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General Forestry => General Board => Topic started by: Ernie on September 22, 2005, 03:22:35 PM

Poll
Question: Should your country close its borders when the avian flu starts to spread
Option 1: definitely votes: 7
Option 2: Possibly votes: 3
Option 3: No way votes: 0
Option 4: Too much hassle votes: 2
Option 5: What's bird flu? votes: 0
Option 6: Not Possible votes: 11
Title: POLL Bird flu
Post by: Ernie on September 22, 2005, 03:22:35 PM
This is the most recent thinking here in New Zealand

http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3419499a11,00.html

Thanks for your vote
Title: Re: Bird flu
Post by: Jeff on September 22, 2005, 03:25:02 PM
I have not voted as I can think of an answer I would choose. In actuallity, if an avian super flu becomes a pandemic, closing the borders is simply not even possible in this day and age.
Title: Re: Bird flu
Post by: Jeff on September 22, 2005, 03:25:39 PM
Ernie I added an option to your poll.
Title: Re: Bird flu
Post by: Ernie on September 22, 2005, 03:28:32 PM
Thanks Jeff,  I should have thought of that option
Title: Re: Bird flu
Post by: Jeff on September 22, 2005, 03:32:36 PM
Interesting reading from this link. I actually did some research into this one night after watching an interesting National Geographic spot on the subject. Had this link in favorites.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/
Title: Re: POLL Bird flu
Post by: Bro. Noble on September 22, 2005, 09:45:22 PM
I'm a little confused,

Even if the birds see the 'closed, do not enter' signs,  what if they don't read english or don't give a DanG?

;)
Title: Re: POLL Bird flu
Post by: Tom on September 22, 2005, 09:54:25 PM
I've been giving this some thought, Br'er Noble.  I think that what the Government would do, not being able to control the birds, would be to make everybody who gets sick go sit outside of the border till they got well.  :)
Title: Re: POLL Bird flu
Post by: Onthesauk on September 22, 2005, 09:57:28 PM
A book worth reading is "The Great Influenza" by John M. Barry, about the 1918 influenza, (read bird flu,) attack.  Interesting, frighening, gives you a greater appreciation of our health care system.  Had aunts and uncles who went through it and has been interesting to me how little has been written about it and how few stories there were about it.  

As a result, I've been following a lot of the international news stories about the current bird flu and it is not reassuring.
Title: Re: POLL Bird flu
Post by: Tom on September 22, 2005, 10:06:44 PM
you're right, onthesauk.  Influenza is a terrible disease, for the young and the old especially.  It seems that the only real combat is identification and vaccination though.
Title: Re: POLL Bird flu
Post by: Onthesauk on September 22, 2005, 10:15:32 PM
Oddly enough, the version that went around in 1918 was toughest on those in the prime of their lives, 17 through 30 years old.  Their immune system is what eventually killed them and their system was the strongest.  The young and the elderly fared better.

With much smaller populations in thoses days, there are still estimates of 50 to 100 million dead over about 18 months, no one really knows for sure. 

Need something to lay awake and worry about at night?
Title: Re: POLL Bird flu
Post by: Tom on September 22, 2005, 10:32:17 PM
 Nah.  there's too much of that running around now.   I'll lay awake looking for something to make me smile.  :D
Title: Re: POLL Bird flu
Post by: CHARLIE on September 23, 2005, 01:17:16 AM
It would be impossible for the U.S. and the European countries to close their borders. But small countries.....especially those that are already isolated (ie: New Zealand, Iceland etc) might be able to.  I'll just try to wash my hands frequently, keep my hands away from my face and not get to close to others. 
Title: Re: POLL Bird flu
Post by: NZJake on September 23, 2005, 05:31:59 AM
Thanks for the info Ernie. Bird flu is seriously spooky stuff. It's good to know a little about it.