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Title: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2023, 09:13:25 AM
Saw a bottle like this?  

I don't feel it is incredibly old, but it is incredibly durable. It survived getting, (fictitious account) thrown from a late 1950s dodge truck with one headlight and a taped up vent window and missing muffler, at about 2:15 in the morning on the way home from the Raber bay bar 2 days before buck season after an evening of drinking and table shuffleboard. It just missed the large rocks used to make the road bed and settled into the fresh fallen snow on N.Caribou Lake rd.  Over the years it filled with sediment and small rodent hair, and absorbed into the earth, and was lost to mankind. 

This week, it survived the mulching of the tag alder roots and choke cherry, and wild clematis vines and earth surrounding it and was brough back to the surface.

While inspecting the newly mulched area, I spied what I though was a broken long neck of a beer bottle sticking out of the slash. I bent over and picked it up to find this whole bottle.  Long story short, I can not find ANY examples of it on the internet. What did I find??


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Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 30, 2023, 09:22:48 AM
looks like Jos Schlitz brewing company.  can you type out what is on the bottom?
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 30, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Schlitz_Brewing_Company
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 30, 2023, 09:28:52 AM
https://www.fohbc.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/SchlitzBeerBottles_1Winter2004.pdf

more about bottles
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2023, 09:36:17 AM
I know its a schlitz bottle, because it says so. The bottom says Not to be refilled. No deposit no return.  I can not find another example of that bottle stlye or label. Plus its heavy and the label is impregnated into the glass.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 30, 2023, 09:37:21 AM
Jos. Schlitz Brewing Company of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA - Tavern Trove (https://www.taverntrove.com/jos-schlitz-brewing-company-of-milwaukee-wisconsin-usa-br-253.html)

this group of photos has part of that label pictured.

(https://www.taverntrove.com/imagecache/brewery_logo_1141.jpg_H340.jpg)

1895 to 1900.  they advertised the brown bottle for purity.  the light degraded the beer.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 30, 2023, 09:41:04 AM
It seems to have a logo on the label and the bottom in the glass, that looks a little like a harp.  hard to see.  great mystery.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: chet on August 30, 2023, 09:42:49 AM
Twist off cap?  The fact that it is non refillable would appear to date it during our drinkin' days.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: rusticretreater on August 30, 2023, 09:44:44 AM
On the bottom it says no deposit no return plus manufacturing information.

Looks like the original pony bottle one can carry in their pocket on in a lunch pail.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2023, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: chet on August 30, 2023, 09:42:49 AM
Twist off cap?
No. Opener.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Hilltop366 on August 30, 2023, 09:56:53 AM
Searching "Schlitz 1849 malt lager" shows cans with that label but no bottles.

So no help with that but the thread does confirm the bottle washer portion of chief cook and bottle washer.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 30, 2023, 10:00:26 AM
(https://www.taverntrove.com/imagecache/brewery_photo_695.jpg_H589.jpg)

this image from 1968 has features of the bottle.  the circular label parts and a bull with 3 lines behind.  no bottle that looked like that.  the label must be foil, not paper.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 30, 2023, 10:06:05 AM
never saw that bottle in all the ad photos.  they did have a paper milk carton style for use at large events.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2023, 10:15:44 AM
$300 @POSTON WIDEHEAD (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=14625) :D
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 30, 2023, 10:20:28 AM
did he find it?
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 30, 2023, 10:36:49 AM
I am guessing it is a limited edition or commemorative edition. Sometime in the mid to later 60's because of the 'no deposit' stuff. I believe this is around the time they started to include plastic into the glass to make it more durable, but it also made it non-refillable.
 I too did some heavy searching and could not find an example of it. 1849 was the year the company was founded.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Resonator on August 30, 2023, 11:07:59 AM
Was that the bottle that: "Sally was sippin' on the seashore?" ???
(Old saying). ;D
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: chet on August 30, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on August 30, 2023, 10:36:49 AM
Sometime in the mid to later 60's because of the 'no deposit' stuff.
Not necessarily. Rather than stamp or cast the return on bottles, many times they would include a paper collar on the neck of the bottle, with that info.
Jeff, how many ounces is it?  My guess is it was the bottle version of the Schlitz Malt in shorty cans.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on August 30, 2023, 12:39:50 PM
Aren't you the Chief Bottle Washer?
You get paid the same....carry on and don't drop it! 😂😂😂
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 30, 2023, 12:45:30 PM
I get it, 300 bucks is a goat unit of value.! :)

SGU  see forum dictionary.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 30, 2023, 03:55:47 PM
See a bunch of Schlitz bottles on ebay, but none like that. Not even the shape.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Bert on August 30, 2023, 04:18:28 PM
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-schlitz-malt-liquor-beer-3226015952
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 30, 2023, 04:25:14 PM
Thanks for finding that Bert. I went to ebay and searched it.

ebay Schlitz Malt Liquor Bottle (https://www.ebay.ca/itm/126068983224?hash=item1d5a4c05b8:g:BBwAAOSwRbtk6-y0&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABAK%2FFPfA1TvVFivsAi%2FKs%2Bq2z8POrqiL1f7%2BQ8Fc6La3MxnuvMKuH8f5MJNJe%2F7CHMcAwEMmH2jNNTweMAOff0RZC04%2BlFR%2FMxjZQP8lU2K3mrPeYN3%2FJaOEcZa7LXlNkIAFlAxrlb1Tq7lex%2F9NCE%2Bjb3BRSJCoLyy4dPibU1d7SLfcT9BFyiPWYguB46jDRgjLV5mkl6UWGBrm4k1AErHQM%2FKhx2Y5VLMmGXRhrMlDzZOJrqFRNuMjucU5kcraR8T%2F%2BnL%2Fmw0ZvFSmbmz9CXKNWbkWhn7PRx5joKZPnLgUm0Nyy9ccWZ3NHMiIu6c4cImL6vgc92iw93ByMO9773Tc%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7z7-YHJYg)
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Bert on August 30, 2023, 04:39:26 PM
I wanted to, but could not bring myself to pay for bid history.  :D I hoped it was worth a fortune though!
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: chet on August 30, 2023, 04:40:22 PM
Ding Ding Ding I win   8)   :D
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 30, 2023, 04:54:07 PM
What did you win, a Schlitz malt bottle? :D
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2023, 09:01:33 PM
That's it!!
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Don P on August 30, 2023, 09:30:14 PM
Did you see a year?

I remember a classmate, Kathy K was giving a report of some sort for Sunday evening church service. When she got tongue tied and pronounced the country "Schlitzerland" in front of a good Southern Baptist congregation. She was momentarily mortified, there was a stunned silence, and then the laughter rolled :D.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Ianab on August 31, 2023, 01:16:30 AM
To be fair, it's worth more now than when it was actually full of beer.  :D
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: SwampDonkey on August 31, 2023, 04:16:18 AM
Antique glass used to be worth a few bucks, but antique buyers have told me that in recent years glass has become less valuable. I have an old set of glassware here, a pitcher and glasses in dark Northwood carnival glass. I few years ago it was $1000 as a similar set was on Antique Road show. I see now it's in the $400 range. It's 1910-1920's era glass.

Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2023, 09:13:58 AM
It seems that this is a Schlitz Malt Liquor 7 oz, circa 1964.  I was still being maniacally sheltered from the evils of the world until around 75 being a P.K.
Title: Re: What the... Have you ever?
Post by: doc henderson on August 31, 2023, 11:26:19 AM
pastors' kid from the UK. :D