So whats your opinon on a C5500 4x4 and build a 16 log bed to put on it.It would be used for small logging jobs like 1-20 acres which the big loggers wont fool with because the job is to small.I figure it could haul abou 4 0r 5 tons of logs.
For this class truck it would probably be the best choice... your only other choice would be the Ford F550...4x4...
I dont own one but The C5500 has a wide range of options including air ride seats etc due to
the higher cab than the F550 which only has the same cab as the F150 F250 etc.....
The Allison tranny comes in several options also if you went to the Auto...
I dont know about the economics of trucking small loads of wood, around here they went from
that size of trucks to tandems, to tandems with pup trailers then to tractor trailers because they said they couldnt haul enough to make it pay....
They truck from daylight to dark and then go home and beat and pound on the trucks
half the night to get them running for the next day...
My trucker leaves at 5AM and rarely gets home before dark...every day...
If you cut wood also I would leave the trucking to the truckers as it is a hard competitive racket, at least around here...
but that would be a nice little truck if you need that class of truck in 4x4...
I would love to have one of the new big chevy 4x4's. I would put a log loader and a dump bed for muti uses.
Air ride seats fit in a Ford cab. The previous owner put some in there. They are a little high but ride nice. CushNaire is the brand if I remember.
well I told my buddy about my idea and he must of thought it was a good idea because he went out and bought one,$41,000 out the door.It's in the shop now having a 16' log bed made for it now.He's real good and picking out venver trees in the woods.I think this idea is to hual venver logs mostly.He sent th truck to a guy that all he does is build log truck beds.My buddy was telling me how this log bed was going to have alot of spiceal stuff on it,the bed will cost about $6000.When he gets it done I'll take some pictures of it.
I know nothing about the Chevy, but, if it is going to be a log truck and has just two axles (4x4) I would make sure it had Detroit lockers and was a diesel. Myself, I would get a standard transmission so repair costs were low and so you could actually rock it if it gets stuck off road.
I would think the next three items, after the bed, would be a very solid headache rack that protects the whole cab and winches front and back.
Rod,
I think you and your buddy will be very happy with the truck. I looked extensively at one earlier this summer (5500 4x4, diesel, Allison, ½ turn locker). It didn't quite match up with what I need, so for now I'm going to use the local truckers while I keep my eye open for a good self loader.
Also, I think the Ford truck division (>F350) was sold to Sterling.
Cary
Cary,I'll see how my buddy does with his truck,and if it works for him then I might get one.He figures he can hual about 1500 to 2000feet on it.Its and auto with some sort of jake brake on it.He said it gets good MPG.its a desil motor.
That's very smart! Let someone else workout the details first.
I wouldn't think you would have much use for a Jake brake with the smart auto, but I guess every little bit counts. I have the same basic setup in my ¾ ton pickup and it is a dream to use. The smart autos handle a load very nicely and really help save the brakes.
Cary
caryr,
Theres companies out there that make an autotranny locker so you can use a jake brakeR. Lock up the tranny and hit the jake brakeR
The new firetruck we just got has an Allison automatic with an exhaust brake. When the switch for the brake is on the tranny shifts itself to 2 and the exhaust brake come on when you let off the throttle. It really slows you down. I think it might be tricky in winter. Might have to turn it off.
Will
Quote from: thedeeredude on August 19, 2005, 05:49:44 PM
Theres companies out there that make an autotranny locker so you can use a jake brake
I didn't realize this was an after market addition, but I do know how it works with the Allison. My point was that I didn't know how useful it was going to be, which was somewhat confirmed by Will. I have had about 10k behind/in my pickup and gone down some fairly steep hills with minimal need for brakes. If you have a large load in/on the bed like Rod's friend it will probably work fine, but I wouldn't want to use it with too much trailer behind me or on bad road conditions.
Cary
just go all out and but a nice big old red Mack ;D
He had a new Mack but he sold it.His dad is a big time logger but him and his brother had a falling out so now he's going on his on in logging .
Hmm. My father and mother have a Gulfstream Motorhome sitting on a C5500. With the Allison Tranny, it is a pleasure to drive with a load. With all the motorhome stuff, the empty weight is somewhere around 16-18kk. The hitch is rated for 10k, so it definetely has some decent power and weight capabilities. It would likely do a bit more, but they like to keep those under 26k Combined so they don't require CDL's I guess.
Dave
Righ,on a c5500 you don't need a CDL ,at lest thats what my buddy said even tho he has his CDL.He said he's oing to stick a farm plate on it
You don't need a CDL for truck. But as soon as you hook a trailer to it with a GVWR over 10,000# you will need one wheather your over 26k or not.
He said something about not needing some other stuff going across state lines with a smaller truck under CDL.
I was recently at the local lumber dealer and he had a c5500 there.
I crawled under the front end and measured the ground clearance at the lowest point
it was only a little less than 7 inches from some sort of fastener on the tie rod ends...
He might have to be really carefull on logging type roads.. maybe the lumber yard had some
sort of low profile model???
I pull 10-tons regularly w/ an f-250 powerstroke. I use a gooseneck dual tandem trailer. I have gone as high as 12 tons, weighing in at a total of just over 38,000lbs at the mill scales. I don't have a CDL and I haven't ever been stopped by the D.O.T. I usually run the highways loaded at 60-65mph easily. I could pull 15-16 tons with this truck, but I wouldn't be able stop it. The truck is all factory w/o any chip. It will take off with 10 tons(I run a 6-speed) in granny low w/o feeding it any fuel. I know of a Dodge 3/4 tn that also does what I do. I don't know about the c5500 but I know that a regular 3/4 chevy couldn't do this. It is nothing but a half ton w/ a factory body lift to make it look like more than it is. Get under one and see for yourself.
You may not have been stopped by DOT. But i bet you you get in a accident you will be in trouble. legal limit for towing without cdl is 10,000# unless of course you are pulling a boat or mobile home.
i think if you have a fram plate you can two over 10000 without a cdl
With farm plates you can tow and have truck that either would quilify for CDL. You can drive up to 150 miles. But the kicker with that is you need to make sure it is not being used commercally.
When the DOT pull me over I tell them I'm not for hire and they get off he step of the truck and I drive on.My buddy put on the side of his tractor trailer,''NOT FOR HIRE''. :D
I've never had the DOT check to see how far from home I was.
Around here they seem to be getting wise to people going the farm plate route. So they have been know to follow to make sure they really are using for that purpose.
I carry full commercial insurance w/ 1mil liability on the truck and 1mil commercial liability on the trailer. The insurance company knows the size of the truck by the vin number. I do not run farm tags but I will in the future. In Arkansas the don't seem to bother farm tagged vehicles. As a matter of fact, farm machinery in Arkansas always has the right-of-way. This may not apply to vehicles but they do show favoritism none the less. I was going to get a CDL but the tester informed me that I woudn't need to get any if I ran farm tags. I'll just wait and see. I never got anywhere, nor did anyone else I know by "playing it safe" all the time!
David_c ,I'd just pull over if I saw the DOT following me for a real long time.Thats what hey do around here.I you are on privit property they cant do nothing
Rod my luck they would pull over and wait me out.
What I don't get is what will the DOT say if the did follow me into the log yard or were ever?
rod if they prove your hauling commercial with out a cdl they can give you a ticket for driving with out one as far as i know. down here they dont say much to us but then we are in the sticks too.
tnlogger,your right,but the DOT doesn't come around here much,the town doesn't even have money to hire a cop,so if theres a problem some were the Mayor does the police work. :D
Here in Michigan I see weighmasters ocassionally on both the interstate and state highways. I have seen them pull over and inspect pickup trucks hauling gooseneck trailers with heavy loads. I watch as one was getting several tickets and he was very unhappy. I beleive that a trailer weighing over 10,000 lbs loaded will need at least a trailer endorsement CDL. The state is also requiring all vechiles that carry or are rated over 10,000 lbs for hauling to have a USDOT number.
Farmerdoug
We have a "tough-one" on the woodhaulers in this area. The county and side roads are watched also.
I heard today that our Governor is going to try and raise revenue for the state by increasing the police ticket quotas. No new taxes, aay. ::) >:(
So I guess the truckers are in for even more now along with the rest of us.
Farmerdoug
MS DOT within the past 6-8 months has decided to enforce what they say has been on the books for years with regard to trucks and gooseneck trailers. A F250, single wheel GVW is 10K, F350 dually is 12,500. If you are driving a P/U and gooseneck or any other trailer that combined GVW with P/U is over 26,001, based on the total shown on data plates, you have to have a CDL.
I have a F350 dually (12,500 GVW) with B-26K tag ($540.00 per yr,) and 24 ft gooseneck, (16,000 GVW), I had to get Class A CDL with airbrake exception to be legal. I had been pulling the trailer for 5 years without CDLand had never been stopped. CDL required both a written and drivers test and about $100.00 total. DOT was writing tickets to people with P/U and empty Goosnecks based on the data plates of each vehicle. I know of one person that was fined $250.00 with an empty trailer.
Farm tags are only legal if you are hauling wood from your personal farm property for sale to mills. I have a good friend who has a big International 18-wheeler logtruck (80K gross Farm Tag) who hauls wood from his property with regular license legally. I think enforcement was a way to make more money for the state, NO NEW TAXES, and justify their jobs.
wwsjr, I guess your governor has been talking to our governor. I do not know what party your governor is but ours in a demoncrat, but in politics we get screwed by everyone usually. ::)
Farmerdoug