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Title: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: fluidpowerpro on February 12, 2023, 12:53:28 PM
I'm currently visiting San Antonio Tx so I'm seeing some trees we don't have in MN. What kind is this one without bark? I see a bunch of them on the Riverwalk.
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Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: doc henderson on February 12, 2023, 01:05:18 PM
It has a twist, and the one seems to have some bark, and I thought I imagined some balls in the tree tops, poss. sycamore?  not really knobby enough.  the first one has a very "upright" form.
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Crusarius on February 12, 2023, 01:08:53 PM
I was thinking if it didn't have bark it would be naked :)

or would the bite be what gets you? :)
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: fluidpowerpro on February 12, 2023, 01:12:51 PM
Although the leaves are now dead I was able to find one still attached and it somewhat resembles that of a maple.
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Smallmill on February 12, 2023, 01:32:46 PM
Never been to Texas but the V shaped tree has a Zelkova look to it. Sycamore or planetree on straight tree maybe 
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: beenthere on February 12, 2023, 02:50:28 PM
Doc has it, Sycamore (Platanus occidentalis)  and the leaf is like maple, but 3 lobed. 

Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Southside on February 12, 2023, 03:19:00 PM
A Dogwood that went to the vet and got debarked.  :D. But yes, Sycamore.
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Magicman on February 12, 2023, 03:29:14 PM
The first slick bark tree looks more like a Crepe Myrtle.  The others are Sycamore.
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: doc henderson on February 12, 2023, 04:31:06 PM
my first response was going to be a "dead tree"  glad I went with sycamore.  maybe the first one is just a "sick a more"!
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Southside on February 12, 2023, 05:25:52 PM
I think you can see the puff balls in the first photo.
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: doc henderson on February 12, 2023, 05:54:14 PM
yes, but i was not sure if it was from that tree, or the one behind it.   :)
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: fluidpowerpro on February 12, 2023, 10:38:51 PM
Thanks guys, at least I learned one thing today!
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Texas Ranger on February 13, 2023, 08:40:07 AM
Quote from: Smallmill on February 12, 2023, 01:32:46 PM
Never been to Texas 
Well, you got to rectify that error. 8) 
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 13, 2023, 09:03:18 AM
It's not an error, it's just a gap in his education. :D :D
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Don P on February 13, 2023, 05:10:09 PM
I could wander under those bridges admiring them for some time, have a snack and do it again. Umm, I think Mission San Juan is pretty close, its cool. Oh, they have a good arboretum too.
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Smallmill on February 14, 2023, 09:13:43 AM
I didn't realize I had a Texas sized gap.. I'll have to work on that
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: fluidpowerpro on February 15, 2023, 11:10:37 PM
Was walking along the River Walk some more this evening and took note of how many huge trees there are in the area. It was already dark so couldn't get any pictures of the top. Are these also Sycamore?
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Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Ianab on February 15, 2023, 11:50:55 PM
Bark is wrong for Sycamore. Sycamore is quite distinctive as the bark is thin and flaky, and patches randomly peel off leaving white splotches all over the trunk. 

Pictures of some here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platanus_occidentalis

Not sure what that tree is, almost has a "softwood" look to the bark, reminds me of Japanese Cedar. But without a few more pictures  ??? ???  Being an ornamental,  and the Texas climate, it could almost anything, and likely not a local species at all. 
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: fluidpowerpro on February 15, 2023, 11:55:20 PM
Quote from: Ianab on February 15, 2023, 11:50:55 PM
Not sure what that tree is, almost has a "softwood" look to the bark, 
If softwood, maybe Cottonwood?
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: beenthere on February 15, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Agree, looks like cedar bark. Fyi, cottonwood is not a softwood.

Now where did you get the model with the fancy lighted hat?
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: fluidpowerpro on February 16, 2023, 12:22:51 AM
She's an aspiring tree model thats hoping to break into the tree show circuit, and also my significant other. 
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Magicman on February 16, 2023, 07:41:36 AM
Those trees were probably set by a nursery before the 1968 HemisFair (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HemisFair_%2768), so they could be anything fast growing.

PatD and I were there in 1968 when the fair opened.  It was quite an ordeal.
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 16, 2023, 11:48:23 AM
I would say, in order, crepe myrtle, sycamore and bald cypress.  I don't see any cypress knees though.  
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Magicman on February 16, 2023, 11:59:36 AM
If/when Cypress trees are on dry land and the roots are not flooded, they will very seldom grow knees. 
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: LeeB on February 16, 2023, 12:18:02 PM
Cyprus.
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Magicman on February 16, 2023, 08:42:02 PM
Since you are close you might as well go to Sweetwater for the annual Rattlesnake Roundup.
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: fluidpowerpro on February 16, 2023, 09:26:17 PM
Heading home to MN tomorrow. My GF is here for work so I came with her just to get out of the cold for a bit. Glad I did. San Antonio is a great place to visit. Was kind of disappointed though when I asked to see the basement of the Alamo. The tour guide didn't think it was funny....
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: beenthere on February 16, 2023, 10:25:55 PM
There is a basement.. 

QuoteIn the basement below the gift shop, which was added at least four years after Pee-wee came up empty in his search, there is an employee break room, restrooms, storage areas for gift shop items, staff lockers and a resource library for tour guides.Aug 4, 2015
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: metalspinner on February 20, 2023, 06:52:16 PM
Was just in San Antonio last week. All those Big trees on the river walk are cypress. 
Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: Don P on February 20, 2023, 08:17:14 PM
I had these in my gallery, I think this is Mission San Juan Capistrano, from the 1730's.


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This spiral stair is what caught my eye

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We did see some swamp cypress on the way home

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Title: Re: What kind of tree is this with no bark?
Post by: ppine on March 08, 2023, 12:57:46 PM
The smooth white colored bark is likely sycamore of London planetree the common hybrid in the nursery trade. 

The red, shredded looking bark could be cypress.