Also felling really brittle ash this time for a while b 4 heading back to maple.
These are really flexible until the snap. And because of the strong fiber they can be a little tricky, have to bore cut a little more than maple , understand their tendency to pull or chair, and NOT be where they might want to go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dSxJEtOLlE&t=1s
Have to be more careful now Walt. A lot of mine are snapping off 20' up.
Ash by it's nature is a dry wood but EAB killed stuff the roots will fail after about 5-6 years standing dead .If the fallen tree is above the ground it remains about as hard as concrete .However if it gets in contact with the ground the bottom maybe 1 inch will rot .Even then it remains good fire wood .
Fact of the approx 5 cords I have stacked is wind blown ash and most of it was 6 inch stuff I don't have to split .That little stuff a 3 cube saws does a fine job on IMO .Why wear yourself out swinging an 80 cc saw when a 3 cuber works out just about as well ?I'm at the age the easiest way is what I use .It takes a lot of cuts to get a cord but 3 foot oak will wear you out faster .
Quote from: Al_Smith on December 18, 2024, 08:54:57 AMWhy wear yourself out swinging an 80 cc saw when a 3 cuber works out just about as well ?I'm at the age the easiest way is what I use .It takes a lot of cuts to get a cord but 3 foot oak will wear you out faster .
Been asking this same question myself, Al. Notice how it hasn't been answered?. ffcheesy Walt is into felling some pretty large trees right now, and 70cc saws are the minimum for those trees. So, 80+ cc saws offer a little more oomph when you want it. Where we diverge is using those same saws to break down the tops, when every size saw on the planet is available. Last time up there, I was working with a 266SE and a 2153. Walt was swinging an all metal 285 with 28" bar. I carried it about 50 yards back to the utility vehicle when we were loading out, and I said "what are you doing to yourself?" At 68 years old, we are not without chronic aches and pains. Each of us has a unique list, as most of us do at this stage. ffsmiley
All of us have our own preferences as to how much saw to grab for a given job. For me, until the wood gets past 10", a good 50cc saw is fine. Even smaller saws are plenty for breaking down those tops where most of the cuts are both smaller wood and shoulder height or above. But those trees are big enough that even doing the tops, will include a few cuts that the smaller saws will try your patience. But I prefer that to running a big saw that is overkill for most of the job.
On that a couple of months ago I broke out a Husky 2100 to make a stump cut of around 36 inches on a dead oak .Danged thing kept vibrating the carb off .Little did I know at the time the bracket was missing .Found one on e-bay which cured it .However I did feel a little silly having owned the big Swede for 15 years and never looked at the IPL of it .Actually I should have known better but missed it .Live and learn
I got rid of my biggest saws. Couple 2100's, 394, 395. Along with the 285 and Homelite 540 to Walt. Kept a few in the "next size down" group. If I can't cut something with a 288 or 930Super, then it ain't getting cut.
I did hang on to a Jonsered 111,which would outcut the 2100's. Certainly not lighter, but it does have a deco. ffsmiley
I've got five chainsaws over 100 cc and three at 99 cc .I obviously don't use them much and they often sit 5 years or more and not run .which brings on other things like they won't start .To me the very fact they will run after restoration is more important than operating them on a regular bassis .
After stupidly leaving a tailgate open on my truck, I'm in the market to replace an old but really good running Husky 51. Stihl dealers are closer than Husky but I really liked that Husky.
What say you? I'm definitely in the older category having passed 70.
I do like the Stihl MS 261 a lot, but can't suggest a Husky equivalent, although likely is one. Have mine with an 18" bar and this 85 yr old gets along just fine with it for several years now. When bigger is needed, the 20" on my MS 362 comes out. I really like the computer backup on these two saws.
Quote from: TreefarmerNN on December 23, 2024, 05:45:13 PMAfter stupidly leaving a tailgate open on my truck, I'm in the market to replace an old but really good running Husky 51. Stihl dealers are closer than Husky but I really liked that Husky.
What say you? I'm definitely in the older category having passed 70.
I like 346xps.
The modern Husky equivalent to the ms261 in the 550M2, which is a really nice saw to run. Thing is, both of them represent each companies' top pro offering in the 50cc class, and are priced accordingly. The 51 didn't quite occupy that rung on the ladder. (That was the 254xp) In either case, they will both feel different than your 51. Might like them; might not.
Another option, especially if you really liked your 51, is to find a used 51 or 55 in decent shape. That chassis was on the market got a lot of years, and they sold a LOT of saws. They are very reliable workhorses, as you know. But they don't have "closed port" cylinders, and don't win silly cookie cut races for the enthusiast crowd. That, along with the large number of saws produced ensures that you can find saws in nice shape at inexpensive prices.They're plenty still out there in various states of repair. If needed, they are very easy and inexpensive to rebuild.
The current homeowner 50cc saws from Husky and stihl are plastic case saws that clearly fall short of the very underated 51/55 chassis.
Quote from: David B on December 24, 2024, 07:55:40 PMQuote from: TreefarmerNN on December 23, 2024, 05:45:13 PMAfter stupidly leaving a tailgate open on my truck, I'm in the market to replace an old but really good running Husky 51. Stihl dealers are closer than Husky but I really liked that Husky.
What say you? I'm definitely in the older category having passed 70.
I like 346xps.
Unfortunately, Husqvarna stopped making the 346XP about 13 years ago.
Quote from: John Mc on December 25, 2024, 08:36:15 AMQuote from: David B on December 24, 2024, 07:55:40 PMQuote from: TreefarmerNN on December 23, 2024, 05:45:13 PMAfter stupidly leaving a tailgate open on my truck, I'm in the market to replace an old but really good running Husky 51. Stihl dealers are closer than Husky but I really liked that Husky.
What say you? I'm definitely in the older category having passed 70.
I like 346xps.
Unfortunately, Husqvarna stopped making the 346XP about 13 years ago.
I bought mine as parts cheap and sent it to @huskihl Kevin LaVanway for rebuild and porting. Lot of power in a light package.
https://youtu.be/oXy7ois15Tc?si=v086yFIMdP1w0U2o
I think some of the saws in the 51/55 series can be fitted with the 346 cylinder.
I've always been a husky/jonsered guy but knew I think I'd go with a 261. I had a ported 550 that didn't impress me, I liked the grunt of the 261.
Quote from: David B on December 25, 2024, 01:47:24 PMI think some of the saws in the 51/55 series can be fitted with the 346 cylinder.
Nope. Not related at all. 51/55 top ends and the way the carb is pulsed originated from the Partner side of the family. (Ever wonder why 51 cylinders are tapped for a top mount) If ya gotta have a hotter cylinder, closed port cylinders from the Jonsered 490 and 590, (essentially red Partners), make for an interesting saw. Or from a Partner 5000 or Poulan Pro 325? I've done a couple of them, but obviously those top ends are hard to find. One of them was also used on the Husky closed port 55. In the real world though, the 46mm 55 Rancher top end is the most versatile. And has the low end grunt you like.
Quote from: David B on December 25, 2024, 01:50:10 PMI've always been a husky/jonsered guy but knew I think I'd go with a 261. I had a ported 550 that didn't impress me, I liked the grunt of the 261.ight
Might that have had something to do with the porter? Very often the case. And was it the M1 or the M2? The M2 has a wider power band than the original did.
Which Jonsereds did you like? Red saws ought to dominate the conversation on Christmas. ffsmiley
Merry Christmas Bob, and with all due respect, that silly port job means I can get away with 24" on a light saw! 😁
Ok, I ain't gonna bury that all day, but ya know.
Live oak, 2600 janka as opposed to 1400 for most other oaks.
https://youtu.be/bKi6Z_GAV80?si=ow0hUTZAaVRrBbj7
Very nice Dave. Is that .325 chain with the 8 pin? (I don't know the stihl designations)
.325 running an 8 pin makes for a quick saw. .325 8 is about the same diameter as a 3/8 7 pin. I've got a 560xpg set up like that and it's a light Saber
@Spike60 I don't think I've met a jonny I don't like. Current favorite is 2175. Have a red 346 in the works to replace my brunette 346. Better felling sights=handle. Someday I'd like a metal jonny the runs like a 288 with a BGD.
Is it the 353 that can be 346'd ? My memory is trash...never got into those saws. 2050 then 346.
I don't remember the exact model of 2252 but yes, I don't think the port work was up to par. Kevin's 346s have a reputation...notice me leaning back in the vid to hold the saw back.
It is 23RS Pro. Narrow Kerf and crazy wicked fast factory angles - decent durability too.
I have a pile of 2050 projects I need to get a round to. David young has a porting recipe for them, got the piston he recommended.
Last runner starting spitting gas on my right hand. Some kind of vent line methinks.
This showed up before Christmas instead of after, I must have been a good boy. Too nice for who it's for, I'll try to keep it that way.
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2247 = early 346 42mm
2153 = 346NE 44.3MM
2152 = 353 45mm capped port jug. Never liked them at all. Later 350 used the same jug with a dished piston. Made it even more lame. ffcheesy
Narrow kerf is like a secret in the saw world, ain't it?
You ought to find yourself a nice 930Super. Or 920. Love that chassis; got em all. Shares nothing with a 288 except the ignition.
What sits atop the 2175? 51.4mm XPW jug?
Quote from: Spike60 on December 25, 2024, 03:46:43 PMWhat sits atop the 2175? 51.4mm XPW jug?
Yessir. From MG2186, ported by Eric Copsey. It's my second one, first one I got from Tim Strunk, ported by Kevin. Now I'll probably sell my first jonny that size, 2166 I had Kevin port before I knew of the larger non XT top ends. Not that the XT is a slouch.
XT's don't get the love they deserve. I've enjoyed this and we'll pick it up again........it's time to eat. FINALLY!
Gonna have a shootout
2175
461
7900
Guess that's way off topic, oops.
At the time I retired 2 years ago, the 51.4mm xpw top end was NLA. Did they start making them again?
Just to mention there are some little dandy 3 cubers besides the Husky 346 .To name several J-Red 490.Partner 5000 plus Stihl 026 /260 .I did some work on a J-red 490 years ago only to find out it was Partner 5000 plus dressed up in red clothing .Took me a long time to find one for a reasonable price which came with a 500 Partner .The later is a works in progress with a good cylinder and an after market piston .However if I can find a good cylinder for either the J-RED or 5000 plus it will get that treatment . Then again a little work on 500 cylinder could amount to something .You'll never really know unless you try .
Quote from: Spike60 on December 26, 2024, 09:35:04 AMAt the time I retired 2 years ago, the 51.4mm xpw top end was NLA. Did they start making them again?
Not that I know of, but guys have hoarded them. They don't let them go cheap. I run AMSOIL 32:1 and am very careful about my tuning. ;-)
I've seen guys stick 181/281/288 cyls on 272s. Doubts about bottom end holding up, Or 395 on 288. Might try that.
Well, there's a couple of interesting recipes. Complicated too. Lot of dimensional riddles to solve. In the end, half of the weight savings, which I assume is the objective, could be gained with a light weight bar. And in the case of the 288, ditch the big front spring and set the saw up as the 288 lite.
Funny you brought this up though, because I just did a 288, and going through the gasket drawer, I laid a 272 and 288 gasket one another and noticed how close they were. Hmm. But more work than I'd mess with. Gets to the point of diminishing returns for the time and effort involved.
Even though this thread has taken on the characteristics of a PM exchange, we should keep it here. Hopefully more guys will join in with some of their own ideas. Either way, this section could use some activity. Sometimes it goes 3 to 4 days with no posts at all.
Even though this has strayed from the original question, I'm getting a lot of information which is good.
Honestly, whatever I get is likely to stay stock unless I buy something already ported. The 51 was my limbing, small firewood saw and had enough power for that work even at 40+ years old. But things like a thin kerf bar, other brand discussion, etc. all have value.
I'll probably buy something before the end of the year so it hits 2024 taxes. I need a second saw in the truck and something lighter than my Stihl MS362 is preferred. That's a good saw but I don't need to be lifting that on smaller stuff.
Quote from: TreefarmerNN on December 23, 2024, 05:45:13 PMAfter stupidly leaving a tailgate open on my truck, I'm in the market to replace an old but really good running Husky 51. Stihl dealers are closer than Husky but I really liked that Husky.
What say you? I'm definitely in the older category having passed 70.
Well, I'll hit 70 in a few months, is that close enough? ffcheesy
I got lucky several years ago and salvaged from dead a Husky 350 that I came to love for it's lightness and reliability. Unfortunately, my son claimed it back (just for one job, but I haven't seen it since) once he saw it running. The I found another dead one for 20 bucks and after some work (new P&C, odds and ends) I got it running too. It's the first saw I grab for yard bucking, sawmill trimming, and limbing. I gut most of my mushroom trees with it. The 350 has some of the pro features depending on the specific iteration like adjustable oiler and decomp valve. It's just a nice saw. The only downside is the muffler bolts keep working out so you have to stay on that. I also have a 450 but the 350 just seems smaller and lighter and with very little invested in it, it's a pleasure to use. If I found another in a yard sale of something, I would buy it without question, running or not.
We all have our preferences when it comes to chainsaws. I have had a 266XP for 39 years and like that saw, but in the last four years I have come to realize there are lots of nice chainsaws in the woods. I picked up a 154SE and a 61, impressed with both. Found another 154 with heated grips and a 66, just too hard to leave them at yard sales when you know how good those saws are. I like the ease of repairs, reliability and performance. And the 45, 49, 51 and 55 are also very good saws.
I have a ported 2152wh and a stock 2152. They are great little saws. I just sold a fairly new 261 as it just didn't measure up.
My ported 2171 and 2165 I'll probably keep forever.
I've cycled through the 562 and 565. Both gone, back to the Jreds.
The 500's I have are for another days discussion and currently running a 462 which I just relegated to my firewood processor.
I never tried the 22xx series but just bought a 2252 off eBay, bad decision. Has a new ring, but pistons scored and the seller said to turn up the idle and blamed my fuel.....well it's an auto tune moron!
So has become an eBay claim.
What's the general consensus on 22xx saws?
22 series saws are little different than Husky versions. I have a 2353, 2260, and 2262. The large mount 2260. No such thing you say? Built my own. 562 short block. Had to use up some 2260 parts. Actually run it quite a bit. Like the 2353.
It'll never get better than the 2171. Hang on to 'em.
If you like a 50cc saw, the Husky 545mk2 is a great choice. It's essentially a 550mk2, missing a couple of the premium parts like the mag clutch cover, and with a slightly lighter tune and a lesser price tag too. (It also has an easier pulling starter than the 550mk2.)
Basically it's the "fleet model" of the 550XP, just like the 555 is to the 562Xp, and the 565 is to the 572Xp.
I got one for my son, and he loves it, as do I. I think all 3 saws above are all under appreciated for what they are.
Don't let the secret out Eddy, or people might start buying these saws. ffsmiley
I'm not sure there's an actual difference on the starters. Husky changed the geometry on this stuff. 550M2 is pretty easy to pull. Neither saw comes with a deco; and you don't miss it either. In fact, the 560M2 and 562M2 also come without a deco. One thing I don't get is that there is no 555M2; it's still built on the 1st generation chassis. (not an issue IMO) But, there is an M2 narrow mount case, as evidenced by there being a 560M2.
What has hurt the sales of these models is that for years, (decades), the 2nd and 3rd numbers in a given model denote/approximate the displacement. Most people believe these saws are all smaller than their XP brothers.
My favorite of these AT models is a 560XPG. And it comes with a story......
I had ordered a couple of 562 short blocks to have in stock. However, Some narrow mount 560XP short blocks mistakenly arrived in the country, and that's what I got. Called Husky and was told I'd get a credit, they'd ship the right one, and.........that I could just "destroy" the 560 case. Yeah, right. ffcheesy
So I built myself a proper 560XPG. Mostly new parts other than a few of the G parts like the generator coil and flywheel. Surprisingly, they actually had a 560XPG stater decal in stock. So, the saw is correct in every way.
Took advantage of the narrow mount and set her up with .325 narrow kerf and an 8 pin sprocket. Super quick and smooth.
I think I have a 325 9pin, can't remember if it's large spline for my 2156 or small for 346...I think large. Very fast limber.
This is pretty good too. 24" of 3/8" lp, not very durable though. Fine in clean/green.
https://youtu.be/CmjnViXIawg?si=zWFUt6Gv0_Ln_txG
My newer ported 50cc Jonny had some nice features, smooth, started well, fuel level sight. But it wasn't cheap and I was afraid to break it doing tree work. I think I decided to just keep to my 2050s for 50cc...then at a GTG I ran one of Kevin's 346s and realized the value. Or just got sucked in, whatever you want to call it. Point being those new Jonny's and huskies are nice.
Quote from: Spike60 on December 25, 2024, 03:44:54 PM2152 = 353 45mm capped port jug. Never liked them at all. Later 350 used the same jug with a dished piston. Made it even more lame.
Almost brings a tear to my eye to hear you say that, Bob. I've got 3 (or is it 4) 2152's...I guess I've lost count. I think it's my favorite saw in the fleet.
On the other hand, I love my Redmax GZ5000, too so maybe it's my favorite. Guess that decision depends on the day, and perhaps how well I sharpened the chain. ffcheesy The Redmax is the only new saw I ever bought for myself and the only thing that could make it better is if the decal said "Jonsered" and "2252" on the side. But I decided swapping the graphics isn't my plan. I do see one new in the box pop up for sale every now and then and it's tempting to grab another.
Curious: is the 2252/GZ5000 equivalent to the 545MK2 or another version?
Chuckle - I just stumbled on this old vid of mine while looking for something else
https://youtu.be/_4mqfamy_Vs?si=QJZcCgcDwR68sJpJ
https://youtu.be/sm4BnHt9D5w?si=aWAcTaXNhdJg-CPb
Oh, and the autotune was nice. I cut all day the last two days and was tweaking carbs up and down with the weather. Some models are a pain to access the screws. My 2166 xtorque is my favorite for that because I just use the spline drive screwdriver. Slips right on by itself every time.
IIRC, 2252 is 545
346 ported by Kevin for sale, $800
https://opeforum.com/threads/346-ne-xs.31843/
2252 is equivalent to the 545M1. I don't think there were any red M2's in either brand unless they snuck them near the end. I never brought in any of the red max labeled saws. Once they killed Jonny as a brand, that was it for me.
One of the reasons I'm so negative on the 45mm capped port jugs is they were the ones that were notorious for spitting out the muffler bolts. The rest of the models in that family didn't share that problem.
I was sad to see the Jonsereds brand go away. They were actually a very popular saw line up here in northern MN from at least the 80's onward. They had a distributor (Tilton I think was the name) that got them out there pretty well, and a local Farm and Fleet store sold a ton of them.
I looked at and picked up several saws today both Husky and Stihl. Each had some things I liked and some that were missing. I may end up with a pro level saw to get adjustable oiling.
The MS261 saw was a few ounces lighter than the 251. The price was much heavier though. As expected the Stihl dealer wasn't willing to make any price adjustments or throw in any extras. The Stihl saws had no purge valves which I think really help with starting after a saw has been sitting on the shelf.
The lower level saws only had one nut holding the bar on. Again, you pay for what you get.
The Husky 550 MkII seemed like a lot more saw than the 540 for not a lot more cost. The 550 and Stihl 261 are certainly competitive while I found the 540 and 251 a step down. Stihl has an advantage in dealer service in our area while Husky comes with some extras at Tractor Supply, (spare chain, oil, etc.). The 261 is slightly higher but both are in the same ballpark.
Quote from: Spike60 on December 30, 2024, 06:32:09 PMOne of the reasons I'm so negative on the 45mm capped port jugs is they were the ones that were notorious for spitting out the muffler bolts. The rest of the models in that family didn't share that problem.
I thought it was just the 2150/350 that had the problem with the muffler bolts. I was under the impression the 2152 was fine...or maybe it had something to do with the muffler support bracket. Haven't had any loose bolts yet, though maybe I should check them.
The metal case 2152 and 353 did have that bracket across front of the muffler that held things in check to some degree. The 1st generation 2150/350 with the 44mm open port top end, shared with the metal case 2149 and 351, were all fine with hanging on to their muffler bolts. As were the clamshell 2141/340 and 2145/345. (Lotta models, huh?) It was the 45mm top ends that had the muffler issue that was WAY beyond acceptable.
But, yes. Keep an eye on them.
That is good to know, Bob. I'll keep my eye on them.
I found a Husky 359 available locally for a price that seemed reasonable and picked it up today. It starts and idles ok. Little oil coming off the chain so I took the chain/sprocket cover off and it was a mess inside. Evidently the bar had plugged and enough oil and sawdust had combined to just be a mess.
I thought those saws had a .325 chain but this one is 3/8" pitch. The PO must have hit steel or rocks with the chain that was on it as one side of the chain had a really odd wear pattern and was very dull. I did one pass with the file but it's going to take another one to get that chain back in shape.
Hopefully I won't regret the purchase. It's a bit heavier than I was hoping for but not bad. Once I get it thoroughly clean and a sharp chain, I'll see how it really cuts.
359 is a decent saw, but I also thought it should feel lighter than it does. I think every chassis has at least one thing to look out for, and with these it's the plastic intake boot clamp on the early models. It could get loose and cause a significant air leak that would take out the top end. Easy check is to try and move it back and forth with your thumb. If it moves, you want to replace it with the metal clamp for sure.
359's all came from the factory with 3/8. 357, and the better looking 2156, could be ordered with .325. So the parts exist to go either way on all models. But it requires more than just a sprocket change. Large vs small spline drums are involved. Even the oil gears are different. Same confusion existed with the earlier 254/257/262 chassis.
I did check and the saw has the metal boot clamp so hopefully it's good. The guy threw in 10 chains, mostly all dull but few of them are ground down. A couple were sharpened with a grinder and it looks like a couple, including the one on the saw were sharpened with an undersized file. Most of them are useable but will need considerable sharpening.
Good on the clamp. ffsmiley
I'd be the same way on most of those chains. The work you can get out of them is worth more than the work you need to put into them.
I have a 2159 EHP ported for me 20 years ago, still one of my favourite saws.
I am a fan of those saws ported. Can't say I've run one stock.
3/8" 20" is probably the most practical KISS setup. I just used to like to mess around and try different stuff a lot.
I think I posted the vids already, but depending on wood species and use, I run 3/8" LP 24", .325" 20" - I have the stuff to run .325" 24", just haven't, but I think I might run into chip flow problems (unless I run skip). The smaller pitches take less power to pull but dull faster.
I have run a .325" 20" 9 pin large spline rim I think. Easy switch and limbs like mad. Chain probably needs to be a link longer. Stihl .325" Narrow kerf is awesome - 23RS
That's why I have a 9 pin .325 rim I've never used Dave. ffcheesy Standard chains don't fit. Especially on a large mount saw. We never evenn owned a breaker/spinner. We sold a LOT of chain, often by the case. No way I'm spinning chain to save 25 cents a loop or whatever it was. I suppose it would be a good way to punish an employee, but I liked the kid we had working for us. ffsmiley
I related in Post #7 that I had left my Husky 51 on the tailgate of my truck and someone else picked it up. I was pretty sure it was an Amazon driver but neither Amazon customer service or the local Amazon depot could tell me who the driver was. (They had left a package on our door between when the saw fell off and when I returned to look for it.) I posted signs in the area but after a couple of weeks, I replaced the saw.
This past week, I got a call from a driver who had seen the signs and had my saw. We met up on Friday and sure enough, it was my saw. He got my profuse thanks along with some green as a token of my appreciation for his honesty. So now I have a Husky 359 to go with my 51 which has a little road rash on the bottom of the handle but I can see no other damage. My Stihl is feeling outnumbered- can an ordinary person have too many chainsaws?
Great news and thanks for passing along. Always nice to know there a good folks out there.
Quote from: TreefarmerNN on January 12, 2025, 06:50:47 PMcan an ordinary person have too many chainsaws?
No idea.
I have 4 running and more not running. I don't think that's too many.
Well okay, maybe it would be better if I had fewer that weren't running but ....
Then again, I'm not ordinary and neither are most people I know.
That's a good feeling for someone to be honest and bring it back, even if it's a bit bruised up.
Nah, you'll never have too many saws.
Too many saws may not be a problem. My son called last night and is coming up this weekend. I have a feeling he was thinking he might be the solution for too many saws. He doesn't need a saw as his house has no trees that can't be cut with a reciprocating saw but he was asking a lot of questions, lol.
Quote from: Spike60 on January 08, 2025, 08:43:24 AMThat's why I have a 9 pin .325 rim I've never used Dave. ffcheesy Standard chains don't fit. Especially on a large mount saw. We never evenn owned a breaker/spinner. We sold a LOT of chain, often by the case. No way I'm spinning chain to save 25 cents a loop or whatever it was. I suppose it would be a good way to punish an employee, but I liked the kid we had working for us. ffsmiley
All the possibilities and money savings...got some free 24" 404 loops, needed a couple links out. Have a couple 36" loops I got cheap or free that need them. Stihl (or raisman) semi chisel .404 chain seems to cut dirty wood with impunity. Thoroughly disappointed with Oregon 3/8" semi.
I buy 36" once used never sharpened 3/8" stihl chains for $16 when I need it, break and spin to desired length.
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