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Title: Storing pine cants.
Post by: sawyerkirk on October 03, 2002, 02:38:06 AM
For the past year I have been purchasing pine 12x12x12's about 2000bf/ mo. Being in southern indiana, without any pine, I have a big freight bill on it. I would like to get a truck load and use it as needed, TL would last me 4-6 months. Any suggestions on how to store it without too much degrade or loss? Going into winter I feel pretty safe, so it's not a big problem, just one more thing for me to think about. (side note) The last load I bought was pretty much all "Denim Pine" I love that term, kind of like "spalted"!!  Thanks
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: Ron Wenrich on October 03, 2002, 02:49:33 PM
I sawed several trailerloads of white pine that was used for post and beam houses.  They ranged in size from 4 x 6 to 10 x 12.

For seasoning and storage, we just put on sticks and made sure none of the pieces touched.  If there is a minimum of sapwood, blue stain won't be much of a problem.

What sort of degrade problems do you anticipate?  Season cracks are nearly a given on white pine.

What the heck is denim pine?
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: sawyerkirk on October 03, 2002, 02:57:59 PM
Denim=blue stain!! These are plain ole loblolly pine, I figure I'll just seal the ends and put them under roof. Dosen't matter if they stain , just going to be made into wedges.
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: Jeff on October 03, 2002, 03:25:45 PM
HA! My cousin was telling me about how thier church had paid the long dollar to put in a tongue and groove "marbled pine" ceiling. He showed me a picture when he came to visit me at the mill earlier this summer. Said it was more money then the regular pine, but it was the look they were after.

Blue Stain. I didnt have the heart to tell him.
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: Kevin on October 03, 2002, 04:13:32 PM
What`s his phone number?
I can`t keep a secret.   :D
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: Tom on October 03, 2002, 04:22:33 PM
That's marketing, Harold. :D
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on October 03, 2002, 05:01:52 PM
I'm WAY ahead of ya, Tom. I'm growin some Denim Pine right now. I got 22 Pine logs "converting" out behind the house, till I get my mill done. Painted the main frame today. It's YALLER !!  Couldn't bring myself to make it ERANJE !! :D :D
Harold
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: Jeff on October 03, 2002, 05:07:57 PM
anything but Bl**
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Tom, quit thinking in my posts.
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: Geoff on October 03, 2002, 06:39:14 PM
Up here in Ontario, we saw white pine all the time.  Your thought about winter cut is everything.  The cold prevents the stain.  I did a bunch of timbers for my future maple syrup building, sawing them about 2 years ago and storing them in the barn on fluted stickers.  The barn can get really hot especially in the middle of the summer.

No stain on them except for a bit on the edges of the ones that came out of logs that I left too long before I sawed them.  There is checking, but nothing above or beyond what would be normal?

Speaking as a true sawyer of course, what did you pay for the timbers?

Geoff
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: JoeyLowe on October 03, 2002, 08:44:33 PM
 ;D  Denim Pine???  Blue Stain... 8).  Finally finished all of those old creosote soaked, telephone poles for the doctor who is timberframing a barn and house.  Most of those poles made beautiful 12" x 12" beams, but boy did they ever stink.  He came by to pick up the last load and slabs today. (Yes, I make them haul their slabs away too.)  Anyway, he saw some pine cants that I had stacked over to the side.  All were denim (I like that word!)  ;D.  Just had to have them.  Thought they were wonderful.   Solved my problem and he got what he wanted too. 8)
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: woodman on October 03, 2002, 08:49:50 PM
The crafters always will pay more for clear BLUE wood.
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: ARKANSAWYER on October 04, 2002, 06:16:02 AM
  Well shoot!   I was wanting to keep this quite.  I can get twice as much for denim pine.  And denim buckshot really gets them going.  I age it and get orders faster then I can grow it.  Some like the marble look and some want it solid blue.  My wife wants to T&G  it and put on a light white stain and put it on our celings.  
  Now as soon as I get a logolsol to make T&G I will be in bussiness.
ARKANSAWYER
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: SawBilly on October 04, 2002, 01:56:40 PM
Ok boys, I got the stuff of all stuff:

Faded Denim Natural Insectualized Fissured Pine Proliferated with Organic Spores.

This must be a GOLD MINE, Oh! I am gona get me a new truck!!!

This is so awsome I can't even find any Smilies to cover it.

Of course it comes in random widths and lengths.

Now for the few of you who hasn't figured out what Faded Denim Natural Insectualized Fissured Pine Proliferated with Organic Spores is: (Don't tell the customers, ya here) it is a
dead tree blown down by wind, cut it up any way, stained thru and thru, had to stop and sharpen the blade because kept hitting those giant grub worms, you know the 2 inch long white ones with teeth the size of the pins on a moisture meter, the worms leave gaping holes all thru the wood, after that, the warm weather here in Arkansas and lack of air flow has all the lumber in the stack molded with white and green mold, pretty thick stuff it glued the stickers to the boards. I guess I could include "Textured" to the description.

I am guessing on Ebay I could get $150.00 per board easy.

SawBilly
Title: Re: Storing pine cants.
Post by: Ron Wenrich on October 05, 2002, 10:18:42 AM
You're $150/bd ft might be high, but I wouldn't put it past someone on Ebay to pay a high price for that stuff.  Of course you could tack on shipping and handling to come close to that.   :D

I've seen boards that my wholesale buyers don't want sell for a mighty high price.  Of course, I've seen the same in at Lowe's.