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General Forestry => Firewood and Wood Heating => Topic started by: gaspasser on September 04, 2023, 09:25:12 AM

Title: Conveyers Recs
Post by: gaspasser on September 04, 2023, 09:25:12 AM
As we all are, I'm trying to achieve OHIO (only handle it once) with firewood. I see new conveyers for about 4-5K (e.g Hudson, Timberwolf) and would load from splitter into dump truck. I see chain vs belt varieties. Also belt with or without paddles. Pros and cons? How practical is it to DIY or adapt a used hay elevator? Thought, comments welcome. Thanks gang.
Title: Re: Conveyers Recs
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 04, 2023, 10:01:07 AM
Most of what I see now are chain link with paddles and boy do they make a lot of annoying noise which to me means wear is taking place and paint is being worn off (where rust is soon to follow). I did see one at Boonville that they had added delrin wear blocks to eliminate the noise and that worked (I think it was Eastonmade). But there were a lot (most) that made a heck of a racket and I noticed the operators had to shut them down to have a conversation with customers. The belts on the other hand are very quiet. Belts don't rust but do wear and can be pricey at replacement time. Just some points to think on. Also, having one with a hydraulic motor that can be tied into your splitter or processor and just run the one engine might be useful. I did like the ones with a drive motor that allowed you to swing it on the fly while still under the splitter to change dump points, but now that can get pricey. ;D
Title: Re: Conveyers Recs
Post by: Ventryjr on September 05, 2023, 08:29:03 PM
I adapted a single chain skeleton hay elevator for sawdust removal.  I welded paddles on and filled in the trough with sheetmetal. The 1/8" metal paddles wore holes in a few spots of the 24ga filler metal where they rubbed.  I tried to setup the paddles to stay 1/4 off the bottom.    I plan on making a similar setup for firewood. With a hydraulic drive to run on the splitter. 

https://youtube.com/shorts/3_AiE2ZA-Pw?si=1yFaBV5Y3hYTjiYi (https://youtube.com/shorts/3_AiE2ZA-Pw?si=1yFaBV5Y3hYTjiYi)
Title: Re: Conveyers Recs
Post by: doc henderson on September 05, 2023, 10:10:55 PM
firewood conveyor in Firewood and Wood Heating (forestryforum.com) (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=104843.20)
Title: Re: Conveyers Recs
Post by: GRANITEstateMP on September 10, 2023, 07:51:39 AM
I picked up a used built-rite this spring. Belt conveyor, belt driven, honda motor that sips fuel, simple and rugged. Quieter than the old splitter its working with
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Title: Re: Conveyers Recs
Post by: Gere Flewelling on September 10, 2023, 12:09:27 PM
We started with an old hay elevator with chain and paddles.  We did more work in it than with it.  Wood is just too inconsistent for this type of machine. The smallest sliver would jamb it up and break the chain. Plus the noise was unbearable.  Purchased a Blacks Creek 20 ' conveyor with a belt driven rubber conveyor belt with no paddles. It had a textured belt that worked very well loading over an 8' high truck side.  Matched up with our Super Split splitter, we could split and load wood all day on 2 gallons of gas and all without any hydraulics. Plus it was quiet enough so my son and I could easily communicate without yelling.  Sold the conveyor when the business was done, but miss it greatly.  It seemed like the perfect combination to us back then.
Title: Re: Conveyers Recs
Post by: Bruno of NH on September 17, 2023, 10:27:58 AM
I think the belts throw the wood further if I'm not mistaken. 
Title: Re: Conveyers Recs
Post by: barbender on September 17, 2023, 01:52:59 PM
My Dyna processor has a rough texture belt with cleats. My only comaint is that it will freeze to the frame in the winter, and it also builds up with frost and will start to slip. Last winter I kept a garden sprayer with windshield washer fluid handy, and sprayed the back of the belt. That did the trick.
Title: Re: Conveyers Recs
Post by: stavebuyer on September 17, 2023, 02:14:40 PM
Belts are certainly quieter. They can get slick when frozen and cause issues if the angle is steep. Belt tracking can also be an issue. I have never owned one, but a single narrow cleated similar to this "sharp chain" running over a recessed wear strip would be my choice over belts or chain with paddles.

Sharp Chain Systems - Sawmill And Log Processing Machinery - Optimil (https://optimil.com/products/sharp-chain-systems/)



Title: Re: Conveyers Recs
Post by: sum1 on September 17, 2023, 11:23:47 PM
I have a 40' long double chain conveyor with 2" angle between them. It's not that loud certainly the Honda power pack running it is louder.

Made by feversham mfg in Ontario I believe it was $15k with power pack. Originally was after an Easton made but couldn't justify the increased cost or excessive lead time, they would also not match the paint to the bells processor I have.

Had a bale elevator long time ago. If you place the wood on it by hand it works to elevate one singular piece on the hook links.