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Title: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: Kraynes on July 05, 2025, 08:30:37 AM
Recently loaded 1500 bdft of SWP 2x6x8' into the l200 Nyle 20' container kiln. 
Started at the recommended 100° DB and 87° WB. 
Average MC was 44.5% on 6/29
MC is down to 39% and DB/WB is increased to 110/96
It seems to be drying super slow, or am I over thinking it?
I'm in Southern WV, ambient RH ~85% and daytime temps in the high 80's. 
Kiln vent runs a decent amount in the daytime, is this humid air replacing moisture? 
Actual kiln temps- 110° DB and 96.9° WB. 
The first few days in the kiln the compressor ran nearly continuous pulling a lot of free water. It has slowed and very seldom kicks on now. 
Is there something I'm doing wrong, or something I should be doing different? 
I've dried a lot of poplar, white/red oak with no issues. 
First time drying Pine and it seems odd to me. Any help is appreciated. 
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: customsawyer on July 05, 2025, 09:57:43 AM
I've always heard SWP stood for Solid Wood Panel. Please educate me on the type of wood you are drying. 
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: Kraynes on July 05, 2025, 10:29:14 AM
My mistake, meant EWP Eastern White Pine. 
Not sure where my mind was to typed "SWP"
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: doc henderson on July 05, 2025, 11:03:49 AM
I would think the wet bulb depression (RH) is all that matters to the wood.  it may have the compressor working harder when air is exchanged.  It is 2 inches thick.  can you check a surface MC.  Does it need more heat to get the water to move?  If the surface is dry, there is nothing to evaporate.  I am not a kiln guy, just basing this on my science background and keen interest in these problems. ffsmiley
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: Kraynes on July 05, 2025, 12:39:20 PM
It is 2" thick. I lowered the WB from 97 to 95, this seemed to help get water moving a little. If it stalls again I will raise the DB to 115°
Surface appears to be ~ 18%-19%, internal probes are showing 38%. 
Seems as though I may be pulling the entrained water now, maybe it just needed a little kickstart. I've had to do similar with Whiteoak, but I figured white pine would've been an easy one to dry. 
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: doc henderson on July 05, 2025, 06:26:44 PM
It is more forgiving.  see what this does.  got to get the water to the surface.
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: customsawyer on July 06, 2025, 07:14:58 AM
With my SYP, I dry it as fast as I can. Don't matter if it's green or air dried some. I set my dry bulb at 125 and wet bulb at 68. 
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: Kraynes on July 06, 2025, 08:24:13 AM
Appreciate the help, today I will set like that and dry fast. 
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: Stephen1 on July 06, 2025, 09:49:06 AM
In my IDRY, EWP is get it dry and out of the kiln ASAP. Pretty hard to do any damage.
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: K-Guy on July 07, 2025, 08:55:54 AM

Just go to 120 DB 75 WB and let her go. You won't hurt it. You can do that right from the start.
Title: Re: Trouble drying SWP Nyle L200
Post by: JD Guy on July 07, 2025, 01:35:45 PM
I've never run a kiln but sounds a lot like smoking Boston Butts when you hit the "stall"  ffcheesy