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Title: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: Don P on May 16, 2023, 09:50:28 PM
I haven't been real happy with the sharpening I've gotten the past few years, not that I'm thrilled with my own either. I've done 5 sets of 3 over the past couple of days. In other words, I ran till I ran out ::). Those of you that are still running straight knives, how are you sharpening?


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Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: Southside on May 16, 2023, 10:38:52 PM
I have a Tormek T8.  How much spare time do you have?  It gives a great edge. 
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: doc henderson on May 16, 2023, 10:52:28 PM
I have the grizzly knife sharpener.  It works but is "clunky" and you have to hold your mouth just right.  I did the deal with a board with saw kerfs the thickness of the knives at the appropriate angle and used a sander.   a new set of four is only 60 bucks.  so all of the above.
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: chet on May 17, 2023, 12:23:33 AM
I have an old cabinet model that Grizzly once sold. As Doc said kinda clunky and also not much in the way of fine adjustments. But after some modifications and a learning curve on my part, I'm able to achieve a much better job than any of the 4 sharpening services I've used.
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: customsawyer on May 17, 2023, 03:26:08 AM
I've never tried it as I have a couple of good sharpening services close by.  A good friend used to use a belt sander to touch up his knives between sending them out. I think he only used it on the back a little but not sure.
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: muggs on May 17, 2023, 09:27:58 AM
My planer has a sharpener built into it (powermatic) It sharpens them in the cutterhead.
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: 21incher on May 17, 2023, 09:53:24 AM
I used to use a Makita wet sharpener for my old belsaw 12 inch blades.  Before I got that I had a machinist make an angled step block and sharpen them all at once on the surface grinder.
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: Larry on May 17, 2023, 11:05:15 AM
I had a long arm Dewalt RAS that I put a stone on.  Made a jig to hold the knife.  After that I bought a garage sale old Craftsman 8" table saw.  Put a stone on it and made another jig to hold the blade.  Slid the jig left to right across the stone.  Both methods worked well, especially if I honed the blade with a few strokes after grinding.  The advantage of the table saw is I left it set up so it was ready to go quick.

Finally found a local sharpening shop that did a great job (better than me) at a reasonable cost.  Liked that method best!

Today the planer has a Shellix head and the jointer uses a Tersa head so no need to sharpen.  Actually really sharp knives work just as well but that super sharp edge goes way to fast!


Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: rusticretreater on May 17, 2023, 11:21:24 AM
A good precise jig is essential if you don't invest in a sharpening system.

I have a done two methods with good success. Both involve a precisely mitered block of wood to affix the blades to.  The first is to use a plate of glass, granite or something similar.  You place a piece of fine grit sandpaper on the surface and wet it thoroughly to make it adhere to the surface.  I use Marvel Mystery Oil. The wood is fashioned to slide along the edge of the plate. You then gently, gently hone the blade on the sandpaper.  This is a skill you have to develop.

The second is basically the same method but I use an Arkansas stone and water.  Both methods seem to yield the same results.
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: Brad_bb on May 17, 2023, 10:59:08 PM
I've always sent my 16" knives from my Woodmizer mill planer to 
Jorsen &Carlson (https://www.jorsonandcarlson.com/contact/facility_locations/elk_grove_village/egv_location.html)
I have 8 sets of knives for that machine for beam planing (and the occasional slab).  I think I had two sets from Woodmizer and Jorsen &Carlson made be 6 more sets.  So when I get 4 or more sets that need sharpening I send them in.  On my smaller hand held power planers I will send those knives when I send knives for the above machine.  Don't ask me what I pay as I haven't sent any in about 2 years or so. It was reasonable though.  
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: barbender on May 17, 2023, 11:17:24 PM
I have the Grizzly dry knife grinder, it works fine with a light touch. 
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: scsmith42 on May 18, 2023, 11:41:23 AM
Don, if I have to do them myself I use a Tormek. It's slow but the edge is fantastic.

Personally I prefer to use a sharpening service.  Smith Sawmill Shop (FF Sponsor) does a great job in their Polkton, NC facility.  I've also been pleased with the workmanship by Union Grove Saw and Knife.  They can also sharp milling cutters.
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: customsawyer on May 18, 2023, 07:43:57 PM
The one thing you have to remember is don't try to beat someone else at their own game. They don't try to saw lumber and I don't try to sharpen my planer knives.
Title: Re: How do you sharpen planer knives?
Post by: caveman on May 31, 2023, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: rusticretreater on May 17, 2023, 11:21:24 AMI have a done two methods with good success. Both involve a precisely mitered block of wood to affix the blades to.  The first is to use a plate of glass, granite or something similar.  You place a piece of fine grit sandpaper on the surface and wet it thoroughly to make it adhere to the surface.  I use Marvel Mystery Oil. The wood is fashioned to slide along the edge of the plate. You then gently, gently hone the blade on the sandpaper.  This is a skill you have to develop.
I have a few extra Bronco cab windows.  They are flat and will hold three pieces of wet/dry sandpaper taped to them.  On my 8" straight knife jointer and 13" straight knife Rockwell planer knives, I hone them on the paper taped to the glass.  I start with somewhere around 400 grit and work up to 1000 or 1200.  I tried making a jig but it was cumbersome at best.  Now, I just match the bevel to the surface and scrub them back and forth 50 or so times per grit.  The difference is significant compared to dull knives.  A few scrubs on the non-beveled side seem to help too.  This does not replace a proper sharpening but from removing the knives to freshening them up to reinstalling is only about 30-40 minutes.