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Title: Network Attack
Post by: Jeff on September 21, 2005, 08:37:30 AM
The Forum sever is doing AOK, but the network it is on has been under a denial of service attack all morning. You may experience slow pages or not found until the network administrators can block the attack.  >:(
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: farmerdoug on September 21, 2005, 08:42:55 AM
Jeff,

  I will never undersand why people do that.  A person should do something constructive instead of destroying others work.  ::)   

  They need a job and some values.

Farmerdoug
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: Jeff on September 21, 2005, 08:49:48 AM
Yea, they need a job. Making License plates, breaking rock or cutting weeds on the side of the road.
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: Kevin_H. on September 21, 2005, 08:53:31 AM
man that was close, I almost took a hammer to my gateway this morning.  :D

Then again the day is early  ;D
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: woodbowl on September 21, 2005, 08:54:17 AM
I got some funny loaded pages this morning. I figured I needed to clean out and update my computor. Tried it again later and loaded fine. I not sure what "service attack" is. It sounds like a server problem from within somehow. Could it be intentional or is it mainly unintentional?
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: ronwood on September 21, 2005, 08:55:42 AM
I sure would like to say what I would do with them but not on the fourm. Might get kicked off ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: Jeff on September 21, 2005, 09:00:19 AM
Its intentional.

Here is a good discription of what a denial of service attack it.

http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/denial_of_service.html
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: DonE911 on September 21, 2005, 09:41:11 AM
I thought it was my sat. service.....  I almost called them to complain.
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: Murf on September 21, 2005, 11:36:14 AM
Ok, here's the second dumb question of the day. I understand what a DOS attack is, and even how it works....... but;

What the heck do they get out of doing it?

Do they hold the network owners for ransom or something, pay us or we shut you down?

Or is it just another case of "Dog Lick" syndrome? (They do it because they can...... )  :D
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: bitternut on September 21, 2005, 12:37:11 PM
I would hack off both their arms at the shoulder and let them peck away at the keyboard with their nose. Of course both my hands would be at the back of their head helping them puch the keys.

Guess this would never happen so I will have to just dream about it.
Title: Re: Network Attack
Post by: rebocardo on September 22, 2005, 03:52:04 PM
> What the heck do they get out of doing it?

As examples:

In simple terms if you cause enough traffic on some servers you cause an overflow in a buffer, that allows you to load programs on the crashed machine once it is down or it allows packets through where you can access the root directory to plant programs or to run ADMIN programs or look through directories.

Sometimes you crash a router just so you can see what the person uses for a password when they sign in to reboot it over an unsecured link.

Sometimes a DoS is not that, but appears to be, when a zombie is spewing out tons of spam to every e-mail address possible to the targeted network.