Here's "Ellwood"... the before pictures of my Wood-Mizer LT40hd as I start work on him today.
I bought him used, and I'll be rewiring, doing an engine swap, and adding many new parts.
I'm going to be taking pics of my progress, and probably will need help and be asking lots of questions to the LT40 experts here on the FF.. :) 8) :) :)
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This is lumber I milled with my Husky 3120 and my Woodbug sawmill. It's smooth to the touch, and dead on dimention and square. This is my rougher chain also. I can get even a smoother cut.
It's all setting on my new 26' x 28' woodshop slab that's ready and waiting for construction. Ellwood's here just in time to help finish the lumber I need to git-her-done... smiley_beertoast
Note from Admin
Sorry JP but again,the pics have to be uploaded to the Forum and must be resized below 20K. I hope you can get them into your gallery and posted again.
Good work jpgreen have fun 8)
Wow, that's a heck of a step up from a Chainsawmill to a Lt40Hd.
What is wrong with the current engine?
Jon
I would like to see a video of it cutting with that Kawasaki on it.
Thanks DoubleD... I love Olio Olive, and want to go to Italy some day.. 8)
Jon-
The engine runs but not to well. Fired it up and runs like a rattle trap. Definitely firing hotter one cyl more than the other. It may just need a tuneup, but for what I paid for the mill I wanted a new engine. I was going to buy a new Peterson, and decided to bring this one up running like a new machine. Then I'll get a Peterson (someday).. ;D
Gary-
Don't have a video camera. Maybe someone I know does, and will shoot it running. I'll let you know how she does.
RUHT ROH-
I see the admin note above. I'm having trouble getting my pics down to such a low (22k) size.
JP,
do you have xat? I see you have a few pics in your gallery already.Keep trying and if it doesn't work,send me an IM and we'll see what we can figure out between us.I'm learning as I go too. ;)
JP
I use my digital camera to create an AVI (which are large files) I then open up Windows Movie Maker and bring it into that application, you can do a customize size and make it a wmv. It will make a 1 minute 20 second video into a 1mb wmv. The more you cocmpress the less the quality. Microsoft Media Player will then play that wmv file.
OK- Pics are back.
Gary- I'll see if I can figger that one out... thanks.
Quote from: Paul_H on February 06, 2006, 04:14:14 PM
JP,
do you have xat? I see you have a few pics in your gallery already.Keep trying and if it doesn't work,send me an IM and we'll see what we can figure out between us.I'm learning as I go too. ;)
Thanks Paul-
All I have is Photoshop, and it took me awhile to see what the max I could upload was with my program cause the numbers don't match, but I finally got it.
JP - Can't wait to see some of the work in progress photos. I bet you will have that thing running like a champ! Wish I lived closer, that would be a fun project to help out on. Send some more pics of your property, looks like pretty country. Are you on top of a mountain? Good luck. Keep us posted!
I wish you lived back here too Troy-
We could have some fun sawin' some serious logs.. 8) :) 8)
We are bout' 3100 feet looking out across an awesome open canyon and mountain range. I have been truly blessed by the main man upstairs. I musta done sumthin' right after all the screwups.. ;D...... :D
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100 yards out my back door.. smiley_bounce smiley_bounce 8) :) :) 8) smiley_bounce smiley_bounce
Any time you and the family want to travel west- you gotta nice place to stay Troy.. :)
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Congrats.......I think ya got a lot of bang for the buck......You can use that bandmill to fillet those big ole fish ;)
JP - I'm putting a mark on my map of places to visit! What a great view. Thanks for the invite. I'm just the type of person who might call you up one day and say I'm on my way. If you ever get caught up on all of your projects and get time to make it over to the eastern side you know where to find me. Thanks for the pics.
A bouncing baby Kawasaki.. :)
Such a cute little buggar.. smiley_big-grin2
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That looks much better than the first one. Now get that thing hooked up!
Looks like you could power a dragster with that thing :D
I'm sure that will do the trick for ya, and should have power to spare too. Are you sure your buddy don't wanna swing one more of them sweet deals? ;D
Is your original engine set up with an auto clutch? What is the weight comparison between the old engine and the new one?
No auto clutch on the engine (and I'm not sure what that does).
Th Kawasaki is a little heavier than the Onan. It's about 122 lbs. I'm replacing the dual up/down chain with the new WoodMizer chain so it can easily handle the extra weight, and I had to do that to install the new debarker anyways.
I forgot the exact weight number on the Onan.
Spent all day scrubbing this mill by hand because my pressure washer pump died.. ::) Anyone know anything about those?
Cleaned up fairly decent, and I've got more to do, but I've decided not to paint it this year cause I've got to much to do. Anyone want to buy some new single stage (with hardener and reducer) premium paint computer matched to the new WM color?
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Lots of old orange came back out from under the grunge... 8)
Just curious...what advantage does a water cooled small engine have over an air cooled engine? I sorta like Kawasaki...beginning with a Mach 3 and the Kawasaki plant right up the road in Maryville, Missouri.
Larry...
Some people believe the engine runs cooler and lasts longer. I think it is superior in hotter climates, which I'll prolly be doing a lot of work in.
Drawbacks can be, you have a cooing system to maintian. Your engine could overheat if it fails. Radiator has to be blown out and kept free of sawdust.
Air cooling fins can become clogged on air cooled engines though also.
I like Kawasaki a lot. Mabey cause it contains the word Saki.. :o..................... :D
The reason I was asking was so you could calculate how much more the kawasaki weighs as that additional weight will be felt when "lifting" the engine and that radiator and its coolant everytime you have to engage the clutch since you dont have an auto clutch.
I don't know if it will be that much different Jeff, but we'll see.
So what's the fix, the auto clutch?
The liquid cooled will be smoother, QUIETER, and with reasonable maintenance, last a lot longer.
Jeff...
It looks like it's about 25lbs heavier than a Kohler 25hp, not counting the antifreez.
You might want to ask some of the sawyers that have been engaging that manual clutch for years on the opinion on the auto clutch. I brought it up because of some comments by Tom and Customsawyer this weekend during some of our conversations. I have to think that all that extra weight and where or where it may not be located is going to have repercussions on you as the operator, and possibly the design and function of the machine.
:D I washed my sawmill one time. :)
THAT's the last time I wash mine by hand!.. >:( >:( >:(
Jeff,
You got me wonderin' so I did some closer checking.
The Kawasaki is only 15lbs more than the new Kohler 28, plus the weight of coolant (oil's the same).
The new LT40 HD with the Kohler 28 has no auto clutch option per the Wood-Mizer website.
I would tend to believe as easy as the Onan 24 engages, 20 or so more pounds is not going to make much of a difference, but I can always add auto clutch on later can't I?
About what did it cost you?... smiley_beertoast
I dont have an auto clutch, Ive just talked with people that have spent a good deal of time without one. It will certainly be interesting how yours works out. I do know the "clutch" works on using a lever to lift the engine to tighten the belt and at the same time release the brake. As you increase the weight of the engine, you increase the amount of force it takes to pull down on that lever. Depending on where that added weight is located on the engine might also add to that additional force required. For example if you have to move the engine from its standard mounting location to a new one.
Hey JP, get that thing going so we can get some realtime feedback. I am considering the same engine for my LT. Maybe if the engagement is a problem you can add a gas cylinder to the lever or the mounting plate to assist you. They are using those things in all kinds of applications of late. LW
I should be taking the Onan off to day LW, and I've got to grind off the old alternator. I'll post a pic so you ca see what I mean... :D
Prolly at least set the Kawa on her an start lining things up to see where I'm at. I don't think the weight will be a problem, but I was wrong once (1) before.. :D
I want to see a video of it cutting, and audio to hear that saki running.
I'm wondering how to use my Digital camera for a movie?..... ???
I think I lost the instructions. It does have that mode like a motion camera... :-*
Work progress for today...
Got the Onan off, and had to grind some of the gobs of weld off the alternator mounting bracket just to get the DanG unit off.. :D
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That is actually an Allen wrench gobbed in the right hand corner of the mount.. ::)........... :D
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Here she sits with muffler and air cleaner, and a new Delco alt. Also I have the new debarker just sitting in place so I can decifer what's gonna work where.
I was thinking of mounting the alt on the oposit side because of the weight like on the new Lt40's, but it would be in the way of the oil filter, the debarker, to close to the muffler. If I turned it 360 then I wouldn't be able to get the belt cover on. It could be placed in there with a lot of work, but I started placing it back on the other side like the original.
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It fits there nicely. There's plenty of room for this engine.. :) 8) :)
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Now the weight problem.
I understand that has been a real problem for WM owners, and I compared the weight of engaging the clutch with the Onan on, and then this heavier engine, with the heavier alt. It's definitely harder to engage, so I came up with a fix.
I call it the "JP Clutch".. :D
Looks like ya got it figured out. If that hood spring works during operation, I have a feeling you could sell those springs at a healthy profit. Heck, ya might even make the front of the woodmizer news for that mod :D
Yes indeed Ken.. The onlyest problem is it's to simple. They would never go for that.. :D
Looks like a winner....I love when someone tells me something cantbe done......
It is not a matter of if it can.....just how simple IT CAN BE DONE 8) 8) 8)
I hope y'all weren't thinking I was dissing anything here. I have been worried about how I might be able to run my mill this spring and the recent personal conversations I have had been privy to about the issue had me wondering if it had been considered. Actually its similar to what I did this last past fall with a bungee strap as an assist. The clutch mechanics is so simple that there has to be a multitude of things we can do to assist it to avoid any repetitive stress. Believe me, I don't think I can handle any.
That raises a question in my ever active central processing unit. Does this spring lower the overall tension on the belt? Or does it increase the pressure? Or...does it change it at all? Good work JP.
P.S. I like the setup on the pallet behind the tractor. LW
JP you're the new west coast R&D center. The real test will be if the band does not slip entering cuts. That can pith you off quickly -- tension can be adjusted quickly enough from the looks of it. Just use a spring from a compact import from the 90's.
Nope.
No chance of the belts slipping, or the tension changing on the blade. The reason is the linkage is pushing to the top of it's cam action (for loss of a better term), and it locks in the upper position just like it does without the spring. That doesn't change.. :)
But I think this is the easy fix, and unless you're in total pain and cannot push with your arm and shoulder at all, it will work great.
Even with the engine off for cryin' out loud... ::) it's hard to push and engage that arm, and lift the engine mount. The design was functional, but sucks if you have to do it constantly.
I say my "JP Clutch", lightens the effort by at least 60-75%... smiley_beertoast smiley_beertoast
"and unless you're in total pain and cannot push with your arm and shoulder at all"
That'd be me bob. :D
And how much is the Auto Clutch?
Pay Pal is to your left! ;D :D
Not an option for my mill I'm told. Besides, keeping the forum funded and up is priority for me at this point. Mill is covered with a tarp and snow so it can wait for me. :)
PleaseSendCash@FeedMyWooodmizer.com... :D
I have always said nothing is impossible with enough time and money. That motor sure is looking good on that mill, cant wait to hear how well it cuts for you.
JP I just got my new Surplus Center catalog today. they have a 27 HP Kawasaki for $1499.99 (item #28-1560)
That's not to bad Dana. Does it inlcude shipping?
Tulsa Engine Warehouse has them a little cheaper I think including shipping. AT least they did.
Now all ya need is a spring.. :D
It was 15 degreess here last night!.. :o Too cold for a Californiay boy. Still DanG near 32.
I've been slow to get back out on the mill.. ;D Send me sum more messages to keep me busy.. :D
Whatcha pop that good lookin' buck with? Hard to tell from the pics. You skin you're own yotes too? Man we got em' thick back here and no one to go after them. I got me a .223 bolt for just that, but haven't had time
to get out there. Right out my back door. That's pretty bad.. :D
Shipping not included. They list weight as 160 Lbs. so it isn't UPS shipable either. I use a 6.5 X55 Swedish for deer hunting.
Quote from: jpgreen on February 14, 2006, 07:58:13 PM
I call it the "JP Clutch".. :D
I simply drilled a hole for, and installed an eye bolt...
...and hung a 1978 hood spring under the fuel shelf, and to the engine shelf...
Pretty clever "mod". Let's see how it works and then post it over on the "Usefull sawmill mods" post.
The only other thing I can think of that may cause a problem is if it strarts to vibrate.
We had a 96 Super with the 35hp Wisconsin engine. It was cast iron and very heavy. It'd wear you out pulling the handle all day. Mary had to lock her elbow and sholder and then kind of do a body drop to pull the lever. On the new Super that replaced it, we got the auto clutch.
PS. did you check and replace the rubber bushings that the motor mount plate pivits on?
I looked at those bushings yesterday Bibby. They didn't seem to have any space or play in there, but might not be able to tell from looking.
How can you tell what kinda shape those are in?
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How can you tell what kinda shape those are in?
If you can't tell there's a problem, then you're probably OK for now. On the 96 Super, they were all squished out and the plate that the motor sets on had dropped down. I couldn't get and keep the right belt tension. I replaced them with aluminum.
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Here's what they looked like..
Here's a post on how I changed them out...
Changing out motor mount bushings (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=1960.msg24320#msg24320)
You might want to make a mental note to change the spring and eyebolts when you have sawed between 3 and 5 hundred thousand. The constant engaging of the belt will wear them where they meet. ;D
Thanks for the tip Bibby.
THat's a good point MB cause I intend to do that with my mill in the first couple of months.. :D.
Slabs it's a 27 hp.
When you say room for a pillow block do you mean like doing an indirect drive from engine to the block, then to the mill?
I think this engine is every bit as heavy duty as any of the others in it's class. Maybe not what the old Wisconsin is, but I think for the money it's a step above say a Kohler air cooled for my application.
Obviously, I'm flyin' by the seat of my pants here as I gather no one else has put one of these on a Wood-mizer, but I think it's a pretty good risk. I hope. Oh pretty please. I'll be good from now on.. :D
Don't worry, Dallas is still in the same place and I can meet you there anytime. Please make sure the engine is bolted down well before you start this way.
Better keep that .22 oiled up and that old dog alive then Dick.. ;D
OK, I'm back to getting my WoodMizer online.. 8)
I had to revisit this thread to get up the gumption to git her done... ;D
How do align these things again?.. ;D
Well it is about time. I'm getting older and wasn't sure if I was going to see you make that mill run in my lifetime. 8)
Got busy stripping down the LT40 today.. 8)
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Removed the engine mount plate and pulled the rubber bushings and ordered some new ones.
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Took a cutting torch to the gobs of welds to they used to fix the alternator bracket and other junk. Rusty goobers of weld. I just love cutting that garbage. There are gobs of wire connectors added here and there also, and all of it's going in the trash.
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Pulled the chains, and will be replacing those with the new ones to be ready for the new debarker. Checked the lift sprockets and 1 was about frozen, and the other 3 are rough turning. All those sprocket bearings need replaced.
Whilst I was in there I found a nasty little stress crack in the box tubing. :o That's gotta be taken care of. I think for now, I'm going to drill a tiny hole on the end of each crack, then weld it. If that doesn't hold I'm going to weld in a plate to redistribute the stress.
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I don't think this guy ever used a tool.. ::) Here's the guide adjustment bolts all buggered up. I've got all new bolts for that.
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More rats nest... :o
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He needs a lot of work, but it's easy compared to what I've been doing lately. At least I don't have to design stuff as I go while replacing and repairing.. :D
Cut the RED wire!!
I reckon with all that peripheral stuff going on, it is going to be a while yet before we see that two banger dance and sing.
Now, if you get to thinking that it might get all froze up before it gets to internally combust, go ahead (con mi permiso) ship it on down here on the next train out, and I'll keep that from happening for you. No charge.
hummmm
a Wood a sacki
kawamizer......... nope just JP reinventing the Wheel ... again
keep up the good work
Quote from: tcsmpsi on June 03, 2006, 10:21:54 AM
Cut the RED wire!!
I reckon with all that peripheral stuff going on, it is going to be a while yet before we see that two banger dance and sing.
Now, if you get to thinking that it might get all froze up before it gets to internally combust, go ahead (con mi permiso) ship it on down here on the next train out, and I'll keep that from happening for you. No charge.
Why does everyone want my Kawa-Mizer?.. ;D
I thinks you and Dick Highpockets should meet up in Texas and come out to help me finish my mill.. 8)
Fabricated a new control box mount ala new Woodmizer style. The old one was to close to the rulers, and the wire harness is all cramped up, so I cut her out, and made this one similar to the new models.. :)
The engage lever is back aways now, but this may be OK. If not, I'll extend it like the new ones. It would make the lever easier to work too, but I already have my "JP" clutch in so there's really no need.
That bar is cut at a 45dgr angle, then rotated in 90 dgrs. if you didn't do that, the box would stick out in traffic.. :D Then it took some figuring to get the angle under the box right. I'm sure a mathematical genius, with a brain for geometry could easily figure it out, but it took me a little while.. ;D
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Next goes the bent up ruler bars and mount... 8)
Now, jp, you REALLY think you could afford our feed bill????
NO Problem.
I've got a 5 gallon bucket of grits... we eat good around here.. :D
Well, you might be eating good around there, but if you think a 5 gal bucket of grits is something substantial, you sure as blazes don't eat very much.
Shoot, man, two or three late nite snacks, and that pretty much eats up a bucket of grits around here.
Looky here, now. I wouldn't tell just any ol' body about this.
If you want to stretch them grits out and give them a bit more substance, what you do, take you a double naught dolop of them grits, put them on one of them broad, nice and juicy collard leaves, dribble you a little rendered hog fat over your grits, roll that up kinda like you would one of them burritos (I like them steamed or not)...and bud, I'm here to tell you, two or three of them can take you on through a day, now.
;D........... :D
And Dick eats his Corn Flakes like that.. ;D
More corn infection? :o That stuff get's around, now....
JP I am leaving Pennsylvanina today. Keep a lookout on the horizon, I may show up. If you could leave me a credit card slip about Denver, I'd appreciate it.
Dick,
By the time you guys get here, I will already be done, and have sawn 5,000,000 board feet.
Can you pick me up some pancake syrup?.. ;D
I just spent part of the day tearing down my blade guides. Had to heat them DanG near cherry read to get the bolts out.. :rolleyes:
Some of them stripped, but it was the threads on the bolts, so I re-tapped the holes. Put in new bearings and guide rollers.
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I installed new spray nozzles so they spray both under and over the blade. I'll prolly wire in a windshield washer pump to spray.
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Installed the new debarker. Installed a new tension gage.
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Some more parts came, so we'll see how far I get.. 8)
Jp, I installed a windshirld wiper pump on mine. It lasted about thirty minutes. I went to a Fv-3 fuel valve and let it gravity flow. works better for me. Also with the windshield wiper pump, when I shut it off, I still had water flowing through it. It was a walmart brand pump. Maybe one off a Kenworth would do better.
I have my pancake syrup sent in by a really nice guy and his wife. I can not devulge my source, but it is fine. If you made a visit I'd make an exception and let you have a little.
I haven't seen any corn infection since I was in Hattisburg, Mississippi many years ago. In Saudi Arabia several people made it. They called it sadeeki. 180 proof. In 1977 Johnny Walker Black was $65.00 fifth when you could find it.
I used to use Johnny Walker. Effective date drug.. :D
The best pump would be a sure-flow, but they are pricey. May have to pop for one.. :o
The Kawasaki is working out nicely. Got everything laid out, and will be picking up belts, etc tomorrow.
This is a good candiate for an engine swap. Fits WAY better than the Onan. Better balance too.. :)
JP, Highpockets makes a good point about leakage. With the tank above th blade there is nothing to stop the flow. Most pumps do not have a shut off. I did use the same windshield washer pump for two years with good resulte. I think it was a NAPA universal. But you would need a solenoid valve in conjunction. When are we going to hear that Kawi purr? Joe
Yeah Joe. I need to find a seloniod valve. I found a pump in Graingers for $25.
I should have that Kawa meowing by mid week if I've got everthing I need here.
Going to Redding for more parts tomorrow.. 8)
Jp this solenoid valve I am using is a fuel switching valve. It is about $35.00 It of course has three openings. One inlet and two outlets. If you have the tank above the blade then that is all you need. What I did was use the second outlet as a level gauge and system drain. If there is no power on the solenoid, one outlet is common with the inlet. I attached a piece of clear hose to this one. I tied this hose above and along side the tank. With no power I can see the fluid level in the tank. When I put the power on, the other outlet is common and lets water run to the blade. Another good thing is that the level monitoring tube can be lowered to drain the system. It's simple but I'm simple.
THing is Dick I'm setting this up like the Woodmizer lube-mizer and I beleve these jets require pressure, cause they are real fine, small holes.
The gravity drip would not be enough, so I need to control a pump, with an on-off-monmentary on switch so I could choose to just give her a squirt when I needed, or full on.
Well a mans got to do what a mans got to do. Go for it big boy.
So, tell me, jp...how's the saki two-banger running??
I'm here looking out at the loading dock now, and there still hasn't been any delivery. I can only surmise that you must have gotten the little darlin' ginnin'.
Hmmmm??
Had things get in the way like gripperdog orders, and RAIN, and on and on. I've got to turn a reducer bushing for the rear of the old Woodmizer/Onan sheave to fit the Kawa.
Probaly start back up tomorrow, if it doesn't thunder and rain like it has been. Nice and cool though.. :)
When it's all done, I'll have the exact parts numbers and info for anyone who wants to do this swap. It's going to be the cats meow.. 8) Kawa-Mizer!!!!!!
KAWA-BUNGA!!!!! smiley_clapping
I thought that was just part of the word, kowabungabuffalobob. ??? :D
Oh yah, sure, jp....keep 'em coming. It'll be alright. When you figure there's just no other way around it, and you need that two-banger (my only extended experience with a kawasaki, was a few tens of thousands of miles on a 3-banger two stroke) broken in, we'll be right here.
I already got it figured out. I figure it'll run a large tub real good, so I do all the laundry for a week in one load.
8)
JP how long do you think it will be until sawing time? It looks like an interesting project. We got home so I may have to cut a few boards myself. Did put on 3 gallons of Mahaw wine yesterday.
Glad to hear you're back. Sounds like you had fun. Zeus missed you.. ;D
Weel I have a whole wack of KawaMizer pics to put up on the latest progress,
but I guess Jeff's refurbing the photo gallery.
What a great engine for a swap. It fits great. Plenty of room all around. Even the belt guard
bolts right inplace perfectly.
I've got the engine mounted, alternator, new control box mount fabricated and mounted,
debarker control mounted, new lift chain, new lift sprocket bearings, and jp clutch installed.
Changed oils in the gear box, and drive housing.
Now I pretty much have the switches and wiring, fuel, and change hydraulic oil/filter.
Then we'll see what happens when I fire her up, cut into a log and see what else could be wrong.. ;D ::)
Well, I am certainly glad to hear that you have the Kaw mounted. As much as I was looking forward to it showing up on the dock, I really don't need another gas mouth to feed and maintain. :D
As much as I might have lusted for the little Kaw, I've married myself up to this one lunger Kohler. Thusfar, it has been quite disciplined and loyal. ;D
And so, jp, is the new litter going to be adaptable?
Adaptable?
You mean to a band saw? Isn't that kinda like an interracial thing?.. :D
Don't be playing silly buggers with me. You know very well that's what I mean. ;D
Though, to do so may be interracial, to not do so would be discriminatory.
I am looking forward to seeing what you have come up with.
I'm looking for an 'easier' way for my wife to cinch up logs. She does pretty well with cants, if there's not too much stress in them making them want to twist a bit. ;)
QuoteAnd so, jp, is the new litter going to be adaptable?
What ?? ???
Are they cute? :)
Or is the question that the new litter is 'adoptable'?
Their adorable.
I mean how could they not be?... when you consider who's their daddy.. :D ;D
Quote from: tcsmpsi on August 15, 2006, 09:57:53 AM
Don't be playing silly buggers with me. You know very well that's what I mean. ;D
Though, to do so may be interracial, to not do so would be discriminatory.
I am looking forward to seeing what you have come up with.
I'm looking for an 'easier' way for my wife to cinch up logs. She does pretty well with cants, if there's not too much stress in them making them want to twist a bit. ;)
Michael,
You know- I've got some sets of steel dogs that may work well for your mill. We should look into that.
On another note...
-edit- **I'm just kiddin'** someone may take this the wrong way.. :)
Looking forward to those pictures JP, and the first cut. 8) LW
I don't know what I'm going to do. She's wanting to actually saw instead of just running dogs and handling wood. Go figure. ;D
But sure, let's take a look at what you have.
And, on the "tcsmpsi" thing, well...the FBI likes to be able to keep up with me easily and that's what they've always known me as on the internet. :D
michael
**it wouldn't have been this someone, jp** ;)
jp,
The bunks on the mill would be pretty easy to adapt to. They are simply 1/2" steel on edge.
More progress on my Kawa-Mizer swap.. 8) 8) 8)
Actually, the engine swap is now done cept for the throttle cable, and being I'm a remote hillbilly I've got to make one. Here are some pics so far on some of the steps to give an idea of what's involved.
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First off- the Onan engine shaft had stepped down as it came out of the case, so I needed to make a spacer bushing to fill the gap in the rear of the pulley sheave for the Kawa shaft. The Kawa main drive shaft is actually bigger in diameter than the Onan or Kohler for that matter, but it's milled down right as it comes out of the case.
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This bushing is a perfect press fit into the back of the sheave, then a snug "slide-on" to the Kawa shaft.
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Pic above shows how I got my basic bolt pattern to drill for the Kawa base.
I scribed the engine base outline, then placed some manila file folder paper under the engine to get my hole pattern. Placed the pattern on the Mizer, and re-measured, then drilled. Then I took a cutting torch, and cut some slots so the engine could slide into the bracket.
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First I set the engine on the Mizer with sheave installed. Lined up the pulleys of the Mizer with the Kawa by clamping a straight edge to the Mizer drive pulleys and scribed the outline of the engine on the Mizer base.
I took advantage of some threaded holes on the side of the engine block and fabricated an angle bracket to help align the engine. The bracket also puts tension on the drive belt. The side bolts pull the engine exactly where I want it, then locks it in place. It's extra work, but I think it's well worth it.
Then I made the pattern as above, set it back on the base lined up with the scribed outlines and marked the holes to drill. After I had the holes drilled I slotted them with a torch.
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Fabricated this alternator bracket above. Works great and is rock solid. It's not going to stress crack and break like the 95 year Mizer design.. ::)
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The belt guard fits, and I thought I was home free with that, till I found it hit the muffler when you disengaged the engine, so I have to cut bout an 1" off the bottom of the guard and re-weld it.. ;D
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Here's a pic of the control for the debarker. Didn't know where else to put it.
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Don't have current pics but...
Now it's all rewired, plumbed for fuel, and runs great. The Kawa is pretty darn quiet with a low throaty motorcycle engine sound. I like that! ..;D
Delco Alt is charging nicely. The debarked and hydraulics are working well. Same with the feed/lift systems far as I can tell at this point.
I rigged up a lube system that should work, but may need more fine tuning. redid the scales, and the mount for those. Found my drive housing is shot, so I need to order a new one from Woodmizer. This one leaks, bearings are noisy, so I'm gonna try to run some STP in it for now.
I've got to lower the belt guard, make up a throttle cable, align the blade guides, and should be ready to throw a log up on her tomorrow.
More pics to come... 8)
Now where does that wire go?... ;D
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Replaced drum, ignition, blade guide, with all new switches. All connections soldered and sealed. 8)
Very impressive, JP.
Very impressive. I have been considering doing the same thing to my old manual LT40, using the same Kawasaki. The old briggs is getting rather tired (6000 hours)Your posts and pictures have already saved me from a couple of bad mistakes, and given me more ideas of how to go about the conversion. Thanks a bunch, please keep the picture and updates coming
Thanks Frank and pineywoods. I'm glad this thread is a help... 8)
Glad someone can use the info as it does take a bit of time to post this stuff... ;D
6000 hours on the Briggs... Whoa! That is not to shabby.
Great job Pat!
Keep the pics rolling
My first (LT40) milled board.. 8)
After some bugs yesterday, and the log clamp not clamping a small 5" to 6" log as it was slipping all over the place, I fixed it and mounted a steel GripperDog on the clamp today. Locked the log down with heaven's fury, and I got a 4x4 out of it.
The easiest 4x4 I've ever milled.
Now I've got to actually read the manual, and figure out how to align this beast. I cut pretty square, but it was an 1/8 of an inch thicker on one end. That also could be because of a few other reasons, but the machine is milling. No waves or dives, and that was an old blade.. :)
I'm a happy camper fo sho.. 8)
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Kawa-Miser-Gripper
OR
Kawa-Miser-Dog
Well it logs Great !
jp,
Send me the audio version of that one day, would you? ;)
I'm just going to go back over here and be glad for you now.
You OK Michael?
Whatcha doin' over there anyhow?.. :)
Hey, jp
If there is ever any OK left in the world, I'll be it. ;D
Running about 14 to a dozen, presently. Folks always leaving them things in the closet all season, knowing they had a problem or put 'em up damp and dirty. And then, gotta have 'em right away. ;)
I remember telling an old friend of mine bout puttin' up that iron from the cold properly, and I don't think he listened.
Then one day he says to me, "you were right".. ;D :D
Just one more little quickie, since I have my parts ordered now, then I gotta back in there too it.
Had a gentleman bring in a fine looking Weatherby double rifle case one day years ago.
He opened it up, and inside was something nearly indiscernable. There were, what had once been, two of Weatherby's finest examples. The foam inside the case had deteriorated into a crumbly grave for the rifles, and had melded itself completely to everything exposed. Scopes, lenses, mounts, rings, wood and steel. Acetone wouldn't even budge what it had become.
A looooong term project.
Those foam lined cases are ONLY for transport. Not for storage. I believe I may had even made mention of that to the fellow a few years prior to that.
I'll be looking for the audio version of the running of the water cooled two banger blade runner. ;D
My grandmother kept my Great Grandpappy's 1882 colt in a sock for inons, then she gave it to me. The *DanG sock left lines where it ate at the case hardening, and blue. Made me sick. Oh well, still a gem of a piece.
The band blade is louder than the Kawa.. :D