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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: jpgreen on January 05, 2006, 09:19:29 AM

Title: Well- I bought it!
Post by: jpgreen on January 05, 2006, 09:19:29 AM
You guys aren't gonna believe this. 

Update on the prior thread... guy calls me after weeks and tells me he had lost my number, (after I left a message that I wanted to take a look at his Woodmizer), that he needs money, and wants to sell his 1993 LT40 HD 25hp Onan 6000 hours. This is after I thought his was unavailable and made up my mind to buy a Peterson, and even sent in a deposit.

So now (day before yesterday) I travel down south, check into a motel and meet the guy the next morning with cash. The original asking price was $12000... including 3 farm jacks, peavy's screw jacks, pile of blades (don't know how many are good), parts, big prybars, etc. Well over the phone this second time around, he says he'll come down to $8500.  Said it had a new Onan engine replacement 6 months ago.

Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Captain on January 05, 2006, 09:33:22 AM
Congrats, JP.  Give us a call to tell us how to deal with that deposit.....we'll wait to hear from you.


Captain
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: crtreedude on January 05, 2006, 09:42:45 AM
JP,

You should be ashamed of your self   >:( - as a punishment - box it up and ship it down here...  ;D

Congrats!  8)  8)
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Ernie_Edwards on January 05, 2006, 09:48:45 AM
JP,

I know you, you are the guy I always seem to be just one step behind.

All kidding aside, good for you and the best of luck with your new mill.
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Kirk_Allen on January 05, 2006, 10:11:30 AM
JP I like your stile!  I got a feeling we have attended the same negotiating school.  ;D

Only one concern if the thought of drugs or alcohol was in play.  IS THE MILL STOLEN?

WM will know as soon as you give them the serial number.  For your sake I hope its not. 
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: VA-Sawyer on January 05, 2006, 10:36:15 AM
Stop!  Thief! 
:o

Well, let me see how this works out..... $3500 for the mill.... $2000 for new engine.... $3000 would replace or upgrade almost anything I could think of.  $8500 max investment to have a '95 mill in excellent shape.   I would consider leaving my deposit down on the swinger.  With your good luck, you will need both mills to keep up with all the business that is bound to head your way.  :D

VA-Sawyer




Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: jerry-m on January 05, 2006, 10:41:34 AM
Well he said it had the manual with the ser.#  also the W/M card with the guys name and ser#...

So surely its not stolen...

Heres and Idea, Why not have a list here some place where we could list stolen sawmills and related large item equipment  ??? ??? ???  

Might keep someone from makeing the mistake of buying stolen equipment and more important the victim getting their property back...

Whatever,  Have a nice Day,   Jerry












Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: jpgreen on January 05, 2006, 10:49:47 AM
Stop it guys... you're me making feel bad and guilty...  :-[

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OK- now I'm over it..  ;D
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Murf on January 05, 2006, 11:40:47 AM
Quote from: jpgreen on January 05, 2006, 09:19:29 AM
Drugs are not a good thing.  A mind SAWMILL is a terrible thing to waste..  ;D

:D
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Bibbyman on January 05, 2006, 04:55:38 PM
Congraulations!  Welcome to the Wood-Mizer group!

Oh yea,  one other thing you may want to check out...  At $3500 and meeting him at some location other than his home...  Did you check with Wood-Mizer to see if it shows up on their list of stolen mills?

I know a guy that bought a used Wood-Mizer from a guy that was the owner.  When he went to get it registered with Wood-Mizer,  he found out it was listed as stolen.  The owner had said it was stolen and collected the insurance money and then sold it. 

I don't know what happened to the guy that committed the fraud but the buyer escaped prosecution for accepting stolen goods but he lost the mill and his money. :'(
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Jeff on January 05, 2006, 05:04:34 PM
It is absolutely sumpthing you should look into. I was surpriced after talking with the V.P. of Norwood what a problem stolen mills is. Thats why they wont see parts or even a manual to just anyone until they have tracked the path of ownership and determined that the mill was actually with a rightful owner.

Wood-Mizer will certainly help. get the serial number and check it out, at the same time., you can get your customer ID. number.
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: ely on January 05, 2006, 05:05:47 PM
yeah that mill was stolen, did you guys read that story.jpgreen is THE thief. :D
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Troy on January 05, 2006, 08:47:48 PM
Way to go Pat!  Keep us posted on the progress.
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: jpgreen on January 06, 2006, 02:40:25 AM
I'm in the system at Wood-Mizer now.  No stolen Mill, just a lucky one cause it's gonna have a nice new home... :)

Just bought a ton of parts and a box of blades down in Sheridan, and a Lap-siding attachment.  Gonna order a new engine when I decide what's the best one.
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Rockn H on January 06, 2006, 02:55:03 AM
I thought Onans were suppose to rattle.  Now I've got to go and start tightning all those loose bolts on mine. :D
Hey, were are the pics.  We want before and after. :)
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Bibbyman on January 06, 2006, 03:19:42 AM
Hey guys,  don't you know it's after 2:00 in the morning?  We've got sawing to do in a couple 3-4 hours. ::)

I'd replace it with one of the new Kolher 28 fuel injected engines.  WM should have a swap out kit.

Wood-Mizer conversion kits (http://www.woodmizer.com/en/support/engines.aspx)
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Husband on January 06, 2006, 03:50:01 AM
Well done on your purchase...or should I say "steal" :-X
Knowing the prices of such mills you got onto a goody there.
I agree with Bibbyman and get the 28hp on that thing. (maybe he can even show you how to get the thing humming.) 8)
All the best with your mill.
Chris
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: WeeksvilleWoodWorx on January 06, 2006, 10:05:05 AM
There is a 93 LT40HD with the Onan on the Exchange w/6000 hours for $14,500 :o Take off about 2k for the engine and 2k for the labor :o

What a thief ;D 8) :)
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: jpgreen on January 06, 2006, 10:24:12 AM
It brings my heart comfort, and a warm feeling inside knowing I saved a Wood-mizer..  :-[

Tear.













:D
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: WH_Conley on January 06, 2006, 02:15:08 PM
Try plug wires on the mill, could very well level out the running. Somewhere between changing wires and coil, which up and died, got my onan running slick, I was thinking the engine was about to give up to.
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: jpgreen on January 06, 2006, 02:37:19 PM
You could be right Conley, but for the price I paid for the mill, I wanted a new engine.  I'll use that Onan for a wood gasifier or something..  ;D

I just bought a Kawasaki Liquid cooled 27 HP twin OHC, 20 amp alt, has industrial air cleaner, etc. from Tulsa Engine Warehouse.  This one they had marked way down on sale, even below their website sale price.

I'm not gonna say how much, cause some of you guys may get fed up with me an say "Git a Rope"..  :D

Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Flurida_BlackCreek on January 07, 2006, 11:51:53 AM
you seem to get around good for a 103 year old guy.
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Jeff on January 07, 2006, 11:56:12 AM
yea, I was thinking we needed to do sumpthin about that...
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Flurida_BlackCreek on January 07, 2006, 11:58:07 AM
i figured so.
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: jpgreen on January 07, 2006, 12:17:49 PM
Age is based purely on ones frame of mind..  ;D






Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: crtreedude on January 07, 2006, 03:09:00 PM
jpgreen,

Given that you are so good at making deals you should really box that up and send it down here - surely you can get another one real quick.  ::)

Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Ironwood on January 07, 2006, 04:05:15 PM
I am not sure I would have said anything to anyone except some real close friends.  But regardless good for you. I missed a OPaulson 36" bandmill 5-6" beam on the blade with a diesel and Rockford for $1200 two years ago, it also had a gang rip blade attatchment with a 11 HP GX Honda. Made me sick, I had to drive through the night to get the Hospital, our 1 year old had RSV, and we are here in Pa. with no family to lean on so Mom needed me here. Again good for you. Reid
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Bibbyman on January 07, 2006, 07:58:54 PM
A guy that has been coming to get slabs told me the other day that he had a brand new 54" circle sawblade and teeth still in the crate.  He said he also had the mill - all setting in his barn.

He had went to look at a horse the man had for sale and bought it.  The guy asked him if he needed a sawmill.  He said no.  The guy said I'll take $50 for the whole thing so he bought it.  Said the man was getting a divorce and just wanted to get rid of everything. 
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: farmerdoug on January 07, 2006, 08:43:28 PM
Bibbyman, are you trying to get JP to think he over paid for the Woodmizer?

Farmerdoug
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: jpgreen on January 07, 2006, 11:29:30 PM
Sorry about expanding on and sharing my excitement, which is purley what it was..  :D

Cheers........ JP
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Furby on January 07, 2006, 11:33:10 PM
Fel free to brag, ya made a great deal! 8)
Tried to do the same thing a few months ago, but the guy wasn't a crack head and it didn't work out. ::)
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Jeff on January 07, 2006, 11:33:51 PM
Were proud of ya really. Were just an bunch of old jelous farts. Keep right on a posting cause I get ta grin every time I see that user picture of yours. :)
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: Jeff on January 07, 2006, 11:35:21 PM
I'm going to fix it though, (the picture) cause it needs a transparent background, but I'm going to have to charge you around 4,000 dollars. :D ;)
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: farmerdoug on January 08, 2006, 12:13:44 AM
JP,  we are really happy for you.  I for one am happy to see a useful item saved from the scrapyard.  I am sure it would have probably ended up there eventually if you had not bought it.  That is were alot to junkies sell things as a last resort for cash.

Farmerdoug
Title: Re: Well- I bought it!
Post by: crtreedude on January 08, 2006, 06:03:37 AM
JP

As Jeff said, we are just jealous is all.  Just part of being the group - you have to take the good with the bad.

For example, I am starting to be convinced that Jeff might just get his wish about snow in Costa Rica! Man it is cold! (probably 60 degrees F this morning - we we don't have a heater) I swear I have turned into a Weather Wimp.