove home from the airport my brain started processing. WOW, there is a lot to re-run through my head. I wish I had taken some more pictures of folks instead of equipment and processes, but that's always been a problem for me. ;D
First I have to thank Jake and Tammy for being such gracious hosts, enduring our presence and allowing us free rein around their estate. That kind of hospitality is rare. Their place is beautiful and inviting and so perfectly fitted for a gathering of friends, new and old. There isn't enough I can say about how grateful I feel about how comfortable they made a yankee sawyer feel right at home from the first handshake.
Second I need to thank Dennis (TerrificTimbersLLC) for inviting me to share the journey with him. Were it not for that, I would not have made it this year (again) and I very much enjoyed traveling with him. Also Stephen who joined and made a fine 3rd traveling companion. Because of that, the education started for me in the car driving down from Atlanta with the great conversations.
Third I need to thank all the participants who brought even more value to the table. I didn't catch any of the sharpening stuff, but I know that was a huge hit with quite a few. The dendrology session I caught a good part of and learned a lot about identifying species that will never grow in my area ;D but were fascinating to me. Howard brought a bench and demo'ed how he makes them and cuts the legs even. (Howard, I know we give you a rough time on this all the time and you are a good sport about it without fail, but I will say, that worked well and it was a fine stable bench, made on short order. I think some of us just can't muster as much courage as you can to whack those legs.:) :)) But it wasn't only the folks that prepared stuff, the weekend was also enhanced by the dozens of sidebars that broke out all over to discuss details of our trade in depth (those pesky details, explained, debated, and discussed). I saw and participated in several of these and am much the better for it. There was huge value there for sure.
Details I saw here and there had huge value for me. Seeing how that sinker log was handled is something I will probably never see again in my life, so yeah, that was pretty cool.
Finally and also high up on my list was the opportunity to meet and spend a little time with folks I have not met before, I especially enjoyed meeting Andries, a fascinating guy I greatly enjoyed (and I didn't know about the whale tracking until I read it here, dang!) and Caveman and a dozen others. I had really hoped to get more time with Howard and Becky than I managed, but we'll have to do that next time. Also got some quality learning time in with Jim Rogers over a dinner and a breakfast which was a treat. When I shook hands with Robert for the first time it was as if I had known him for a long time and the conversations were very easy and comfortable, like an old friend, which I guess he is. The Johnson's (Trimguy and wife) were great to meet and spend time with. There were, of course many others, and as I said I am really tired and forgetting right now, sorry, I don't mean to leave anyone out, I just can't keep track of it all. I never got to meet Danny but his presence was everywhere as I saw him living on in others, and I don't think you can speak better of a man than to say that.
This will likely sound silly, but I got a really huge kick out of watching those two dogs pal around all weekend like best buddies, holy cow they had fun and I had a blast watching them.
We had music led off by Resonator, and then on Saturday night some of the Gals were getting into it pretty good and seemed to be having a good time. I can't wait for that video.
Anyway, thank you to all the participants, you made it quite an exceptional weekend!
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I did a lousy job of documenting the weekend in photos or video, and I am sure there will be some great videos coming out from the heavy hitters. I do have a bunch of shorts I will compile into a single video, but I need to get a working brain first.
I missed just a little bit of discussion at the beginning due to not being smarter than the record button, but other then that, here is the unedited class other than an intro.
Do you know these trees? Watch these Forestry Experts give you some tips. - YouTube (https://youtu.be/w9YnO_WNf64)
As people know, folks come in from all over the world to the Project, with incredibly varied backgrounds, and experiences. Not just sawing but really varied and really interesting. That's what makes the project special, and I have to say one of the most memorable, humorous, and illustrative examples of this happened Thursday night to me.
So my good Canadian buddy @Andries (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9307) who saws mega timbers and is responsible for building some of the most incredible multimillion dollar log homes in the world that you may see on TV on the Rich and Famous. So I'm from the Deep South, and he's not, and it's no secret that I have an accent and have trouble sometimes understanding non Deep South conversation. However, when he talks, it's time to listen, and I saw he had drawn a crowd around him. It was getting about dusk, and I walked up, he was telling an amazing story that would do justice to Hemingway. However, here's how I heard it with my Alabama ears vs his Canadian accent:
"And there we were, out on the ocean, in these boats that were essentially great big canoes. Rough water. Cold water, ocean water. We couldn't use engines on the boats because (I'm not sure what he said). We had to not overturn and be thrown in the water. We were using some new technology, and we had these gps trackers mounted on (I heard "fins" which made no sense, but I start immediately thinking remote control drones with steering fins or something) and we had a lot of them. We were doing tracking studies for environmental reason all over the ocean, so we had to place a lot of them, as many as we could, as fast as we could. But they were kind of heavy and we had to use these real long poles that had the trackers on one end and counter weights on the other to balance them out. These poles were big and hard to hold." Andries spread both his arms real wide, indicating maybe 20 feet long. The crowd continued to gather, as more people walked up. We were all listening at full attention, this was getting good, and I was missing about every third or fourth word, which was frustrating. He continued on "We had to be real careful and quick, these wheels could spin around and really hurt you, they we always turning. Dangerous work. So we had to be quick, we'd ease up with the canoe but not get tangled up with them. Then when things were just right, the timing had to be just right, we'd lunge with the pole and set the gps tracker on the wheels and pull away fast while they were moving. It would have been no problem at all for those wheels to spin around and whack you and put you in the water real fast! and it would be over like that!" and he clapped his hands sharply and made a big splashing sound. Everybody gasped. Wow. An exciting and to my Alabama ears a totally confusing story! It was killing me, this was a good story and I was apparently the only one who was missing it! So right then, in front of everybody, because I couldn't help it, I shouted "Andries, wait a minute! What the heck kind of wheel was it!? Why were you out in the middle of the ocean risking your lives to set GPS trackers on wheels from a canoe?!" Dead silence. Everybody looked at me. A few people slurped their beers. Andries stopped talking, and looked at me with an expression that I still can't figure out if it was astonishment or exasperation, and he shouts back in his Canadian accent, "I didn't say wheels, I said Wheels!!" So now I'm getting exasperated, so I said again "I know! I know! But why in the world were you risking your life to put trackers on wheels in the middle of the dang ocean from a canoe!!??!!"
You could have heard a pin drop. Then Andries chuckled because he understood my dilemma, and this time spoke slowly and clearly and said "I said "WHALES not WHEELS!!!"
And then suddenly I got it. I literally saw people blow beer out out of their mouths! Whales. He had been on an expedition, in a canoe, risking his life to tag and track whales with a GPS by darting them in the fin with harpoons! I laughed as much as anybody, it all made sense and I thought it was one of the most hilarious and impressive stories I have heard in a long time.
Andies, that was a great story, and one I will remember for the rest of my life. Very cool!
Robert, your story totally cracked me up (and reminds me of this joke...)
A guy overhears two women talking in the bar with an accent. He walks up to them and asks "Excuse me, I couldn't help but hear you speak, are you two ladies from Scotland perhaps?".
The women turn toward him and one of them rudely replies "it's Wales, dumbass!".
He says "Excuse me, are you two whales from Scotland?"½
It was a pleasure to meet all you fine folks, I learned more since Friday about saw milling than I knew in total and putting faces to names was the icing on the cake.
Getting to speak and share a good passion with you all really does give me hope for the skills of woodcraft to pass onto a future generation. The phrase "Standing on the shoulders of giants" comes to mind, and there were plenty of giants sharing their knowledge this weekend.
Hope everyone got home safely and hope to do it again next year.
Remember Robert you have to tag those wheels when they come up for their second time for the really big breath before they go down. Careful not to get slapped with the tails.
I appreciate our gracious hosts, Jake and Tammy. Thank you to all who made the effort to attend and share your knowledge and experience. Everyone's contribution of knowledge and skill was beneficial. John and I left the motel before they would open the door leading to the room with the coffee pot, but we had a good drive home trying to decide which equipment would be next on our list of must-have machines to help us slide a little further down the slippery slope and hopefully make us more productive.
Meeting Terry, Amanda and some of Danny's other family members did my heart and soul good. I appreciate them attending the project. It was sure good to see old friends, shake hands with new ones and meet some FF friends face to face for the first time.
John and I got home, unloaded the trailer and I went in to eat lunch and John headed off to his son's baseball game. Furby arrived early in the afternoon to retrieve a boat that he purchased after Hurrican Ian a few months ago. He left it at my place and brought new axles, springs and hardware to install under the trailer. We had a good time at Jake's project and we also had a good time on Furby's trailer project this afternoon.
I needed this weekend more than most will ever understand.
I've not met any other members yet but somehow I feel I kind of know everyone and even though I'm not sure there's a picture TroyC posted of Howard demonstrating bench construction .A fellow watching (who I think is OGH) has a big smile on his face.A picture is worth a thousand words :laugh:
I had a really really good time.
Things I learned:
It's all Nathan's fault.
Robert will have a new voicemail.
Jake will be drinking a different drink next time.......
and......
Theylll be Mayonnaise on the table from now on.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Yellowhammer, I like the 'wheel' story much better the way you told it.
And, if my Canadian accent can be the cause of beer spouting, well, that just fits right into the story, eh?
😁
Thank you Tammy and Jake for making this possible! It is so gracious and kind of you to open up your house to a bunch of dusty sawyers! These projects are so informative and fun!! This is one place where you can laugh as much as you learn. Each year I have learned something new and met a few more new friends. This forum is so full of wisemen that are willing to share what they have learned. This was my son-in-law, Adam, first year to attend the project. He has been working with me a little over a year now. He was amazed at how friendly everyone was. Each night when we came back to our room he would tell me all he had learned and what we need to do at our mill. This project really gave him a vision of what is possible in our business.
Kyle, thank you for all the prep work you did for the identification class. I can tell you are an excellent teacher. This class was very interesting. Even though I only got two out of fifty right I learned a lot. Look forward to the walking in the woods next year. Gary, the blade discussions were really good too.This is one of the thing I was really interested in. Thanks for answering my questions.
Jake, this was the first time I have ever seen the back wheel of a reach forklift off the ground. You are a true operator! Bet this wasn't your first time with a load like that one either. It was amazing to see the Jake straight line log ripsaw in action. No lazer, no line just a t-wrench and stihl chainsaw. Amazing cut!!!!
Well, thanks everyone for a fantastic 2023 Sawing Project!!! Looking forward to next year!!
Now YH, I'd be ready for communicating with you because I've heard you speak on your videos. This is just another reason I regret missing what looks like an awesome project, I could've served as a dialect translator between Andries and you😂 Although if you were to hear me speak, you wouldn't be able to tell much difference between me and Andrie's speech. I'd be about 7/8 Canadian on the speech scale🤷😊
See though, I've had lots of practice out in Wyoming, where most folks tend to have a Texas type drawl. So I have to modify my speech out to be able to effectively communicate with my family out there. So if I'm with southern folks I change the language dial over to "Wyoming", and get by pretty well😊
I saw a similar situation play out in High School wood shop, where we were welcoming a new foreign exchange student from Australia. The teacher asked the new students, Ben, if he did any wood working back home. "Yeah.", Ben replied. "What kind of wood did you use, Ben?" "Pawn.", Ben relied. "What kind?" "PAWN" The teacher had a puzzled look on his face and asked, "Pawn? Is that a native species?", and finally some of the other students said, "Pine! Pine!"😂😂
Remember folks, in the end it's mostly how we treat our vowels that seperates us😁
I went purely to visit this year so didn't have a lot of pics or video, but I took what I had and just put it all together as a coming attractions for @123maxbars (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=15380) . I'm really looking forward to what he has in store.
20,000 lb 50ft Axe cut sinker Cypress. Glimpses of The Sawmill Project - YouTube (https://youtu.be/uq6r-iUNFdQ)
Looks like an awesome time, glad everyone had a great time. Especially nice that Danny's kinfolk got to meet with the crowd so they got to know how everyone appreciated his help and knowledge over the years.
That sure was a big stick, great job handling it from truck to mill. Like someone mentioned awhile back in the thread, there's lots of roof around Jake's to stay dry and out of the hot sun. ;D Good to see there was time for some plant id. We've got nothing up here much that isn't down that way, but a whole lot more plants than up here. Probably no grey birch down there. ;D
A good laugh reading Andries' and Yellowhammer's wheels to whales story. How the heck does a prairie boy dead centre of the continent, surrounded by freshwater lakes, get to swim with whales? I think there is some Maritime blood in the family tree. :D
Thanks for hosting some good times Jake and Tammy.
For those that don't know, Jake made a run up here around one Christmas when he was visiting with his wife's family in Fredericton. I was still in the old farm house then. I remember him saying, "the trees are some small up here aren't they?" My reply was "the big mature stuff has all been cut, most of the trees are 30-40 years old along the highway." But a 40 year old pine in Georgia is a lot bigger than a 40 year old pine in the north. :D
Great video Jeff!
Jake how old do you think the tree was, how long ago do you think it was cut down and when do you think it was recovered or how long out of the water before you got it
Swampdonkey please remember that was the "ex" wife.
As to the log our best guess is that it weighed somewhere over 20,000 LBS. I'm not sure what that machine will lift. I know I can take the 10,000 LBS rated forklift and set two packs, each of which it can barely lift, on top of each other and the telehandler will pick them both up and walk off with it. The only time I had a actual known number for the weight of a log was one taken down with a crane by a tree service company. The log weighed 13,400 LBS. The telehandler could pick it up and boom out 14' before it got light on the back end. This was without the out riggers down.
WB It would take a good bit of work and still some guessing to get close to the age of the tree. Since part of the center was washed out by the river. The guess is that it was cut down somewhere in the later half of the 1800's but it could have been early half of the 1900's. No way to know for sure. The log was pulled out of the river about 6 weeks ago. Would have been nice if it had lost a little more water before I had to start trying to pick it up.
My question is who called me Buckwheat as the log was clearing the trailer? :D
Sorry Jake, I wasn't up to speed on that.
I have to admit that I did enjoy making @fluidpowerpro (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=55416) scratch his head a little. We do understand now why WM says my hyd. on the extension won't work. With his help we also understand why I'm able to get by with it. Thank you Sir.
Very interesting and impressive seeing the pictures of unloading and milling Jake. That sure was a treat for everyone there!
Quote from: customsawyer on April 17, 2023, 06:21:38 AMMy question is who called me Buckwheat as the log was clearing the trailer? :D
I was standing further to the right from that point of view and did not hear the comment until I saw Jeff's clip. Made me blow coffee through my nose first thing in the morning. :D That was some nice material handing work right there.
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WB. I sat down on the small end cutoff (40" I think) of that log Saturday morning and started counting. The SED cut didn't have a lot of rot and I could extrapolate a bit. I have never seen a cypress tree up close. When I got up to around 260, with all the water in that log and the fuzzy fibers that were almost like a terry towel, plus the tight rings it got tough to count well, so I used the 'rings to the inch' method figuring on average and came up just around 300 plus a bunch. If I was in error, it was on the short side and it's older. Now as others taught me a bit later, Cypress can add more than one growth in a year, so I guess you have to allow for that... somehow. Given enough time to study and make notes tracking back through time you might be able to connect the dots on the large growth rings to various historical weather conditions... or not. ;D The rings would vary as you came out from the center and there were decades of faster growth here and there, but near the end it appears it was in a tight canopy with a lot of competition and the rings were consistently thin, like a pencil line. The wood, when cut, had a very distinctive musty smell.
General knowledge is that they stopped axe cutting in the 1880's, so if you figured the age at around 300 and then added 145 years since cutting (and losing), well I would think that's a fair estimate. Others may see it a different way but that's what I could dope out in in the short time I spent with it. There was too much else going on, otherwise I could have spent an afternoon messing with it.
There was so much water in that wood that is was just about dripping off the boards when they came off, so IMHO that log probably weighed in at a fair bit over 20k. The boards quite literally looked like somebody threw a bucket of water on each one.
All in all, it was an impressive thing to witness first hand. When it was up on the mill the first time for sizing, Jake came around the far end of the mill where I was standing and he said as he passed "Waddya think Tom? You wanna take a whack at this one?" Took me a millisecond to realize he was joking, but there was some fear in my heart for that millisecond at even the small thought of 'taking a whack' at it. I just said I would be happy to watch him show us how it's done, obviously, he did that well.
ThankYou Greenhorn for the absolutely fantastic report!!!! I was rolling laughing at your last sentence about Jake saying you want to take a whack at it and your heart pumping! I would of felt the same way😂. Glad you all had a blast!
Back to reality for me this morning. Maybe my new slight South Georgia tan will protect me from THIS FLIPPING SNOW!!
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Jeff, it's like backing up, to get a running start. ;D
Quote from: Wlmedley on April 16, 2023, 10:23:13 PM
...... TroyC posted of Howard demonstrating bench construction .A fellow watching (who I think is OGH) has a big smile on his face. A picture is worth a thousand words :laugh:
If you are talking about the 5th photo in his post, yeah I am the one in the safety green shirt with that slop-eating grin on my face which was pretty much there all weekend. ;D To the right from me is Brent (DoubleTreeBelgians) and to his right is Howard (WV sawmiller). The fella on the other side of the mill I am a bit confused on his exact name (very sorry) and I don't want to guess, but we had some good conversations through the weekend too.
The back story on that photo is that Howard, Doc, myself, and several others having been talking benches here on the forum for years now and we all have our build approaches and techniques that work for us. Somehow over time we got to yanking Howard's chain about his leg cutting method (which I have tried with much more exciting and destructive results ;D) and he was such a good sport about it that we couldn't resist the instinct to lay it on a little thicker as the years went by. So this was Howard's golden opportunity to educate the unwashed heathens and show us how it works for him. Of course it went perfect as expected, but we couldn't resist dropping in some comments all along the way, which he handled with great aplomb. I am really sorry Doc wasn't there for that because his snappy repartee' would have been the icing on the cake. Good on ya Howard!
In that same series of photos that Troy posted the last one is my favorite because it sums up why I was there and what I enjoyed the most. A circle of just a few men (L to R) Robert, Jake, Andries, and myself and I got to listen while they talked. All weekend I would walk around and stand on the edge of these circles and just listen and enjoy the stories, teaching, learning, questions, and other good stuff that popped up on a whim. This was where the gold was hidden for me.
This morning, I actually watched the Dendrology video clear through as its 40 minutes long. I had not before as my intent was an unedited video so ya'll were there just like us.
Those guys were great!! I hated the commercial interruptions! :D
Quote from: Walnut Beast on April 17, 2023, 07:22:45 AM
ThankYou Greenhorn for the absolutely fantastic report!!!!...
WB, knowing this crowd as I do, I knew somebody would ask for the details, and heck,
I wanted Needed to know for myself, so when everybody was watching Jake cut the second half on Saturday morning I went over and sat on that cutoff like a little kid and started counting, I talked to Jason (the feller what brought the log in), and some of the other southern boys about cypress to understand it better. So everything I related above came from their experience, not mine.
As for Jake's little joke, it might help to understand my mental frame all weekend. Despite my age and experience in many things, this situation put me back in the brain of a 14 year old boy seeing wonderous things for the first time that were overwhelming to his small mind in many ways. When Jake made that comment, just for a split second, I felt exactly the same as when I was 10 and an uncle put an ax in my hands and said "Waddya say? You wanna take a whack at a couple of these trees now?" :D
As many years as I've been working around sawmills and in the woods, when that airhorn blew, and I turned to see that beautiiful Golden truck approaching, my jaw dropped. That was an arrival I will always remember. It was thrilling.
Sure good to see a bunch my friends.
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My 1st thought was a train whistle, it sounded just the whistles I blew at work. Where's the train? Then that beautiful truck and that log 8)
Jeff , It really was thrilling!
Jake, I would never call you Buckwheat. Oh tay Scooter!?
I had a friend with a gutter company. His helper never moved too fast, and his nick name was Hot Rod!
Quote from: customsawyer on April 17, 2023, 06:21:38 AMMy question is who called me Buckwheat
Well you know it wasn't me since I wasn't there, besides I wouldn't be that mean!
Too Buckwheat I mean! smiley_jester
It's like everyone had a good time and I wish I could have made it. :'(
I don't care what Jake says about you Doc, You're Otay!!
Good one Spanky! :D
Well we made it home about 10:30 last night. Looks like any way ya cut it, it takes me 13 hours. Road trip home was uneventful for the most part and Atlanta was much better go towards the glaciated north than south. Yeah it's snowing here in NW Ohio and I just fired up the Heatmor outdoor wood burner.
Thank you to each and everyone at the project for the lessons, great food, story's and camaraderie. As I told Tammy when we were leaving, thank you for "The southern hospitality". We couldn't have felt more welcome.
Jake I'm sorry I missed out on your grits and I wish I'd never mentioned the grits I ate at the Fairfield Inn hotel. To be honest I may be a northern country boy but I do like grits.
Jake, Mr Robert, Jim Rogers, Kyle, Gary, Howard, and anyone else that I garnered information from I thank you all from the bottom of my heart.
To all the ladies thank you for all the food and preparation and mostly for making my wife Jill feel right at home. When we pulled in her first comment was I don't see a single lady here and she was concerned but all for not. Again thank you.
Joy and Martha, you 2 know how to have fun. Don't be posting that video of the unplanned karaoke Joy 😂. Resonator and Jeff thank you for the music. I think Fluidpowerpro's wife enjoyed it too.
Tom, thank you for calling Doc and giving me the chance to talk to him.
To that I'll call it a great time and what looked to me as a very successful project. Thanks again to all,
Brent and Jill
DbltreeBelgians
The grits were awesome. I had seconds. :)
Just got home safe and sound! 8)
2,387 miles driving... (but who's counting). :D
Will write up a report later, first got to unpack and check the mail. Oh, and we got multiple inches of snow here and it's low 30°'s now.
:snowman: smiley_christmas :D
@Resonator (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=37685) did a fine job entertaining with his music at the project. Very talented musician.
If Jeff had seconds on the grits, they must've been good. I do recall his tag line being "grits survivor" for a time😂
If you didn't like those grits you have officially worn out your welcome. :D
Just kidding. Those grits were the way they are supposed to be. It breaks my heart if some Yankee didn't try them. It did leave more for us that enjoyed them though.
@customsawyer (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1861) I just wish I'd have gotten to your place a little earlier Saturday so I could've had some. Like I said the grits at the hotel were so so but obviously no where close to yours.
My loss.
Once again I want to thank you and Tammy for being such gracious host's and to all the others that I got to meet or see again the pleasure was all mine.
If and when you have another project Jill and I would love to attend
Brent
I'm sorry, I was probably the Dang Yankee or one of them. :D We just did not know enough to be there early. For the record I had grits every morning down there (except Sunday when I didn't have breakfast until 2pm) and they were, um, edible, but not much and had clumpy hard lumps here and there. Some day I will be lucky and get converted like Jeff and Lord knows I keep looking and trying, but for now there is no joy on that score. Too bad for me I guess.
A Dang Yankee? :D :D :D
I always tell folks grits can't be made by a novice, a Yankee or a statistician. There isn't any set time to cook them. Yous justs gotsta know.
Well OK, I am not a dang yankee (assuming you know the legal difference between a yankee and a dang yankee) but I did feel a little shame for not making that opportunity a reality for myself and feel I have stumbled in the eyes of my peers. ;D
OG - don't worry - you're not a Dang Yankee; just a Yankee.
A Dang Yankee is one that comes south and stays! :D
Those grits were about as good as they get...... right up there every bit as good as my grandma's grits.
Quote from: scsmith42 on April 17, 2023, 07:55:49 PM
OG - don't worry - you're not a Dang Yankee; just a Yankee.
A Dang Yankee is one that comes south and stays! :D
Does that make me a Dang Yankee?
Jim Rogers
Currently residing in NC.
Hmmm, well, um....... Say Jim, how was your drive back home?
Quote from: Jeff on April 17, 2023, 03:49:22 PM
The grits were awesome. I had seconds. :)
Before you know it you'll be moving your stuff down here. Grits will make you do that you know. 🙂
Quote from: Jeff on April 17, 2023, 03:49:22 PM
The grits were awesome. I had seconds. :)
Yes they were!
And the Cane Syrup was wonderful too.
/david
These grits were true stone ground, home made and were clean, white and with the cane syrup were some of the best I'd eaten. I reminded me of one of those home made bowls of oatmeal with maple syrup or honey Grandma made for us as a kid. They were that good.
BTW, in comparison, about an hour earlier, I opened the serving pot at the breakfast bar at the Fairfield and saw the grits in there and almost turned green. Yuch. I've seen sheet rock sparkle that looked more appetizing.
Welp, what can I say, it was a big trip but well worth it. Jake knows how to put on one DanG fine party!
Here's a few pics to add to what other's have posted:
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Friday was supposed to start with Jake just cutting pine 1x's, but as we know bigger sticks rolled in...
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Here SCSmith and Andries are discussing the big monster's fished from the waters, about to get filleted. fishin-smiley
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Here Jake is ripping the big log length wise, this took a while... ;D
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A couple of the shorter sinker logs are seen here, next to Jake's inventory of cypress logs. For someone like me who'd never seen cypress, this was an impressive sight to be seen. :o
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I was fortunate to be able to help "tailgun" the lumber coming off the monster log, with a young man that had been in the military and worked for Danny as an apprentice before he died. While the wood was absolutely soppin' wet, most all of it clear. Also had lots of vertical grain, growth rings tight as grooves on a record, and boards up to 17" wide. :o
I think Danny would have been proud. :)
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Had to check out the sawdust pile of course. :D
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And the blades... gotta have sharp blades... lots of sharp blades... and all the machines to make them sharp. ;D
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Some of Jake's slabs and lumber inventory, I think every shed had some board footage in it.
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We were also able to see the showroom where the dried and planed slabs were stored, lots of WOW pieces in there. :o
Jake said some of Danny's customers are now coming to him to buy wood, so in a way Danny's still helping him. :)
Want to make sure to say a big thank you to Jake and Tammy for opening up there place to us, and to all the people who worked to put it all together!
It was like a big picnic, party, family reunion, and sawing demonstration show all rolled into one. I was impressed with the professional operation Jake has, and came away having learned, and wanting to learn more. I was pleased to make new friends, and shake hands with people I've only known online.
And yes, I did try some of their grits... and they tasted pretty good! Especially with the butter and cane syrup they provided. food6
And thank you to those who came out Friday night to listen to me play, it was a blast, and made the trip worth it in many ways. Also thanks to Jeff and Nathan for playing guitar some, you guy's made my very beat up old Martin sound good!
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Last but certainly not least, I printed and framed this pic of Danny with a rented bass guitar at Jeff's place in 2019. Tammy put a white rose next to it, and we set it out to greet everyone that came to the project.
Danny had exchanged messages with me after he couldn't get to the pig roast in 2021, that he wanted to get together and make some music to record. His untimely passing came before we were able to do this, but this event gave me the opportunity to play music on the same front porch where he had played many times before. This brought it full circle for me, and meant so much. I also met his brother, sister, and daughters at the event, and exchange stories of this kind man that touched so many.
I'm looking forward to next year if all the pieces come together, and well what can I say... Just an old sweet song, keeps Georgia on my mind. smiley_guitarist
I dunno guys.... @thecfarm (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=436)
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I've been following the grits. ;)
No one has said how good they are for me and I should try them. You don't know what you are missing and so on and so on. ::)
That's when I speak up and say what I have to say. I've heard all that talk about stuff I don't like growing up and I still hear it now. ::)
I am a very fussy eater. But easy to cook for me for. ;D
Bread, meat and cheese is my diet. ;)
If I would of been there, I would of tried them.
Would not be the first time either.
Looks like a good time was had by all. 8)
Don't feel bad cfarm, you have to remember the southern people will eat anything. Even crayfish that up here we use for bate. ;)
Almost like red hot dogs. :D
I thought red hot dogs were a Maine staple food. ;D
It maybe "meat". But what kind?? ::) :o ???
I only eat a few a year.
And that is at someone else's house.
Like me and Atlantic salmon. Can't get wild sea run anymore, won't eat that farmed stuff. steve_smiley
Quote from: SwampDonkey on April 18, 2023, 06:20:57 AM
Like me and Atlantic salmon. Can't get wild sea run anymore, won't eat that farmed stuff. steve_smiley
Not even grilse?
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on April 17, 2023, 08:22:05 PM
Hmmm, well, um....... Say Jim, how was your drive back home?
Well, I left the motel at 7:45am, got some gas and headed east on RT16. Not a bad ride at all. Very low traffic.
Got onto RT95 north bound and was going fine till about 25 miles south of "south of the border" where I ran right into a bumper to bumper slow down that added 1 hour to the drive.
Got home at 4:45pm.
It was a long ride.
But worth every minute of it due to all the events at the gathering.
Jim Rogers
Quote from: moodnacreek on April 18, 2023, 08:33:48 AMNot even grilse?
All catch and release, Doug. Barbless artificial fly only. You couldn't keep any fish last year.
Right now they post the catch and release limits for the spring fishery, summer fishing limits will be posted later.
We got home last night just a little after midnight. Started in Fla, through GA, SC, NC, Va and finally hope to WV. Decent traffic the whole way.
We left the workshop and went to Lake City Fla to see my 97 y/o aunt and cousin. I was amazed at the good roads and no traffic on them Saturday afternoon. We had a good visit then went to the Stephen Foster State Park and Museum in White Springs Fla. It was good to see the Suwannee River again.
We stopped in Charlotte just in time to go watch the 4 & 6 y/o at the YWCA at their swim class. My 4 y/o GD told me "Grandpa, no joking around here because swimming is serious business!" I guess her swim coach had drilled that into their head real well. :D We had dinner at Outback with them then headed home. I swear the bloomin' onion and they dark bread were way better than the steak.
I'll repeat we had a great time and it was good to put so many faces to names I have seen on the forum for years. Its hard to explain to others the relationship with such a diverse group of strangers who have become family and friends through the forestry forum. I look forward to see you all again and meeting the rest in person as the opportunity presents itself.
So while the project was on and a day or so before and after nobody posted anything in the thread " Did something dumb today"
Coincidence?? Hmmm smiley_jester
Didn't make it to the sawing project may qualify? :'(
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I assume that "No concealed weapons" means you have to openly display them. Sounds like a great place to socialize!
We went snow tubing last year and the staff there was saying no knives or sharp objects. My son in law and I both said we didn't have any. As we're walking away I mumbled to him that's all I got when the shooting starts. He laughed and said he had his too. :D
What's it mean if your called a Yankee Dootle Dandy ?
Nate has a first video up. :)
Quote from: Bruno of NH on April 18, 2023, 06:05:58 PM
What's it mean if your called a Yankee Dootle Dandy ?
It means someone is extravagant with over the top flair. :D
Well that's nothing I need to worry about. :D
It means you can dance and sing like Jimmy Cagney.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Andries on April 18, 2023, 04:03:41 PM
Something about travel makes you mind your p's and q's.
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I would barely notice that sign, but the one just to the right of it would grab my attention. They had a lot of rules there!
I think it was Wyoming years back that had an unrestricted open carry law, but if you wanted to conceal carry, you needed a permit with some kind of reason. The logic made a lot of sense to me on some levels.
As the project unfolds there is always some stuff going on behind the scenes. Like getting a truck to bring a log at the right time. ;D
Well this year I received some special bacon, summer sausage and smoked cheese. All I can say is that the bacon is some of the best ever. Put it on some bread with jalapenos and mayo. Mighty fine. The fact that I had to cut it to suit myself should speak volumes. Thank you my good friend. Not going to mention your name as it might mess up my next order.
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One of my friends was a little mad that I wouldn't share.
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Quote from: Old Greenhorn on April 18, 2023, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: Andries on April 18, 2023, 04:03:41 PM
Something about travel makes you mind your p's and q's.
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I would barely notice that sign, but the one just to the right of it would grab my attention. They had a lot of rules there!
I think it was Wyoming years back that had an unrestricted open carry law, but if you wanted to conceal carry, you needed a permit with some kind of reason. The logic made a lot of sense to me on some levels.
Kinda like nuclear weapons, they are not much of a deterrent if nobody knows you have one.
Jake, good looking bacon - Chief has good reason for that glare. 😁
Tom, I wondered about all the rules too.
My Canadian interpretation was that the bouncer will toss you if he wants to. No real reason required.
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Awww man, I had to go back to the car to change out of my low-rider jeans and white tank top. High brow place this Nashville. 😉
When I made my first trip to Wyoming in 1973, open carry was perfectly legal and very normal.
Just put up the first of two videos from my view of the project. This first one covers my trip down to GA, a short tour of Jakes operation, Jake using his awesome battery booster on his back hoe and most importantly it shows his dog, Cheif's jumping ability. The next video that shows the two days of the project I just finished up and will be posted tomorrow evening. Also for those of you interested in Jake's battery booster I just ordered the same one on Amazon today and I will share the link of it below
Battery booster used by Jake in video: https://amzn.to/43RulGi (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWhzTXZhQm1fQnFqYm55LWZHS25FQi04eFNSUXxBQ3Jtc0trTHNRcFF5ZlFYTVh5OUVUZERpUUdmX0xndjE4QklBdDdveTR5OFlPQmNCOHhVbGVhR1Vmb2NkZjFaS0stbW1mWk9PN1ZSSVVVcjlzT0ZGNG9SYURDMGJta2xtcWhBYzhjMmwyLVU1LXlkMktDazZjSQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Famzn.to%2F43RulGi&stzid=UgyqFn51YVAY2jAImgB4AaABAg)
If the link doesn't work you might be able to copy and paste it
Link to the first video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP4VNhdU5aM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP4VNhdU5aM)
I'll vouch for that big NOCO jumper pack. We used one over the last two winters and it has plenty of power. Where it's especially handy is when a battery needs a boost, but it's out of booster cable reach.
As usual, great video Nathan - looking forward to Part II.
I would love to have a proper link or the NOCO model#. ??
I got mine at tractor supply.
Quote from: Magicman on April 18, 2023, 08:53:43 PM
I would love to have a proper link or the NOCO model#. ??
try this one, same one I bought
https://amzn.to/43RulGi (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWhzTXZhQm1fQnFqYm55LWZHS25FQi04eFNSUXxBQ3Jtc0trTHNRcFF5ZlFYTVh5OUVUZERpUUdmX0xndjE4QklBdDdveTR5OFlPQmNCOHhVbGVhR1Vmb2NkZjFaS0stbW1mWk9PN1ZSSVVVcjlzT0ZGNG9SYURDMGJta2xtcWhBYzhjMmwyLVU1LXlkMktDazZjSQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Famzn.to%2F43RulGi&stzid=UgyqFn51YVAY2jAImgB4AaABAg)
Yes sir, that baby will jump my 300 HP tractor, simply amazing. Andries - did they have a $5 fine for whining too?
Very nice video, Nathan. You da man.
Quote from: Southside on April 18, 2023, 10:08:29 PM. . did they have a $5 fine for whining too? . .
LOL
Does $5mm roughly translate to 22cal?
Not thinking that they're interested in paperwork - more like heave-ho!
Great Video Nathan!
Post Project Blues:
The Googler Map took us to Atlanta, (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/1926653A-39A2-4A64-BB20-B17FCAD2C56F.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681874155)
How do big cities do it? A traffic jam on Sunday afternoon. . . and when you get clear, no rhyme or reason for it. >:(
We got to Chatanooga KY. and took in the view from this park. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/DD1E1F93-88A4-420E-A17A-943DB03C333A.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681874535)
Windy, small roads passing some pricey pricey homes mansions, each trying to get the best view of the town and river way way below. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/870B5A36-034E-40E7-9DE3-326030D95420.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1681875367)
And boy, what a bunch of history! Memorials, plaques and markers at every turn. We got a good education on the American Civil War.
On we go, further North to Nashville TN. This city has a party mood hanging in the air. It seems to be chock full of country music hopefuls and university students. The campus was really historical and had some really huge white pillared buildings. This one caught my eye:
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The name at the top of the portico is familiar to us FF members, how'd you do it @YellowHammer (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11488) ? :o Very impressive !
Northward bound tomorrow, no surprise there, eh?
I have a Hulkman jump pack
Actually 2 the biggest one and the next one down.
They are awesome
I have used mine for 3 years
I carry them in my trucks
The big one jumps Big Bob on the cold mornings
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The thing I like about them is that with all of the computer stuff on newer equipment you remove the risk of frying something in the jumper vehicle.
Quote from: customsawyer on April 19, 2023, 06:41:57 AM
The thing I like about them is that with all of the computer stuff on newer equipment you remove the risk of frying something in the jumper vehicle.
Yes and they have built in safety circuits so they won't damage the new equipment.
They shut down if something isn't right.
I used mine to jump a customer's truck and he thought that it was a multimeter. When I told him to crank, he said what??
Mine is a 3000A not that 4250A.
The official 2023 Project video just went live on my channel. This was actually the 4th project video I have made at Jake's place and was the first one unfortunately that Danny was not present. So in light of missing my friend I had to put him in this video at the end. I am sure that @customsawyer (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1861) and @YellowHammer (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11488) would agree the spirit of this project and the work I put into this video is 100% dedicated to the memory of our friend. He would have loved to have been there for the sawing of the big Cypress. Hope you guys enjoy the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjx8kjYy9RU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjx8kjYy9RU)
Jake,
When you take inventory I am afraid you will find you are missing two redbugs. They were stowaways to WV on my right foot/ankle. Actually I don't see how one of them got past my boot top. I will check to see if they are Ga Redbugs or got on me at the Stephen Foster Park down at White Springs Fla on Monday.
In either case you are welcome to them back. >:( :D
Nathan that is one mighty fine video. When I heard Danny's voice at the end it brought me dang near up out of my chair.
I expressed several times over this past weekend how humbled I am. For the folks (AKA my friends) to go to the lengths that they do just to watch me run a sawmill. Truly unbelievable. I was honored to have each and everyone of you to my home.
Nathan, regardless of the YouTube stats, that video is the best one that you've produced. Excellent work!
I'll agree with that statement, Andries. It was very well done, and I'll watch it several more times, especially the end.
Great video Nathan. smiley_thumbsup
Nathan that was awesome Sir
Thank you
Nathan Thanks you for the videos. I rarely watch Utube videos. But they were great! I got to show Cathy what a 1 man Custom Sawmill really looks like! Great ending.
Nicely done Nathan! An event like that is impossible to cover in it's entirety because there is so much going on at once. One would need a full crew of folks with cameras to cover it all. You did a great job of getting the best of it.
I took a bunch of shorts and was hot to trot and get them together with some photos. I even shot an introduction clip when I got home Sunday night. But I was so tired that I could not think very well. Knowing yours would be the gold standard, set the bar high and I put it off to work some on other stuff and think about it. I wasn't wrong. ;D I had about 4 hours in it yesterday, mostly fighting slow software, before you released yours and now I am dragging my feet again. I will get mine out, but it won't be pretty. I figure it's handy to look back on in years to come though and for folks thinking about finally coming to one.
I came home with some great experiences, a lot to think about, and sunburned arms, neck, and ears. You did a great job capturing that experience.
Thank you Nathan for producing an excellent video (I watched it twice). You captured the essence of the sawing project. Danny would be proud. :)
Wonderful video Nathan.
Last night I was putting some end sealer on several logs and thought of that painting. Probably be what I think of every time I do that from now on.
We got home Tuesday evening at 6:11 after driving 2901.5 miles. (per trip odometer)
My mileage includes my visiting with one of my brothers, one of my sisters, visiting with a FF member, visiting with two friends, and getting lost a few times. Putting a street sign on the opposite side of the road and behind a larger sign got my dandruff and ire up. If I got a hold of whoever ordered that done said individual would of gotten a stern talking to.
After reading the postings to this thread since 4/9 I have no new words of thanks that I can think of that haven't already been said.
To Jake and Tammy: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HOSTING AND INVITING DANNY'S KIN.
I enjoyed everything and I'm wishing the hosts and all attendees the very best.
Gerald A. Bouchard (GAB)
Nathan,
I so wanted to be there. Your video helped me feel just a tad bit of what it would have been like to be there with everyone. It looks like it was a wonderful get together and successful sawing event. From 1,500 miles away, I appreciate Jake and Tammy hosting and everyone involved.
Thank-you
@boonesyard (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=39257) The Project is always great, but this was a humdinger.
We're taking the long way home and have made our way to Champaign IL, heading your way in ND.
My brother sent me this picture of his suv, taken this morning:(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/8AC010D8-535A-42C9-8DC1-C869B3DDB81C.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1682000898)
Good thing I left Teea's pink snow brush in her car when we packed to go. :) :snowball: :)
Honk your horn when you get to MN to warn me your heading through.
Well, it took me the better part of the week and about 6 hours of actual work to put together my feeble offering as a video. I will never be as good at this as guys like Nathan and the others who pop out near perfect stuff in short time. I don't have the gear or software. But I thought a different view may be enjoyable by a few folks.
For what it's worth:
The Project 2023 FFV - YouTube (https://youtu.be/QZzSdJOjVm4)
Sorry I couldn't manage a better job. Truth is I was a bit overwhelmed with the networking opportunities that were all over the place in small groups discussing common problems and solutions we all have. In addition, there was all the equipment to look at and study the mods and ad hoc solutions that make everything at clean functional as well as very clean.
Did I mention I had a good time? :D
Nice Video, you got a lot of footage I didn't get, well done!
Well, one more done. Here's mine.
You'll Wish You Were There, Sawmill Project 2023 - Big Logs and Good Friends - YouTube (https://youtu.be/qrmc5V3gq_0)
Nice one Robert. Glad you caught that clip with Danny's family. I missed that completely. Not sure where I was so I'm glad that was in there.
Good Job @YellowHammer (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11488) awesome seeing other videos on the same event. That ending sure did get me, man I miss him. I was sawing some Cedar today and had him on my mind. I hope he knew how important he was to people, I sure did rely on him a lot over the years.
I appreciate all of the videos that have been posted. I'm glad Robert and Nathan included clips with Danny at the end - it is fitting as he was on the minds of a lot of us last weekend. I think a lot of us leaned on Danny for a lot of things. I'd call him or send him questions via text or on the forum about dendrology, wood i.d. or even how much to ask for something like quartersawn sycamore.
I tried to make this a tribute to both Danny and Jake. A celebration of the big Forum family and some of the most incredible sawing of logs that I've seen, but still to recognize the absence of Danny at this Project, which was felt by all. I kept remembering how many times I walked around and heard people say how much they missed Danny. Then, as I was editing the scenes with the family in front of the sawmill, I saw three of Danny's people put their hands on each others shoulders, one after the other after the other, like a chain, almost out of the scene in a comforting way (did you see it?), and it was extremely powerful to me. Anyway, I hoped to make this video so that many years from now Danny's family could watch it and remember what an impact he made on so many of us, and so I hope I have done that. Anyways, I hope it means as much to you folks as me.
Looks like you have a good employee, Jake, Looks to be on the ball.
That's hard to find today.
Thanks for all the video guys. next best thing to being there. those of us that fell out to job or family issues really appreciate it. Doc.
Tom, Nathan and Robert - thank you.
Video production is a lot of work, and much more than just waving a camera around. It's a perfect example of needing to be in the right place, at the right time, and with the right equipment. It takes a lot of commitment and heart, and you've shown that you have that, in spades.
@Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) Tom, loved loved loved the wide shot you got of Jake sawing the 38ft. Off to watch Robert's now. This is so great seeing the different perspectives. Heck, I got way more out of watching the Dendrology video I made than I did trying to capture it. I'll watch it a time or two more, cause I aint in it!
Great videos guys. Robert awesome job capturing his family and the moment of me receiving my picture. With Danny playing that song at the end it sure got my allergies acting up.
These events will be long time remembered, Jake, even if some of us might not make it to one. Great videos and photos. A lot of effort goes in, and hopefully lots of good memories. :)
One of the many things I am sorry I didn't get and apparently nobody else did either was those two pups playing all weekend. Man that was a joy to watch them run around and chase each other like two 8 year old kids, they really enjoyed their visit with each other!
I think there was a little bit of the pups at the end of Nathan's first video. I know Chief was just as worn out as I was.
Actually, i got them playing for a bit on my video attempt that I posted while everyone was still traveling.
20,000 lb 50ft Axe cut sinker Cypress. Glimpses of The Sawmill Project - YouTube (https://youtu.be/uq6r-iUNFdQ)
You Guys are killing me. I'm on the road sawing and there is no way that I can watch any of the videos. :-X
I am excited and looking forward to this weekend. :)
Jeff, you're right and I forgot about that one, but didn't notice the pups until I gave it another look. Thanks. It just blew me away how those two had never met and just fell in with each other. When I first got there I thought they were both Jakes dogs. I can see Chief's viewpoint, I mean what's not to like about visitors that come all the way from Canada to play? ;D ;D :)
Excellent videos from all you guys!!! Really enjoyed them!!!
First class operation Jake!!!
Thanks for the videos to all. A great way to remember the pro-ject and show my significant other what it was all about.
I am a little disappointed that I was caught on film working, now it's going to be expected of me all the time!
mh
Trying to spell pro-ject the way Andries says it. any help?
Anybody else notice how Jeff started hiding behind the post as I'm about to set the log on the mill. It's like I make him nervous.
@moosehunter (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1405) you just know its way more funny if I spell it, right?
That heavy Canukian accent of mine cracks Jake and Robert up every time.
'Maddie' is the redhead, swivel-hipped, foreign gal that calls Chief her boyfriend.
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She was wind surfing in Nashville, looking for her beau - no luck. That town is full of rhinestone cowboys.
Thinking she might be able to draw Chief in with perfume/musk, she went shopping at the Rural King near Chicago. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/6BEE73AD-BCA3-4782-8587-8DEC09785F11.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1682118476)
She still hasn't found him. MIA.
We checked out the firearms section, (looking at all the hardware that we don't see back home). . . . and there it was, a Dang FOX up in the rafters! She forgot all about Chief at that moment and raised the alarm.
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Maddie had met "Scooter", a big marmalade cat that likes to lurk up in the rafters on Jake's porch. That cat's idea of being a feline hostess was to drop down to the floor and start an instant Tom and Jerry cartoon. That stuffed fox on the wall go her all hot and bothered.
There actual two projects going on, the hooman one and the k9 one.
Jeff wasn't the only one................. :)
Well, another shout out for Jake and the wonderful weekend! Enjoyed meeting some new friends and seeing all the camaraderie that occurred at the Project. Thanks again Jake and Tammy, well done! A real class act! Also a big thank you for all the others behind the scenes, planning, cooking, preparing, cleaning, etc.
Another thing off my bucket list- making a bench. Thank you WV Sawmiller for the demo. Got me motivated enough to get the tools out and cut some wood.
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Waiting on the glue to dry, then cut the legs. So easy, half hour, might make a few more 8)
Actually, I was maneuvering to get behind Nate because he was two handing cameras, and in my mind I could see one of those mill cylinders popping, and that log come rolling at him. I wanted to be able to be in a position to help. Probably not in a million years, but Ya never know. I saw a lot of freaky things in the mill. I had the head rig I was leaning against start turning when one of the tailgunners shorted two starter wires together inside a conduit going across the floor with a steel stock shovel while shoveling sawdust. Flipped me upside down in the track wondering if I was whole.
Jeff, I don't blame you for your caution. Anyone that stands in a bad full body pinch point needs somebody watching out for them. I was at the end of the mill when he did that. ;D
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Troy, nicely done and very nice tenons. I have the same tool and can't get those results any how. I saw Howards and we are pretty close to identical. Can't wait to see how you make out when you level the legs. ;D :)
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Andries, I don't think you have a heavy accent, hardly noticed it, ay. Maddie is living large and living the dream. As they say in the music business, 'ride the wave girl!' I truly did have a great time watching that pair. She is probably gonna figure a way to get you guys south again. I wonder if Chief misses her as much, or if he slept for two days after we all cleared out? All I do know it it was pretty neat to see them get on the way they did.
Troy,
Looking great. (I feel like a new grandaddy!) I see you chose to use wooden wedges so you had to saw a slot before hand. The good thing with wooden wedges is you can use contrasting color for character. Don't let these negative Nellie's worry you about trimming the legs to length. Just be sure the bench is securely clamped, you use a good sharp blade and a slow speed. You should see the cut-off pieces sit on the blade when it passes through just like it did at Jakes. :)
As Tom said those are real good looking, smooth tenons and way better than many I have made/used.
Keep those pictures coming.
Another great sawmill project. Thanks to Jake and Tammy for opening their home for the weekend. And thanks to all those who cooked and prepared meals. It was an enjoyable weekend getting together, meeting new people and seeing all the new toys Jake has added over the year. All the videos were great! I didn't realize all the little things I missed. You always pick up some great ideas from the many talented sawyers that attend.
Watched Nathan's video again, I see it's up to 222,000 views (and counting). Danny would be proud. smiley_thumbsup
Since I couldn't be there, I appreciated the video as well Nathan, thanks. I enjoyed yours also Robert.
Jake, you have an impressive operation there and it's clear you have a passion for what you do. Very kind of you to invite people from the forum to spend time at your operation.
Wow, I have finally been able to catch up on watching the videos. Thank You Guys.
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It was neat to see this picture that I took of Danny in 2014 used as a Special Tribute to him. He will always be in our Hearts, often on our Minds, and Never Forgotten.
That rascal could grin a opossum out of a briar patch.
@Andries (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9307) , how goes your travels? Did you teletransport home or are you still on the road?
I enjoy seeing Maddie's adventures. The gun shop is a classic!
mh
Quote from: Andries on April 18, 2023, 11:57:24 PMWe got to Chatanooga KY. and took in the view from this park.
After Andries went to
"Chattanooga, KY", he may not ever get home nor know when he gets there. :D
Good eye MM, you caught me out.
If you start calling me 'Magellan' from now on, that's ok too.
We have made it to Fargo, ND and I know that for a fact, because @boonesyard (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=39257) told me so. (The snowdrifts were a clue.) After a great visit and tour of their mill shed and woodworking shop, we're heading out at top speed.
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We may not know where we're going, but we're making great time!
All in fun my Friend. I certainly agree that when you travel that far you need to squeeze all of da juice outta dat punkin or da slipper won't fit. :)
We had a wonderful visit with Andries, Teea and Madie. Boone was pretty sure he was in dog heaven while Madie was here. He put more miles on in 1 hr than he has all month attempting to prove he could hang the moon for her 😉. Thanks again for stopping by.
It breaks my heart to hear that Maddie is running around on Chief.
Glad you are having a great trip.
If you was up by Fargo, you drove by Bernstein's and he might have been pushing snow on the grader. :D He's on the Sheyenne river, SW of Fargo near Barrie.
@SwampDonkey (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1009)
We'll keep a sharp lookout for Bernstein and his motor grader. He's a character!(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/7008CBBC-0A59-4F1F-B4F1-53651FB1BA45.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1682430289)
@customsawyer (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1861)
Let Chief know that Maddie will always be a North Country girl, but the three day visit was a blast! 😂❤️😂
It appears to me that Maddie has a sailor in every port. Good on ya gal!
"Now there's red haired blue ticks all in the south, love got me in here, and love got me out".
(Ol' Red, Blake Shelton country song). smiley_guitarist ;D
Andries after the way that he jumped in the middle of my chair last night I would have let you take him with you. I was bleeding from both arms and my forehead. She is a good looking gal even if she isn't very faithful.
Isn't that one of the first lessons a young guy figures out?
The good lookin' ones can get away with bein' fickle.
Chief is one very physical boy, having an argument with him over the chair wouldn't be fun. :snowball:
Jake, how old is Chief? I had heard a lot about his breed, but he's the first I've met and it seems that picture I had was not anywhere close to what that dog was like. Surely he's dedicated to you, but very well socialized and open to having strangers in his territory. He minds you as well as any dog could, he's very impressive to me.
I still cannot, and will never, get over how well he and Maddie got on. Like two little kids.
As far as his 'enthusiasm' last night, perhaps he is missing a playmate and was taking it out on you and trying to get you worked up to run around with him?
Chief is a God send. He is almost 1.5 years old. His breed is known for being bad or worse. Most are not very social. I was around this breed growing up in Colorado herding livestock, so had reservations when I rescued him. Needless to say all of my concerns were a mute point, as I couldn't ask him to be better around people. His one draw back is that I can't trim his toenails due to the quick growing out to the tips of his nails. With this condition it is easy for him to scratch and draw blood. I don't mind it on me but so many of my customers are older with thin skin and it worries me. I've trained him to load up on the SXS when a customer comes but some of them think they have to pat their chest and bring him close. It normally doesn't end well and I have to explain that if they would behave than he would.
All in all I couldn't ask for a better dog around my mill. His girlfriend is a little suspect at this moment.
Yeah, I have old skin (but no dog now) and my cats can make me bleed pretty easy when we 'play'. I did have two dogs in my life that trained up and were as smart as Chief. One was really my Dad's dog ( a Shetland Sheep dog, smart as a whip) and the other was a Female Black Lab we got as a pup before my daughter was born. She was as devoted to me as I was to her and I don't think she was on a leash more than 3 hours in her entire life, she just minded instructions very well and was my constant companion. She did not do very well when we were separated though and got very anxious. I loved that dog with all my heart and still miss her 25 years after she passed. I don't think I will ever have another animal in my life like her.
So when I see a dog like yours, or Andries' Maddie, I know what you guys have and how sweet that is. I envy you guys.
(But yeah, Maddie needs to find a way to ease up on that 'love 'em and leave 'em' style she has. Maybe just be a little more subtle or something? That would be pro-gress, eh?)
Tom, that kind of pro-gress (your way with words is soo Northern) might be pretty darn difficult, even for Maddie.
She was treated rough during her early months, and kennelled when she wasn't getting any attention at all. We got her at seven months and she was nothin but nervous anxiety.
She would jump out of her skin at the pop of a toaster or drop of a boot. We make a point of never shouting at her cause it turns her into a bowl of jelly. Hand signals, consistency and a pocket full of bribery treats seems to work. Shes got a way to go yet, but she may never get over that shy demeanour with people she doesn't know. Chief brought out the best in her. He's a gentleman - for an Australian ! :D :D
Boone, the standard poodle at Boonesyard, didn't know what hit him when she popped out of Teea's car. He's much taller than she is, but a nine year old male chasing a year and half gal was a bit much for him.
He sure ran himself ragged trying though.
She's a red-head through and through - they should come with a warning label. :o
There's nothing like a good dog at the mill yard .
It's just not the same when they are gone.
When I go to town for fuel now and don't have my side kick its just not right.
When we got Boone, I was looking for hunt drive for upland hunting. Watch what you wish for cause I got that in spades. He goes everywhere with us and is very well socialized but independent and not playful, a bit dog dominant but not a fighter. We've never seen him react to any dog the way he did with Madie when she popped out of the car :o. He was immediately enamored and they never stopped playing until she left running-doggy. The redheaded spell got him, he's still recovering.
According to Chief she's intoxicating. He's still not over her.
I learned many things at this project but one that I want to point out is speed. I've had my mill 10+ years and most anytime I have spoken with a woodmizer rep about a sawing problem I was having they would tell me I wasn't sawing fast enough.
I watched Robert's video on speed and the sawdust output. I have spent many hours trying to "see" the sawdust exit.
Then I watched Jake saw in person. I could see the sawdust exit. I could hear the sound the blade is supposed to make , IN PERSON, up close.
Last Saturday was my first chance to saw sense the project. I knew the saw settings/ adjustments were as close to perfect as possible, I had gone through all of them this winter.
I sped up. Then a little more. I could hear it. I think my two helpers thought I had lost mind. I had a grin from ear to ear!
I'll bet I'm sawing (travel speed) 10 - 15% faster.
That's what makes the project what it is. That one thing made the trip to Jake's worth the drive. Everything else is a bonus.
mh
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Yeah, x 10. I think I had my one thing just 2 minutes after stepping onto the customsawyer estate. Some we can never achieve, like flat ground to spread out and work and organize, but other things I will be improving and implementing for years or until I'm done, whichever comes first. :D
We have all read enough of each others approaches to understand how each thinks, but to see it in action and ask small questions that make it jell in our heads is where the value comes together. I guess for me, it was knowing stuff we want to execute, at some point, and then seeing how much effect it had and realizing, we HAVE to do this now. Not doing it is costing too much time and effort. Sometimes I need to be hit over the head. This event was several whacks on the head for sure.
I learn at each project. Last week I bought some roller tables (not set up yet) and an edger will be coming soon. Previous projects sent us home looking for a hydraulic mill, wider planer, bigger trailer, telehandler and the list continues to grow. For a couple of part time guys, each of these improvements have made us more efficient and profitable.
The fellowship is worth the trip and expense for me, and all of the other stuff is gravy.
I have been thinking about the first project I attended, which was several years ago. I drove up alone and had not previously met anyone from the forum in person. WDH and I had messaged and texted several times about forestry i.d. stuff. I figured if I was not welcomed or it was too awkward, I'd just get back in my truck and drive home. Danny (WDH) greeted me before I could even park my truck. Jake's project has been at the top of my list of things to do ever since.
It's funny how things work out. JMoore and I joined the forum over 13 years ago, hoping someone would tell us what sawmill to buy. No one did, but we have gotten a lot of guidance over the years getting our lt-28 to saw right and after purchasing the lt-50, we were back asking for assistance. "Monkey tight" on the blade guide arm was the best advice (thanks Yellowhammer).
I appreciate the opportunity to meet so many folks from so many diverse places with similar interests. I also appreciate the effort and expense that so many make to attend. We are still playing catch up, but it will work out.
Moosehunter, I'm glad you heard music with your mill when you got home. When the band sings, it a magical thing and life is good.
Caveman, sometimes "monkey tight" is just good advice for a lot of stuff.
I don't think there has been a project that someone hasn't asked me why I saw so fast. The main reason is that I can. Additional reasons include the fact that is the "sweet spot" for the mill and the blade. It always brings a smile to my face reading how each of us gain from the project. The crazy thing about this project is that we didn't even have time to fire up a planer, the Lucas, or any of the other equipment that was in the plans. I've often wondered if the fellowship or the learning is the bonus?
Jake, doesn't it help saw fast when the water lube is already inside the log?
Does that mean we should soak our logs first?
You are supposed to saw fast, as fast as you can. That is because you are wanting a bigger chip size [sawdust particles] This means the saw teeth contact the wood less, stay cooler and stay sharper.
My normal sawing speed is at the highest engine RPM, (i.e) any increase in sawing speed will cause the engine to loose RPM's.
The ideal sawmill will have more power and feed [speed] than the saw will stand. If you can hold the saw line but run out of either then you will never know your limit. And your limit [feed speed] might be more than you think. Different saw styles and tiny adjustments can sometimes allow more feed.
customsawyer:
My answer to your question: "I've often wondered if the fellowship or the learning is the bonus?" is both and then some.
Caveman:
Your comment: "I figured if I was not welcomed or it was too awkward, I'd just get back in my truck and drive home." That is pretty much how we felt like when attended our first pig roast. Within 5 minutes we were more comfortable than at some family reunions. Felt the same way at Jakes every time we've been there.
In general FF members are the bestest of the best.
GAB
I cut as fast as the 52 horse Cat will let me, On the sweet spot as Jake says,
That will tell you real fast if the blade is sharp too, same thing with the sharpener.
Peter you mention fast with the sharpener.
That is what I took home from the Project was running that sharpener Fast!
Gary shared great info about the particulars of sharpening and everyone there shared great info.
Jake had a neighbor there, started his own sharpening Buisness. Jake please put his name here as it has slipped from my brain.
I spent quite a bit of time talking with him and him showing me what he does. Well it surprised the heck out of
Me what he said
He runs at full speed, He told me he likes to see 'fire' (with a southern accent) lol on the back side of the wheel with the oil pumping. I am testing 5 blades I did yesterday at full speed and will see how they saw tomorrow.
Yes, I don't have all day to play with blades. I do 10 or more in an hr.
I set the dial around 2 o'clock. and go around one time. In the winter with frozen logs 2 times to get the point back.
But, I'm not cutting in the winter no more. ;D
With the CBN, or any sharper, there is a limit at how fast the sharpener will physically grind.
The CBN wheel assembly is lifted by a cam, but there is nothing to "push" or force it down, except it's own mass or weight. So it's very possible, because I have done it, to set the cut depth too deep and the feed rate too fast, and the CBN wheel will not remove the gullet or back shoulder fast enough and will not finish the grind before the cam comes around and lifts the wheel from the cut before the CBN bottoms out. So it will look like a full grind, but it's not. This can cause several issues. So check it occasionally and know the limits.
That's where the sweet - spot comes into play. ;D
My plan it to recreate my old sweet spot because my plan is to reinstall my old Turbo engine back on my sawmill. There is a significant sawing speed difference between a turbo and non-turbo engine.
I had the blade singing in some walnut today. I love that sound, clear as a bell. I asked several people in some of my videos what the actual note was and a few of them said it was "E Flat." I don't have a musical ear but do think it sounds pretty close.
Stephen that young man goes by Brooke. If folks are looking for him on Facebook his name on there is Kevin Browning. One thing to remember is that he is sharpening with a bigger WM sharpener that uses a 8 inch wheel. It has more power, the outer diameter is turning faster and I would bet it has more weight. He will be able to do things with his sharpener that I can't with the BMS250. It would be like someone with a LT35 trying to saw as fast as I do with the LT70. I've only sharpened about 20 blades with mine so far and right now I'm setting the feed speed dial at about 2.5. Much above that and I can hear the wheel losing speed and the motor straining. I could grind lighter and faster but then would need 2 passes. I am still experimenting to see which one works better. I have learned that on the first sharpening of a blade that it needs either a heaver grind or two passes to clean up the outer corners of the set teeth. Those outer corners are the sweet spot of the blade as they do most of the cutting. They are where the blade meets the wood.
If some of you remember the tree length pine logs that was out close to the paved road and laying parallel to it about a 100 yards before you got to my mailbox? They are in Robert's video just before he pulled in my driveway. Well we just spent 5 days sawing them and stacking the lumber with stickers. There was 3 semi loads in that stack and I cut 23,194 BF out of them. There wasn't any scale tickets with the loads but my guess is there would have been about 28 to 30 tons of logs in each load.
Yes, Have to make sure you grind from point to point.
Thanks Jake , I will look him up. We discussed the speed of the big 8" wheel versus our 5" wheel of the 250. Peter now confirms it. There is a sweet spot to speed for sure. As you all point out it, it is getting that point sharp on both sides and flat across, the sweet spot. What I do like is sharpening as many blades as I set by speeding up the sharpener. There was always a backlog, waiting for the sharpener running on 2.5
I was told years ago we should be sawing around a foot per second through the log. The challenge is finding a blade to match your engine and mill the allows that.
I run my mill right on the sweet spot
The 38hp Kohler has a sound when it's flat out. Sawed many 34" wide pine slabs today right on the sweet spot.
A couple of other points on these sharpeners. Those little knobs are mounted by folks like us. The 2.5 that I am using might be 4 or 1 on someone else's machine, depending on where the knob was tightened down to the shaft. Another thing is that the blade clamp will only hold the blade so well. If you are grinding to fast there is the possibility that as the stone is coming down it can be slightly pushing the blade forward on the down stroke. Well if the stone is pushing the blade instead of grinding the face of the tooth then it will be changing the grind angle on the face of the tooth. It can even move it as far as a negative angle. The faster you are grinding the harder it is going to be on the grinding stone too. I can see going to fast causing the stone to fail earlier than it should.
My old jump box died last week and would not even crank my lawn mower so....
My new NOCO Jump Box (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WZFPXFM/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_25CGPXF0XBE1NV7D0515?linkCode=ml1&tag=outofthewo034-20) came today.
Yes, it is an overkill for any of my starting applications but I don't always use my jump box for jumping off vehicles. There are odd occasions when I am off of the sawmill contact strip and want to use the hydraulics i.e. release the clamp, etc. The old jump box was lead/acid so no problem. The lithium units need to "see" voltage so my other lithium jump boxes would not work.
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This unit has an "override" function which will allow me to use it for the hydraulics and also to power my 12 volt air compressor. I am well pleased. thumbs-up
Mine came last week :)
ps
I used it to charge my phone at a campsite. My wife saw me taking it out of the bag and said how much did you pay for that thing?
You got'r made now. ;D
Thought y'all might like to see the insides of those other logs that came in on the truck with the big one.
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I've been waiting for "the rest of the story" on those logs!
Mighty purdy wood
mh
Love that clear grain! Thanks for the pictures!
Mighty fine! smiley_thumbsup
A mighty fine whack of cypress lumber there Jake.
They log yellow cypress, aka Alaska cedar, on the west coast but I never see the lumber anywhere. When I worked out there years ago they said it all went to Asia for big dollars. Apparently temple wood. I remember the smell of it when cut, it had the smell of peeled parsnip.
Jake,
How thick did you cut those wide slabs? I assume they will become conference tables or such. Do you know the intended use yet? Awful pretty wood! Thanks for sharing.
Wow, that's awesome.
Jake I saw on your FB post what you did with the butt cut log. I had talked to your client and that is what he was thinking. I think it will look cool on a nice patio. I'd love to see how that comes out after finishing and how they finish it. I shudder to think how long it would take me to finish that thing off, but it's gonna look awesome. I'd do the top in epoxy and the rest in il based poly, but cleaning out and finishing the rot hole will be a bear!
Well here is the pictures of the butt end of the big log we sawed at the project. The customer just wanted the top and bottom flattened so he could make a table out of it. It turned out 32" tall and 40" wide by 8' long. I took the first cuts on the Lucas. Then took it over to the WM mill to square the other cut to the first face. To clean out the middle and pretty up the sides I think I would stand it up on the flat cut end and go at it with a long wand on a pressure washer. Build a scaffold or something around it and get after it.
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If you look close you can see the boards I put under it so I could slide it over a little more to make the cut.
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It sure was a honor to get to be the one to open these ole grand logs up and be the first one to see what is inside of them. All in all they turned out really nice and have some spectacular grain in them.
Stunning
Quote from: customsawyer on May 27, 2023, 04:20:32 AMIt sure was a honor to get to be the one to open these ole grand logs up and be the first one to see what is inside of them.
I agree with Jake's statement above. I have been fortunate enough to saw one "Axe Felled" Sinker Cypress job:
More Sinker Cypress (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=74726.msg1132218#msg1132218). note: This sawing topic goes for 4 pages.
Good thing about hiding in the house, is I get to go back and read subjects like these again. Hurricane gave me a light day.
Edit: Forgot to mention that Nathans video has hit a million views. Congratulations Nathan.
Quote from: customsawyer on May 27, 2023, 04:20:32 AM
It sure was a honor to get to be the one to open these ole grand logs up and be the first one to see what is inside of them. All in all they turned out really nice and have some spectacular grain in them.
Enjoyed this a lot. Cypress is one of my favorite woods, we used T&G cypress in our great room during our remodel/expansion about 25 years ago. There is still a pleasant aroma in that room from the wood and people comment on both the look and the nice aroma!
I see Nathan did a follow up video recently with more footage of sawing the giant cypress log. smiley_thumbsup
I'm hanging out in the house mostly today as well. I have enjoyed watching Nathan's videos of several of the projects.
Jake,
What is the marking crayon that you use? I think you told us at the project but I suffer from a bad case of CRS.
mh
The crayon question was not directed to me but I always use a lumber crayon to establish my cant target and lumber/slab cutoffs.
I use DeWalt in the Winter and Dixon in the Summer. The reason for the differences is the weather. DeWalt will actually melt in the hot sun but does very well in the Winter. Dixon will hardly make a mark in the Winter, it is excellent in the Summer.
I asked Jake about his because it made a nice strong mark on wet wood and my dixon's don't always do that (too hard, as MM notes). Unfortunately I have forgotten the name Jake gave me. I don't think they were Dewalt, but could be. I know HD sells dewalt so I will grab a couple next time I am there and try them. I buy Dixon's by the box but they don't work well on some bark, wet slippery stuff, or in the winter when everything is frozen.
Jake will pop in here with his answer any time now. I know he came through the storm fine after checking in with him last night, and I see Caveman is good too. I hope all our members came through as clean as possible, that was a nasty one.
Two old Crayons are Eberhard and Staonal.
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The DeWalt in the Winter and Dixon in the Summer serve me well.
I use blue, green and red sidewalk chalk to mark logs. I should probably use the crayons, but sidewalk chalk is cheap and there always seems to be some at my house.
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The pencil pull with the red crayon is a regular fixture with me. I found that it works better for me hanging from my shirt collar.
I think Jake is not watching this thread too close, he must be making up for lost storm time. Time to page @customsawyer (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1861) so we can find out about his choice in crayons for sure. Also Jake has a neat little way of attaching it to himself as does MM. Lynn how do you attach the crayon to that string thingy? Got a close up? I use a crayon holder, but that is kinda big and a pain to pull in and out of a pocket. I did make a nice gizmo for one to mark Mushroom log lengths and firewood cuts sometimes but not good for marking notes on logs. I'd like something like what MM and Jake use. Light and out of the way.
My Home Depot has the pencil pulls:
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Take the pencil out and the crayon fits in the rubber socket. I never use but about 1/3 of a crayon in the pull.
Jake wears his on his right shirt pocket whereas I prefer the left side. He reached straight up and I cross-draw.
The nylon string does wear out so I keep several extras.
Well ok then. :D
After my last post I started thinking how to make one. I had a couple of those spring retractor things that I used for ID badges when I worked for the man. I think I used them up hanging mini-tapes off them when harvesting mushroom logs. But I did find a piece of BUNA hose I had in the shop that held the crayon perfect. I looked all over for a string retractor for a half hour, no joy. Then I recalled I had one designed for small microphones from when I was doing a lot of communications work, can't find that either. Now I see you post and it is likely what Jake also uses, we shall see. I'll just stop at HD and get some dewalt crayons and one of those to test out. Simple, and easier than the time it takes to make one. The question of cross draw or strong side will be something I have to work out on my own. ;D I have used both in a different 'discipline'. Not sure if/how that applies to crayons, but I do prefer having it on my hip rather than my chest. :D Oh and yes, for anybody else reading about this minutia for the first time, I use about a third of a crayon at a time, even 1/2 is more than I want and I usually have a piece in my pocket at all times. I find the Dixons survive the wash and dry pretty well. Pockets, not so much. ;D
I just went and checked, those gadgets are about 3 bucks and in stock locally, so I will have to stop there and suffer the Saturday hordes at HD when I do my next beer run and grab a few of those and some dewalt crayons to try them out. I see they have Yellow also, I never thought of it before, but I but that will show up better on bark than red. I might try those too.
The downside of all of this is that I may not have the red stains in the right hand pockets of all my work pants anymore and will have to think pretty hard to make sure I don't put them on backwards in the morning. ;D
The grease crayons they make for marking cattle work excellent although you can't really make a fine mark with them. I use them when I need to mark firewood for length, sometimes for bucking logs on the landing, etc.
These are the ones I use-
Limited-time deal: All-Weather Paintstik Livestock Marker, 1" Diameter x 4" Length, Fluorescent Orange (Pack of 12) https://a.co/d/2FFpXmi
Or maybe a nice walnut crayon holder. :D If it were the good SS ones like used for chalk, then they would last forever. Can't have that. :D
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Seems to me, the wooden threads would soon wear off. Kind of gimmicky looking.
Now you're talking my language. ;D
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For me, it needs a clip like the old chalk board ones, not a buckle.
I can't remember the name of the crayons I'm using right now. I will check later and get back with y'all. The pencil pull thing I buy by the bunch. I found mine online and even thought about having the company put my business logo on them. After looking at the cost I didn't do it. I used to go through enough of the crayons and pencil pulls that I bought them by the case. I have a bunch left over from my time at Hazlehurst and will likely never have to order again as long as I don't forget where I put them.
Looks like I am not alone down in this rabbit hole. ;D
I have a couple of those walnut ones, they work OK and you can find them for under 10 bucks (just not with the Dixon name on them). They work ok, but a little bulky and the string doesn't help much. A pocket clip would be a big improvement. One lives on the mill, and the other I modified with a tape measure for marking mushroom logs. The threads last just fine so far. The aluminum looks nice, but I ain't spending 20 bucks for a crayon holder.
I found that Husky sells a crayon holder pull but they want $50.+ for it and given the lifespan, I'll take a pass on that too.
I think the most elegant solution is what Jake and MM use, but of course I will find out soon enough.
I tend to be a little heavy handed, so when I put the crayon in the pencil pull I put a little bit of super glue around the end of the crayon. You have to dig it out with your pocket knife to replace it but it keeps it from falling out while you are trying to mark a rough surface.
Early on I tried the wooden crayon holder pictured above but it simply did not meet my need.
I keep several of the pencil pulls on hand which is why I was able to picture a new one. I buy them whenever/wherever I see them. The first ones were orange with Home Depot on them and I have a Craftsman.
FWIW, Dawn dishwashing soap DISSOLVES lumber crayons! So don't store your crayons where the sawmill lube tank might leak on them. I imagine other lube recipes will do the same.
Between this thread and the sidebar text messages it generated I am learning a whole lot of new stuff today. ;D
Never paid much attention to folks' marking tools. I guess I figured that is standard equipment for people who work. Good posts!
Back in my logging days, I wore chaps in the woods. And outside of my chaps I wore a belt that I had my spencer logging tape hung from:
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The tape was hooked to a key fob strap:
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Which went around the belt.
Next to the key fob was a "key back":
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Attached to the key back was my lumber crayon holder with a leather strap through the black plastic end cap.
With a red lumber crayon in the holder.
Most of my work was done with gloves on and it was easy to hook the tape on the butt of the tree/log, walk down aways and then mark the first log length. Carrying the chain saw in my left hand and marking with my right hand. After marking, just let go of the crayon holder and it would retract back to the key back at my belt. I found it very fast and easy to do with gloves on.
Eventually I found the spencer nail on the end of the tape to be a pain to push into frozen logs. I replaced it with an ice pick. To attach the ice pick which had a very short metal point to the tape end I used a staple into the side of the wooden handle of the ice pick. You just had to be careful when you sat down that you didn't sit on the ice pick and jab it into your leg. Don't ask me how I know.
Jim Rogers
The devil is in the details, always sweat the details and you rarely have to sweat the big stuff. ;D
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So far I have never had the need for a Spencer tape, but I have been known to paint several tapes when making repetitive cuts. This one is from the "sand box" job.
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Yup, learning a lot of stuff. :D
A lumber crayon has many uses. And the uses include regular marking of lumber when grading boards. Boards moving down the green chain at several a minute, need to be marked with the grade and if needed, cut back or ripped to improve the grade. That crayon needs to be readily available for making the mark as well as out of the way when moving or flipping a board to see the other side.
The reason for the leather thong that goes around the wrist, allows for a quick grab of the hand as well as dropping it to hang on the wrist.
This one is over 50 years old for grading lumber, marking veneer, and marking logs for sawing. Now not used as much, but am not aware of the walnut threads under the knurled nut wearing out.
There are larger diameter ones for chalk.
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Well, that just makes good sense if you are working with it for long periods. The ones I have bought in more recent years don't have a loop long enough to get a 6 year old's hand through, but they are easily changed out.
But for those of us who use one for 1 or 2 minutes out of every hour, having that thing hang on your wrist is just a hazard. It's all in the application, I guess.
I use Barbender's livestock chalk quite a bit, there's usually several odd pieces in the back of the truck. I hadn't seen the little retracting pencil holders going to have to get one for Red crayon and another for pencil duty...They would be handy.
What do you use the crayons for while milling?
The only need I have had for one is in explaining the best I can cut from a log to a customer. I've rarely had a need.
(I did lose a spencer tape once; I miss it, but am too cheap to replace it.)
I used mine in the past cutting the long stuff. I would walk along and mark the boards where I wanted the help to cut to shorter lengths. I don't use it near as much now but it is amazing how much you do use it when you have it handy.
I use it for marking the ends of a more challenging log to remind me of what my plan was and which side is which, not often, but enough. I also use it to mark stacks so the boss will know which client it is for and if it's done. (Sometimes I grab a piece of slab to make a little sign for the stack.) Mostly I use it to mark slabs for hacking into OWB size and marking where I want to buck logs before milling. I do mark some boards that are odd size so they don't get mixed in. I take those boards home and use them for building junk stuff like sawhorses and utility stuff where the stock size is not really important.
As Jake said, if it's always handy, you use it a lot more than you would think.
I mark the ends of customer logs what they want our of each log, (4/4, 6/4, 1x6, etc.). Also if they want natural edge slabs, I mark what orientation to cut the log for what they want (best crotch figure, curved, widest possible etc.).
Yes. ;D
I use mine for marking customer logs mostly. If cutting beams or cants I mark out the beam once I find my opening cut. I'll also mark a crooked log as to which way I want the boards, incase I get distracted. That happens alot.
The crayons I am using don't work on wet stuff. Some times I gotta mark wet stuff. This question created many more responses than I thought it would. Thanks to all.
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I always like to follow up when I take advantage of the info here and use it. I went to HD on Saturday (yeah, I know, bad idea) and get a couple of these buggers. They showed 47 in stock, they had none on the shelf. I got some Dewalt crayons in yellow to try and some other little stuff I needed. When I checked out I mentioned to the clerk it was really annoying to see they had a mess of something in stock and not available to buy. She agreed and asked the item number, which I had on my phone, she looked it up and told me that those small items are stocked on the top shelves, I just had to get and associate to get them down. I LAUGHED, She Laughed and I paid for the stuff I had, but asked if I could leave it there for a few minutes, she was game.
So I went back and there was a gal looking for help with something, we commiserated briefly about not being able to find anyone, then I recruited her to 'watch for the cops' while I went and stole a ladder, brought it around and she cleared traffic for me, I climbed up, found what I wanted, re-stocked their bins, paid and got out. (In the past I got reprimanded for using their ladder to re-stock their shelves for them, that's not allowed at all apparently.) I note that there were 10 people waiting on line for self checkout and no (none, zero, el-zippo) manned registers open, except for the Pro register at the far end of the store, which I used.
I told you all that so I could tell you this: I love this little gadget and I also think I like the dewalt crayons. I put a 2" long nugget in the holder and on first use it broke off clean at the end of the rubber, turns out it had an undercut there for some reason. No matter, it worked just fine with the nugget inside the rubber and the yellow showed up great on heavy barked red pine. I prefer hooking the gizmo on the corner of my right pants pocket and it's always at hand and never in the way. It's one of those little things that just makes things easier and faster.
I'm calling this a winner and I am glad we discussed it.
I looked for it in Lowe's Sunday but failed to find one.
You gotta 'want it' and work for it. :D
My Lowes lists them in stock too but I was so ticked at HD for listing 47 in stock that I got my grumpy old man act on and went and got them myself. I did not want to drive through the Saturday shopper traffic the 2 miles to Lowes and do the same thing.
I got my made in the USA leather belt loop key fob, and the key back with the Kevlar instead of the chain. I had crayons and the wooden holder. I also have the little black wax pencil that can screw out more "lead" as needed. my dad used them to mark cardbord boxes back when he was a truck driver.
I found my stash of the other wax markers.
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I buy whatever brand of crayon is in the box store. A box lasts me a long time. I only use them to mark the rays when I quarter saw and when sawing posts/beams. I measure from the pith to insure it is centered in the post.
Much more useful to me is Markal paint pens. I number live edge slabs so I know what order they come off the log and what log they are from. The slabs always seem to get mixed up when going from the mill to the kiln and later stacked. I need a system where I can later book match those slabs to make a table or sell. Crayon marks fade or get rubbed off but paint pen marks stay for a long time.
I have the walnut crayon holder. So far the threads are okay. I use the crayon for marking ends of logs as I'm sawing also to remember what it is I am sawing.
I use pro sharpies all the time, My favourite for marking customer bundles of wood, customers ends of logs that are stored.
Well Jason had brought the cypress lumber we sawed at the project back for me to finish. He also brought a bunch that Slider had sawed out of other river logs. Anyway I thought y'all would like to see what the lumber looks like after planing. Pretty cool getting to be part of this.
The first two are of the vertical grain we sawed at the project.
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These next two are of some of the colors that was in the logs Slider sawed.
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Beautiful wood, great job.
They look really good. Your planer knives must be sharp too. I don't see any fuzzy cypress in those stacks.
Worth every once of work! Boy that stuff looks even better on the big screen and the color hints and tints are really cool. We'll never see that kind of wood up here, you guys are sure lucky it grows near you.
OH MY, that is nice looking lumber!
I still can't figure out weather Jake was throwing me under the buss or not.
I would think that Cypress weighs a lot less now with all the river water drained out of it. ;D
There are two woods that I think are most beautiful- Atlantic white cedar/what they call juniper in Downeast NC and cypress.
Jake's work on that cypress is proof of how beautiful cypress really is!
That's craftsmanship! It honors that ancient tree/log!
I agree on Cypress being the most beautiful lumber species. The wood grain is so unique and it changes to a totally different personality comparing flat sawn and vertical grain/rift sawn. I love them both.
When I built our Cabin in 1995-96 and then added the addition in 2015-16, all of the trim lumber is Cypress.
I really love the look of the vertical grain lumber. Looks great
Quote from: slider on September 21, 2023, 07:59:36 AMI still can't figure out whether Jake was throwing me under the bus or not.
I don't think so Slider.
He was just pointing out the different look between vertical grain and flat sawn.
Personally, the look of your cypress is nicer than the vertical grain that Jake milled up.
When he tosses me under there, it's usually obvious.
Transmission.
Drive shaft.
Differential . .
Slider I certainly was not throwing you under the bus. I think you done fine job sawing it. It just amazed me all of the different colors in these logs, that came out the same area of the river. I would guess it depends on which side of the bend it was in, or how much mud covered it. Of course, I don't have a clue why it's different, just like pondering on it.
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I just went and checked, those gadgets are about 3 bucks and in stock locally, so I will have to stop there and suffer the Saturday hordes at HD when I do my next beer run and grab a few of those and some dewalt crayons to try them out. I see they have Yellow also, I never thought of it before, but I but that will show up better on bark than red. I might try those too.
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I wanted to follow up on this, just so it's written down and in a year I can come back and see what my opinion was. ;D
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So I got two of those pencil pulls and replaced them with short crayon stubs. The pulls are a no-brainer gotta have choice. I will get some for spares as I am bound to lose them eventually. They've popped off a few times but I found them easily.
The red dixon crayons stay in not problem and work just fine. But I also bought some dewalt yellow crayons to test and they are noticeably softer. Turns out they are so soft, the rubber on the pencil holder seems to compress the hex shape into a round and they slip out easy when one attempts to mark something. Also they seem to break easy, but they do mark better and are easier to see on logs. Used it a bunch today for marking mushroom logs and the breaking and slipping out all the time was a pain. The red dixon held up perfect and never slipped out but the mark was hard to see on the bark. I thought about Jakes tip of using crazy glue to hold the thing in the rubber, and I didn't have any, but I put a wrap of electrical tape on a new piece and worked it in. It seems to be holding much better. I had put that new section of crayon in just bare, laid it on a board and watched it force the crayon out all by itself in about a minute. With the electrical tape, it held in.
So the jury is still out on the Dewalt crayons, but those pencil pulls are a real winner. When I switch back to woodworking in the shop, I may even try one on a pencil. :D
After 40 plus years of keeping a pencil over my right ear tucked under hat, I switched to a pencil pull on my nail apron suspenders.
On my current building project, I've reached for my pencil over my ear 100 times.
I'm having to adjust to a better way, it's just hard to break a habit.
So far I lost fewer pencils! That's s plus.
Ted, I hang these things on my right hand pants pocket and I have reached for them over a hundred times in a few a weeks and I love it because I never have to look. I haven't done the 'pencil behind the ear' in several decades because it doesn't work with lumber pencils (at least not on my ears) and I never tried it with a crayon, but for sure I would lose that sucker in the woods in about 5 minutes. :D
Using a regular pencil, yeah, I would shove it over my ear and up into my hat band, but I would often stab myself in the head during the workday at some point. :D I like these pencil pulls, gotta get a few spares.
Hard to overcome that old muscle memory. ;D
A definition:
Muscle memory is a form of procedural memory that involves consolidating a specific motor task into memory through repetition. When a movement is repeated over time, the brain creates a long-term muscle memory for that task, eventually allowing it to be performed with little to no conscious effort.
I keep one on my tool belt with a pencil in it, for when I'm working on projects. I got in the habit of hooking mine on my shirt or coat right breast pocket. The main reason for this is that I was walking along the long mill, marking boards at close to that height, 90% of the time that I was marking with it. Just became a habit. If I stuck it somewhere else I wouldn't be able to find it. The last ones I ordered I think I got them direct from the company that was on the back of the HD package. Been so long ago that I can't remember if I saved anything or not. It did let me bet a bunch of them and just stick them in a drawer with some other parts. I think I have 10-15 left. Which will probably last me my lifetime. When I was sawing in Hazelhurst I would go through one every couple of weeks, due to the thread would start cutting into the plastic and eventually break. Big difference when you go from making around 50 marks on each log to less than 10 marks a day.
Jake never thru me under the buss but when he sawed the pine flooring for our new house i sent him 2 packs of boards , when i came to get then he informed me that i was used to sawing for siding on houses or barns and not flooring .He caught hell with his molder , i got it and the next pack he was fine ,i guess i learned . I learned something from a find friend.
Curious to know what you mean, sawing siding versus flooring ?
I'm guessing that flooring requires tighter tolerances than Siding to be efficient.
Moulder's don't like a wide variety of widths or thicknesses. When we're milling flooring blanks we mill for consistent widths and thicknesses.
Even with doing so, we will run them through the edger after drying in order to have a really straight blank to put through the moulder.
Thanks for the answers.
As Scott said, the tolerances on flooring is a lot tighter than siding. There are things you can get away with when sawing siding that won't make a flooring board. Paneling is a little more forgiving than flooring but not much.