Ouch! I guess my grip is better than a chinaman's. Just trying to nip off a screw. Like a small firecracker going off in my hand.
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Jeff ya gotta back off the roids. :D
Geez ya beast😂
That is why I won't use cheap chinesium tools! I can find enough ways to hurt myself.
China- Old Indian word for garbage
I don't wanna shake Jeff's hand. ;D :D ;D :D
That's exactly why I don't like China junk!! It could cost you getting hurt or killed!!
I'd at least want to see some damage to the cutting edge before it imploded.
What's interesting is that both handles broke rather than 1...
When it went, it felt like when you hit a fastball real wrong and it stings for awhile.
Take 'em back, let them know they were defective from the start.
To China?
Was wondering what kind of blood blisters that caused.
Not a big surprise. Jeff, you don't say, but did you cut off the screw? My guess is you did and the shock load when the jaws closed (rapidly) caused the handles to snap. Which is why they both broke. This is a symptomatic problem which starts with the China steel mills being very sloppy about the elements they put in various alloys with wide variation. It trickles down and multiplies through the manufacturing chain when heat treating specs are set for a particular alloy, but the composition of that material is not to spec, so it comes up either soft, or too brittle, which is what you are seeing here. For years we had issues until we finally started to spec out that the source materials for high strength (and quality) alloys we paid a premium for could not originate in China and we rejected truckloads of the stuff.
Some bean counter at the corporate level ordered a test run of precision machined parts from a shop in China. Was gonna save us hundreds of thousands he said. Out of 100 parts, every one had a slightly different hardness and all had dimensional variations for below the low limit to over the high limit on routine machining, and the critical working form inside these parts didn't even come close. Mission failed (I saw to that ;D). The stuff is junk because they are just sloppy.
So did the screw cut off or not?
A few years ago, I bought a pair of cage clip pliers at TSC. They did not break but they simply would not function, could not close a cage clip with them. I took them back and got my money back, but I made a point to explain to a manager that they just would not function. I went back to the store a while after and they still had them on the shelf. I will no longer shop there and I try hard to not buy Chinas' junk.
Difficult to find tools in the stores that are NOT made in China.
I know of a big box store that has set the price point so low, there's no way quality tool makers can afford to get their tools on the retail shelves. I wonder too how many people buy tools site unseen off a website, with no idea of the origin or quality... but they got free shipping. ::)
Jeff,
The problem is not that the nippers were made in China. The problem is that the screw was not also made there. :D
The screw would have broken, he wouldn't need the nippers.
I keep a pair of 8" Irwins in the truck to cut dirty stuff in the ground. Every other one in the shop, after throwing away all the junk ones, is Knipex. These are the cheapest Knipex dikes I've seen:
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That's why it's a good idea to wear safety glasses for anything. The package they came in probably had a warning for copper wire only. I had a 2 ft snap on 1/2" ratchet I borrowed break the square drive off and send me to the ER once. Snap on gave my friend a new $200.00 rachet and I got 6 weeks on crutches. Any tool can break and inflict pain along with cursing.
Quote from: Walnut Beast on May 06, 2023, 01:41:52 PM
That's exactly why I don't like China junk!! It could cost you getting hurt or killed!!
Killed from a pair of nippers?
Well in a James Bond / Jason Bourne / Austin Powers sort of way they could be rigged with explosives and send shrapnel into ones jugular. :D
I don't blame China, I blame the company that ordered them with a super low price point. China has been making steel long enough to make good stuff, buy no one wants to buy a nippers for $30.
I have broken tools, but never had a self destruct like that. But I don't buy tools from the $5 bin.
I'm always on the lookout for oldy but goody american made tools at estate sales. Oftentimes, they are as good as ever and the people running the sale put low prices on them. German, Italian, Swiss, Scandadavian and some others are good too. I once bought 2 Italian made big,well made heavy scissors at a sale for $ 1.00 each. And the holes for my club thumb and fingers on the handles are big enough to get in and out of. You can't find stuff like that in the stores.