was looking for a F-4 Dion in good condition and not to expensive...finally i get that one... 8) just can't wait to try that
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Congratulations Old_JD :D That ought to make forwarding in Winter a lot easier 8)
SWEET smiley_thumbsup
Super 8) Toy!!! I want one too ;D
JD, maby I been up a holler to long but I have never seen one of those. Tell a little or a lot about it and more pics.
Very cool !! 8) 8)
I'm jealous ;D
What kind of engine do those have ???
C'est tres belle n'est pas?
thank's all
More pic will come soon,i will recive the machine on saturday,i drove 800 mile to find that one :o
the engine is a bit funny....75 hp 4 cyl diesel engine made in Italy on the name of "sun engine" distribute by detroit diesel,very pop engine en mining and construction equip,it's fan cooler like the deutz but iron cast whit independante cylinder,motor whit very low vibration...only 350 hour's on it ;)
Paw the F-4 it's center pivot machine whit 4 traction track..23 foot long whit that 14 foot long Hardy H.D. log loader...4 speed chevy transmision,powerfull 15 gal hydro pump and can be drive as forward or backward as the same..hope that can help ... :)
I looked at the same machine in Quebec. The guy did a demo for me looked very very good. I am not ready to buy yet. Do you plan to go all winter with this machine. How far will you travel with your logs. If you don't mind saying approx what did it cost. I saw prices of 30,000.00 for a fairly new one all rebuilt at the shop. I hope you post more info and pictures . When will you start work . Please keep us up to date. I hope to buy one sometime in the future and would be very interested in your reports on the machine.
Here's one deep in the 'Timber Harvest and Equipment' forum, the owner lives about 20 miles from me. The machine was used on a lot the marketing board was managing for the Town of Hartland.
Link (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=13313.msg137136#msg137136)
Congrats on your new purchase. ;D
I will keep u update whit the machine quebeqnewf,If u can find one "all" rebuilt for that prize it will be good.At dion corp. all rebuilt whit diesel engine start at 45.000.00$..i pay 24.000.00$ but track are not new,motor,loader,hydro systeme as 350 hour's cylinder and "pin",all the rest is pretty new
I plan to use that machine for small wood,ever green,and watever left over behind my skidder
for any info if u plan to purchase one u can call me for more info ;)
SD is this come out of the logging ans sawmilling Journal ???
here more pic
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here more info
http://www.forestnet.com/archives/Sept_02/harvesting.htm
Actually, i think I may have gotten them from the Journal now that I think of it. But, I also used to take pictures of jobs on sites managed by the marketing board.
Thats the place I had the demo F4 Dion its on BLVD Wilfred Hamel in Qc. How many cord of wood per load would you say? The guy did a demo and he drove it up a large snowbank with no problem I was impressed. The ones I saw Had Deutz engines. A very good motor. Do you think one of these machines could do the same work with a sleigh and log loader instead of a groomer
http://www.ebertwelding.com/used/cdn_list/index.html
Paul
Not sure who that is directed to, but anything could be possible. I for one am not an engineer. I think if I had one of those machines and the know how, I'de make'r fit. ;D :D
qubecnewf the big thing about the Dion is the 4 powered track,if u go whit other's kind of trailing u will only have 2 traction track.here one for sale in forestville at 43.000.00$ :o
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ever consider some J5 like this one whit hydro systeme :P..that one is in quebec city area at 6,500.00$
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The Dion arrive today 8) 8)...look like x-mas is bfore is time :D...did i have fun ;)..-15 celcius here this morning ,start like nothing :) that Hardy loader is lot more strong then the metavic :o here few pic ....
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That type of machine would come in real handy on my woodlot. But, I haven't got wood ready for harvest for 30 years. ;D
Thanks for the pics :)
Hey Swamp. Maybe he'll consider selling it to you in thirty years. By then you oughta be able to get a real good deal on it!!!!!!!!! ;D
8) 8) 8)
:D :D :D :D :D Take good care of'r JD :D :D ;D
my old men pension will come. ;)..........in 24 year's :D :D
Probably when 30 years comes, I won't be interested in cutting any timber. I'll just let the moose stand in there under the trees. ;D When it was being cut 12 years ago I thought we were feeding a herd of cattle in there, then they never left. :D
I would imagine you have been using your new (toy) a bit now. How do you find it go. Have you tried it in any snow yet. I am wondering if it would be possible to hitch another sleigh behind the one that is attached and tow 2 . This would be across all level frozen ground and all softwood. Could this be done and if so what speed could you tow at. I would imagine if you were going back and forth on the same trail after a while you would have a real hard smooth road. You could use the loader to load the other sleigh and then hitch it up.
One other question about how many board ft of lumber would you saw out of one load of logs of the F4 Dion approx.
Quebecnewf
Paul
Congrads OLD_JD I bet you'll have a hoot wit that thing. I saw one years ago on www.lowimpactforestry.com and have wanted one ever since. There are a lot of those J5s up in northern New Brunswick and I've looked at a few of them. I always though the Dion was the same idea, I didn't know it was an articualting machine 8) Keep us up to date.
Quebecnewf,i am having good time whit the dion work great,i didn't have the chance to try in deep snow( we dont have much yet)
about hitching another sleigh behind,it could work but the machine is not made to go very fast,if ure pulling a good load,u cant go more them10-15 km i will said :-\
i can load about 900-1.000 bf a the time if they are all 12'Lg
here a few pic
in the wood
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arrive landing
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ready to unload
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very low sol impack
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I was talking to another guy who uses one of these machines to log up in Ont. He tells me the same thing great mach but a bit slow. He says they are not real good in deep snow but as long as you are going back and forth over the same road it goes good. How do you find it in the woods can you go pretty well anywhere or do you have to cut a real good road first. Would it be able to follow a small excavator with a harvester head on it through the woods for instance ? How long to load a ful load and how long to unload on average. Sorry for all the questions but I am very interested in any and all info on this mach. What is fuel consumption per hr.
has anyone else in this forum used this type of machine if so jump in with your 2 cents worth.
Thanks
Quebecnewf
Quebecnewf, if you have a forestry school nearby they may have some FERIC reports about the machine.
The one I know of here, is older than JD's and he has alot of down time. It will handle some steeper terrain than a skidder but I think it's hard on the tracks with a load. I've seen it operate in small wood and thought it was slow at loading the wood. Let's just say the guy and his crew were never out there to make any production records. I could elaborate but I won't go there. ;) I did read one report that said the Dion does not need wide trails like most forwarders require.
FERIC have a link to a report they have, but you need membership to dowload it. You can find the link by doing a page search.
http://www.feric.ca/en/mempartner/reports/view.php?SR-108
There is a lot of reports on the Feric page I would like to read but they won't give me a membership. It is only open to companies I guess. To bad because I sure would like to read some of the reports. When I first purchased my bandmill 12 years ago I managed to buy a book on them that was put out by Feric and it was excellent.
Oh well I well keep gathering info from this site and other links on the net. This is by far one of the best sites I have ever found.
Quebecnewf
Hey, you guys don't realize where Quebecnewf is. He's across the straight from the Island of Newfoundland. :o
Long Link (http://uk.multimap.com/wi/browse.cgi?client=public&X=-6800000.30501769&Y=6500000.79400418&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=&zm=0&scale=4000000&right.x=4&right.y=95)
Harrington harbour info (http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/travel/canada/quebec/duplessis.htm)
Read this and you'll make the connection with his username. :)
And here I thought he lived up near Quebec city in Harrington, where the tree nursery is.
Holly geez! That's way past Sept Ile!
Its nice to see your enjoying your machine Quebecnewf! I like the design of the Dion! :)
hey old jd you should birng that baby up here to pa for a little while. we need to cut some wood that wood make things go a lot faster well break er in right ;D
quebecnewf,i can get almost everywhere in the wood as long i careful about the high stump.it's pretty low ground
It will sure work good behind a harvester ;). About the load in unload time :-\...depend on the operateur skill :D...but is pretty fast :). right now we run trow 5 gal per 8h working shift...not bad ;)
more pic will follow in a few day......
Swampdonkey
If you look at the picture of Harrington that is on the linl you posted. The small blue boat at the dock in the cove with the white wheelhouse is mine and the blue and white house in front of the church is my house. The buildings in the front with the green roofs are my business CMR Sales Inc. (a general store). That picture was taken from the deck of the Nordik Express the local coastal boat that carries passengers and freight along the coast. It has about 5 or 6 more trips and it will be finished for this season. There are more pictures on the net of the village. Do a Google search under Harrington Harbour and you will see more.
Quebecnewf
Q!uebecnewf, was it at Harrington they made that movie who was call ''the grand seduction" ???that place look pretty "unique"
to live up there a good sled is a "must"....be there w\ out it.....it can be like a texans w\out a good B.B.Q... ;D ;D
Your right
They did film the movie here two sumers ago. As a matter of fact if you have seen the movie the small girl who acts the part of the mayor's daughter who leaves town in the first part of the movie is my youngest daughter. My own movie star.
Harrington is a small fishing community located on an island about 300 people only. Main fishery in this area right now is crab but the cod is looking better and better each year. There is a community owned seafood plant in the community and that is the main employer in the community.
Come and visit
Quebecnewf
Another name for the film was 'Seducing Doctor Lewis'
http://www.tribute.ca/movie_spec/6985.htm