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Title: Steel shot
Post by: JD_Kid on January 02, 2003, 11:07:01 AM
Hi ya's
just asking .with the lead ban in some places ..does that cover all shotgun shooting IE trap ,skeet ..why i'm wondering is that i shoot cowboy action  8)and if all shotgun shells are steel only how do ya get on? even rabbit shooting on rocky ground with steel would be weard, or do have to stockpile lead and ya roll ya own ..
thanks
JD Kid
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: ADfields on January 03, 2003, 03:20:24 AM
Hear in Alaska lead is just baned for use over water and I use Bizmith (sp?) over water, cant stand steel.   Bizmith shot shoots just like lead and hits hard but runs about 3 times the money as led or steel, around $9 US for a box of 20.   I do reload but not shotshells as I feel I can buy better shells for less money than it takes to reload them.   To get a good crimp and seal on a shootshell takes some of the better equipment and runs a bit of money to buy.
Andy
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: JD_Kid on January 03, 2003, 03:25:33 AM
Hi ya
yea i think thats going to be the same here in time ( shooting over water )why i asked is most new catalogs(?) all seem to be selling steel or other types of shot and even 3 inch shells might make a few 2 3/4 shotguns worth stuff all
catch ya
JD Kid
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: Texas Ranger on January 03, 2003, 08:11:50 AM
The Rifleman has an article this month on a "new" shot that is better than steel and bizmuth, shoots better, and is cheaper.
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: J Beyer on January 03, 2003, 09:31:17 AM
Watch out for those pieces of flying shot! :o  Would be bad shooting wabbit on rocky ground.  My shooting club has been around since the 50's and have not had any problems with lead in the water.  We were also told when asked about mining the trap fields was to leave them alone as long as the water quality holds out.

Interesting on the new shot.  Please tell us more.  Basically it only pays to reload if you shoot a lot of trap or want a load that patterns real well in your gun.

JB
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: Tom on January 03, 2003, 11:07:58 AM
JB,
It's not a problem of lead in water, its a problem with water fowl eating the lead from the bottom of the ponds and creeks. Whether they scoop it up accidentally with their food or eat it as stones to put in their crop, it eventually ends up in their system and they suffer from lead poisoning.  It effects a high percentage of ducks in the flyway today and it is debilitating as well as fatal.

A Canadian Wildlife Service article on Lead Poisoning (http://www.cws-scf.ec.gc.ca/hww-fap/hww-fap.cfm?ID_species=86&lang=e)
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: J Beyer on January 04, 2003, 05:16:42 PM
In areas where you can hunt Snipe with lead shot loads are legal when hunting them outside of the duck season or if ducks do not nest there, or for some other reason over water!  This does not make any sense to me, but it is a fact in some areas in the southeast.  For those of you that don't know what a snipe is, it is a bird that flies really fast and kind of zig-zags in flight.
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: Tom on January 04, 2003, 06:21:07 PM
Yeah, you can't hit'em in the daylight and you have to capture them at night.  You get a bunch of guys to beat the bushes and you have someone hold a croaker sack open across a trail in the woods.  When the snipe gets scared of the beaters it will run like crazy down the trail, not looking where it is going and run right into the sack. If you are quick you can close the sack before he gets out.  They're good eating but it takes a lot of them to make a meal.  We use to snipe hunt a lot when I was in the Boy Scouts.
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: Jeff on January 04, 2003, 06:25:07 PM
Tom and I were Thiiissssss close to getting Tammy out snipe hunting in Florida in his young slash pine. ;D
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: ADfields on January 04, 2003, 11:58:34 PM
When I was about 10 or so Mom Dad and me took a trip to Louisiana to pick up some cowdogs (Catahoulas) and stayed with the dog folks on there ranch for 4 days.   The first night the southern kids took me out snipe hunting and gave me the totesack. ::)   When thay got me all set I took the sack and went back to the house. ;D   Long about 3 hours later them southern boys came in just knowing there hides would get taned becous thay lost me out in the field.   I was sitting on the porch with a nice glass of sweet tea and sead "Well hi boys!  Did you think I was a dumb city kid just becous I dont talk like you?" :D :D ;D   Then and there I got respct and we had a great time the rest of my stay even if I did sound funny to them! 8)
Andy
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: J Beyer on January 05, 2003, 04:23:21 PM
Like I said, Snipe are birds, not night-time critters.

JB
Title: Re: Steel shot
Post by: james on April 25, 2004, 08:51:29 PM
some friends went to visit down by the lake of the ozarks and some neighbor kids took there 9 year old girl out on a snipe hunt 15 min later she comes running into the house and yells i got one all excited like and pulles her cousins pet skunk out of the bag :o :o ;D ;D