I recently bought a used Wallenstein LXT115 forwarding/logging trailer. For those of you who might be interested in smaller but not tiny forwarding trailers I thought my youtube video might be of interest. This is a trailer that can be used on the road or in the woods. I would say it would be best to use about a 40hp tractor or better. It can be used with something smaller, I have used my 25hp tractor and it worked OK but just. I am in the hills. It is narrow enough to get around the woods on 8' trails but big enough to do some real work. 10,000 lb capacity.
(314) Logging/forwarding trailer using a roadable woods self-loading trailer new to me Wallenstein LXT115 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMBvfU69Kc)
Very handy unit. Hydraulics appear more capable than I anticipated.
That will come in handy.
Very nice unit Woodman - enjoyed your video and good job showing it off !!
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Quote from: stavebuyer on September 25, 2023, 02:26:36 AM
Very handy unit. Hydraulics appear more capable than I anticipated.
I haven't tried to pick up something it wouldn't yet. The biggest log I've tried is an 8.5 ft 22 inch cherry. I dragged it pretty close before picking it up but it had no problem. If it was a 12 footer I don't know if it would have. I do intend to use it for saw logs so I am sure I will have stuff to big for it. In that case I will use my Farmi winch like I have been.
Woodman; you have a beautiful woodlot and wide trails.
Have you considered a slide-in receiver for a trailer hitch on your Farmi winch? It wouldn't take much metalwork.
You could then take both winch and trailer out into the woods and return with a bigger load than just skidding out. It saves the trip back to bring your logs to the landing.
I think that @Peter Drouin (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12511) has/had a setup like that a few years ago.
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Nice video, enjoyed it, and great forwarding trailer.
Quote from: Andries on September 25, 2023, 12:28:44 PM
Woodman; you have a beautiful woodlot and wide trails.
Have you considered a slide-in receiver for a trailer hitch on your Farmi winch? It wouldn't take much metalwork.
You could then take both winch and trailer out into the woods and return with a bigger load than just skidding out. It saves the trip back to bring your logs to the landing.
I think that @Peter Drouin (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12511) has/had a setup like that a few years ago.
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Nice video, enjoyed it, and great forwarding trailer.
I have considered that. And I may do it. Right now I have enough trees down and topped that I can spend a day pulling to the trails. Then spend several days with the trailer bucking and forwarding the logs out. Then do it over again. So no extra trips. I am retired and try to only work hard 4 to 6 hours a day. Then I work on lighter stuff.
I will connect my forwarding trailer to my Wallenstein winch. It works well. Only downside is it makes maneuvering in the woods more of a challenge and since the hitch point is further away from the rear axle, can make the front end a little light with a full load. Hooking up on this video starts at the 13:22 mark.
Putting on tractor chains and collecting firewood - YouTube (https://youtu.be/zJGZMUwj8vA)
Very cool, congrats! Have you found the ball hitch to be an issue at all? I would think a trailer like this would have a pintle setup and was surprised. Another thought is that you need a Spencer tape or similar, money well spent to avoid the aggravation of a carpenter tape :-\
Quote from: mudfarmer on September 25, 2023, 07:51:28 PM
Very cool, congrats! Have you found the ball hitch to be an issue at all? I would think a trailer like this would have a pintle setup and was surprised. Another thought is that you need a Spencer tape or similar, money well spent to avoid the aggravation of a carpenter tape :-\
One of the first things I did was to switch to a pintle hook. It comes with a setup to attach to a drawbar but I don't have a drawbar. Plus I wanted to be able to switch between my truck and tractor easily and I had a pintle setup for the tractors already.
I have a Spencer tape, just not with me that time. I thought since I was just making short measurements the carpenter tape would be fine. For most logs it was, but enough of a pain on others, I will switch to the Spencer.
woodsman 52--excellent addition! You will love it....just make sure not to overload on hilly terrain. Bigger tractor the better: I have 70 HP which is barely enough when my PATU is fully loaded. All the best, Rob
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Quote from: woodman52 on September 26, 2023, 09:04:55 AM
Quote from: mudfarmer on September 25, 2023, 07:51:28 PM
Very cool, congrats! Have you found the ball hitch to be an issue at all? I would think a trailer like this would have a pintle setup and was surprised. Another thought is that you need a Spencer tape or similar, money well spent to avoid the aggravation of a carpenter tape :-\
One of the first things I did was to switch to a pintle hook. It comes with a setup to attach to a drawbar but I don't have a drawbar. Plus I wanted to be able to switch between my truck and tractor easily and I had a pintle setup for the tractors already.
I have a Spencer tape, just not with me that time. I thought since I was just making short measurements the carpenter tape would be fine. For most logs it was, but enough of a pain on others, I will switch to the Spencer.
If you have rough terrain with abrupt changes a pintle is the way to go. I have a small dump trailer with an arm-strong loader I use as a forwarder.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/21065/P1200125.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1569149568)
It has rotating draw bar hitch
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/21065/P1180256~0.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1695764854)
I found right off that I needed flex in both planes and made the adapter you can see above.
And below. Going thru a sharp dip could not happen w/o it.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/21065/P1140491~0.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1695744479)
I welded up a sandwich of plate pieces and drilled a couple holes in it.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/21065/P1140469.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1695756707)
gg
Very nice, guys 👍
That would be perfect for getting the cedar out that is deep in the wood lot I bought. Thanks for showing, Doug