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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: Jacar on October 07, 2002, 10:52:57 AM

Title: Bois d'arc
Post by: Jacar on October 07, 2002, 10:52:57 AM
Hey guys,

I am new to this forum.  I have been lurking for a couple of months.  Mainly been hanging out at the Woodweb.  I have learned a lot form both sites.  

We have a manual Timberking( new in Jan '02)and we have been very happy w/ it.  I mainly mill for myself, but sell when I have extra.  I built a solar kiln and have run one load of red oak and it worked great.  I have some mesquite in it now.  

My question for you scholars of sawmilling is:  I have an opportunity to harvest some bois d'arc from NE Texas.  Alot  more than I can use.  
#1 Any tips on sawing it?
#2 Is there a market for the lumber I saw?

Thanks Jack  :)
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: Bibbyman on October 07, 2002, 11:48:27 AM
Welcome Jack,  glad you stopped lurking and decided to join in.  

Lots of niche markets for Hedge, Osage Orange, or about a hundred other things it's called.  We've not marketed very much so I'll leave it to others to guide you on that one.

P.S. I really like that area around NE Texas.
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2002, 12:53:38 PM
Welcome to the ForestryForum, Jacar.  You're going to like this. :)
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: smwwoody on October 07, 2002, 02:22:21 PM
Hi

there is always a few adds for Osage Orange fence posts on www.woodplanet.com
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: woodbeard on October 07, 2002, 03:33:52 PM
Osage is gorgeous wood, but is hard as nails. sometimes a good portion of a trunk has been dead and seasoning for years. can be very tough on blades.
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: Frank_Pender on October 07, 2002, 09:52:27 PM
It makes for a wonderful bow.  One of my students made one for me when he was 13.  It is a Native American long bow.  One the back of the bow, he laminated Western Wild Cherry bark.  It shoot like a dream.  the pound pull is about 48.
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: Paul_H on October 07, 2002, 11:00:33 PM
Frank,
Did the native Indians out here use Yew wood for bows,or was it used for arrows?
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: JoeyLowe on October 08, 2002, 05:05:04 AM
Hey Jacar:

Welcome to the Forum.  What part of NE Texas are you located in?  Drop me a note about the osage orange.  I know of at least one person in Texarkana who is looking  for some 6 x 6 beams.  Again, welcome and as Tom said so eloquently, "You are really going to like this!"

Joey
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: Jacar on October 08, 2002, 05:45:52 AM
Joey,

Actually, I live in Tomball, which is NW of Houston.  A friend owns the place east of Dallas.  He is clearing some land to build a house.

Jack
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: ARKANSAWYER on October 08, 2002, 06:18:21 AM
     Another Texan ;D
  Well Howdy and welcome!
  Cut a board and turn the cant, cut a board and turn the cant.  It is hard to saw and you will need lots of water to keep the blade cool.  It is very pretty when first opened up.  If you get some large logs some nice thick wide turning stock goes good.  Post a ad and watch them come out of the wood work wanting it.
ARKANSAWYER
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: Frank_Pender on October 08, 2002, 06:30:32 AM
I have heard that the natives used the Yew for both bows and the arrows, Paul.  I will see about it for sure.  I am drying some Oregon Oak at this time for the young man that made it bow.  I will most likely see him this weekend  and the lumber will be complete this Friday.  
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: Texas Ranger on October 08, 2002, 01:35:28 PM
Welcome, Jakar, enough Texans and we can take over this group! 8)

Osage Orange is as hard as the others tell you, cut it as green as possible.  The Houston woodworks net would be a good source to move it.

I'm in Livingston, and occaisionally get a little of the wood.

By the way, just had a 2 x 6 x12' purple heart board delivered.  Have a friend that works the oil patch in South America, and when they clear  a pipe line he has the local mills cut the logs to cants, boxes them up in a shipping crate, fumigates, and brings them home.

Waiting on some ebony.
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: JoeyLowe on October 09, 2002, 07:15:28 AM
 ;)  Now Don, that just ain't right.  Purple heart...ebony...South America...I need some friends like that! 8)
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: Sawduster on October 09, 2002, 07:27:03 PM
Another Texan here, around Austin.  Looks like we got it pretty well covered except the Farrr west area, and they ain't got no trees out there.  Lucky is the fella living out there in Livingston.  Got a place on the Lake?  I got a buddy out there who gave up a heck of a good living in Houston to live there near the lake.

I'm not a Sawyer, but a long time amatuer woodworker, and I lurk here ocassionally to see what's goin on.  I travel a lot for work and have to get my woodworking fix via the net.  

That Bois D'arc is some hard stuff, but it machines pretty good and turns right nice.  Problem is that it is sometimes hard to come by.  Not a normal commercial wood, and the ranchers use a lot of it for fence posts.  Cut it green, stick it in the ground and tack some bob war on it and that war is there forever.  As to a market, I could handle some, though not in great quantities.  No place to store a whole bunch, but I'd bet a couple other woodworker buddies I know would be interested also.

Jerry
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: Jacar on October 09, 2002, 09:21:49 PM
I will let you know when I cut it.  It will probably be several months before I get a chance to get up there.

Jack
Title: Re: Bois d'arc
Post by: LeeB on October 11, 2002, 11:53:37 PM
Sawduster, Where are you in the Austin area. I am in Liberty Hill. LeeB :)