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General Forestry => Timber Framing/Log construction => Topic started by: sbishop on February 21, 2006, 01:15:25 PM

Title: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: sbishop on February 21, 2006, 01:15:25 PM
Hi, would 6X6 hemlock be big enough for sills in a vertical log cabin?

thanks

Sbishop
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 21, 2006, 02:21:51 PM
sbishop, where abouts in the province are you? I'm no timber framing expert, but if you can saw them 10x10 it might be even better. 6" seems kind of narrow.

cheers
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: sbishop on February 21, 2006, 02:29:14 PM
Swanpdonkey, I live in Fredericton but i'm building the log cabin in Miramichi area.

10X10 would be cool...but i'm buying them so...a little $$ or unless you know of a source?

oh by the way, i'm getting Pressure treated ones too!

I see you are from centreville, how are things up there?

Sbishop
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 21, 2006, 02:50:09 PM
HI,

Everything seems to be holding together up in this part of the world. Winter has been great, I only had the blower out twice this winter. Have to use 'creepers' on the soles of my boots to walk around in the woods and such, terrible icey and thick crust. Have'n fun chasing moose, I wish they'd take residence a little further south. Awefully hard on plantations and young trees. >:(

I'm wondering if Wilkinsin's or Sparks would have them  10 x 10's. I bet Sparks could saw up a bunch if they didn't have them already sawed. Does the pressure treating plant do hemlock? I know they are not as rot resistant as alot of people think, but if you have them up off the ground they'll out last most anyone. ;)

I see your email uses bartibog, that where the camp's going up? ;D I was to a camp with an old friend about 8 years ago. It was a brand new camp on an old camp site. They used all cedar, even for the door. It's on the Renous not far from the Red Bank turnoff, but there are so many roads along there to the river, I forget the exact one. You might even have known my old friend if you ever fished salmon. I haven't fished for 13 years now.
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: sbishop on February 22, 2006, 07:43:05 AM
Swampdonkey...i'm going to have to change my email address.....HAHA

Yes it's in bartibog, that's where i'm from..i've got 25acres along the bartibog river!

yes, the pressure treatment plant is where I can by hemlock and yes they do PT

now that you mentionned it ...I think bigger the better...i guess i'll have to get a price on 10X10 now!

Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: treeboy on February 22, 2006, 10:34:59 AM
Quote from: sbishop on February 22, 2006, 07:43:05 AM

Yes it's in bartibog, that's where i'm from..i've got 25acres along the bartibog river!

Thats a cool name for a river - do you know were it came from?
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 22, 2006, 11:02:46 AM
Here's an interesting true story about Tommy the moose and John Connel from bartibog, who was a guide outfitter. The origins of the Newfoundland moose. ;D

http://www.countycrier.com/id28.html
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: treeboy on February 22, 2006, 12:04:07 PM
Wow cool story - a tame moose? They kind of look like a horse I guess. Do the two of you end each sentance with a "by"?  :D :D :D

Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: sbishop on February 22, 2006, 12:12:14 PM
Gee you know everything now....John Connell is my Great-Grandfather.

I grew up in his homestead, but recently my father moved to Moncton and Department of Transportation bought his house and barn and tore it down because it's a non access highway on route 8...it's was a real shame to do it...if i wasn't leaving in Fredericton, I would have bought it from my dad!

that sleigh you see in the picture, was stored in the barn all these years in great shape until someone stole it a couple of days before my dad moved  >:(

Sbishop
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: sbishop on February 22, 2006, 12:13:07 PM
Treeboy....no "by" here...but a lot of "eh"

:D
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 22, 2006, 03:11:20 PM
ditto to the last post. ;)
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: UNCLEBUCK on February 23, 2006, 01:18:05 AM
I built a big fish house once with pressure treated lumber for the flooring and runners and the runners snapped off like twigs when I pulled it with my pickup . I did not realize that pressure treated lumber was so brittle and weak . I know this does not make sense in this thread but I was really shocked at the strength differance . Good luck building your cabin sbishop
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: Minnesota_boy on February 23, 2006, 08:36:55 AM
How long do you intend this cabin to last?  I'd suspect that an untreated sill of bur oak laying on the ground would likely be still holding up what  is left of the verticle logs long after you're gone.  Just make sure that all the bark is removed.
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 23, 2006, 12:47:37 PM
Biggest concentration of bur oak in these parts is around Grand Lake and are the last few remnants of bur oak in New Brunswick. We have a few other pockets up along the river valley around Pokiak and Woodstock but nothing to get excited about logging over. In all likelihood it would have to be trucked in from south of the border. ;D
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: Minnesota_boy on February 23, 2006, 03:40:38 PM
That would be different, wood going to Canada from the U.S. 8)
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 23, 2006, 04:14:38 PM
Maybe it'll give some of our woodlots over here time to heal. :D :D ;D
Title: Re: 6X6 Hemlock for sills?
Post by: wiam on February 23, 2006, 10:12:53 PM
In VT we see lots of Canadian trucks headed north with logs on them.  Interesting part is we see lumber coming back.

Will