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General Forestry => Forestry and Logging => Topic started by: logger on March 07, 2006, 07:42:36 PM

Title: Log tickets?
Post by: logger on March 07, 2006, 07:42:36 PM
I saw some logs today that had little green tickets on the ends of them.  I have never seen this before. I always use dixon lumber crayons or log paint to mark my logs.  I thought it was maybe for some kind of veneer.  Just wondering? :)
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: Skip on March 07, 2006, 07:48:26 PM
Bar Code for I.D
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: logger on March 07, 2006, 09:19:54 PM
Where could I get some at?   :)
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: Dale Hatfield on March 07, 2006, 09:29:39 PM
Not sure of where to get  at .
But most of them take a hammer type tool to load a tag in and smack the log.
I sell to a yard that has bar code paper tags they staple on with roofing  stapler.

Dale
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: beenthere on March 07, 2006, 09:36:25 PM
If they are the hammer tags, and Bailey's (sponsor to the left) does not have them, I dound them at
Forestry Suppliers (http://www.forestry-suppliers.com/product_pages/View_Catalog_Page.asp?mi=2176)

along with other types of log tags.
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: Onthesauk on March 07, 2006, 09:44:37 PM
I help pick up trash along the highway west of town twice a year, drafted by my wife for a civic group project.  The local mill uses these bar code tags on the bundles of finished lumber and they paper the ditches for the first mile or two out of town.  Most of the incoming logs are still painted rather then tagged.
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: logger on March 08, 2006, 08:12:31 PM
Thanks guys!  I think I am going to try them!  Thanks for the website, Beenthere!  :) 8)
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: Ron Wenrich on March 09, 2006, 05:30:59 AM
Bar codes are used for a variety of reasons.  You can keep track of how a much a particular log cost, and then follow it through the mfg process to see if your log prices fall in line.  You can also use it to keep tabs on log buyers, loggers, job sites,etc.

But, to use bar code tags effectively, you also need the reader and the software to plug in the information.  The hammer and tags are just a part of the process.

Why do you think you want a tag system? 
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: Tillaway on March 09, 2006, 09:18:48 PM
I was wondering the same thing myself, they are most commonly used here at a export or sort yard.  you scale the logs once and tie the log scale to the bar code so you can pick and choose through the deck to meet a customers requirements and merely scan the codes to come up with the volume on the truck.

A log load ticket is a good way to keep track of logs you sell, as well as log brands.
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: logger on March 09, 2006, 09:52:37 PM
Don't you think that a tag system will keep you more organized in the log deck?  I think it will help the mills pick out the logs they want from the deck. :)
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: Ron Wenrich on March 10, 2006, 05:45:03 AM
If its not tied to some sort of software where a buyer can come in and say I want logs of a certain species, grade, diameter or length, then all you have are logs with fancy tags with no meaning.

I've always found that log buyers will determine which logs meet their specs.  I can go and guess which ones he'll buy, but he determines which ones to go.

Do you have a log yard or are you selling off the landing?  If you have a log yard, you can easily stack them in an organized manner.  We sort our sawlogs by species and length.  For veneer, we sort by which buyer is coming in.  Some buyers pay more for some species than other buyers.  We sort for their specs and don't let them see the ones that they pay less for.

On the landing, there are a few sorts.  We have scragg logs, firewood logs, sawlogs, and veneer.  They'll be put on different loads, so we have full loads going to the yard.  Sometimes the veneer buyer comes out to the landing to grade, if there is enough volume.

Even some of our veneer buyers don't use tags.  They simply paint a number on the end of the log.  That number will correspond to the number on their grade sheet.  They know who they can trust.
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 10, 2006, 06:08:06 AM
Yes, there is a veneer buyer from Maine that comes and stamps the end with one of those barcode tickets and enters info into a datalogger. I never see any sawlog buyers use it here, usually just a good old crayon and a scale tallysheet. ;)
Title: Re: Log tickets?
Post by: logger on March 11, 2006, 12:09:00 AM
I am selling off the landing.  I guess I will just stick with the tree paint and dixon log crayons.  I was just wondering if tickets are better to use.  Thanks! :)