No! not with the Wiggins again. But the Sawmill Shootout. It seems while reading a TFG article that in Japan they have a compitention to see who can shave the thinest shaving with a plane. I think it would prove who could cut the most accurate lumber if they could make a shaving say 6" wide and 8' long as thin as possible. I have made some as thin as a 1/16 but I think with a good adjustment and blade could do better. Swingers would have to put up or shut up about accurate lumber. ???
What do you guys and gals think about going thin for bragging rights? It would be a real test as to how good one could slice.
ARKANSAWYER
I was cutting frozen hemlock yesterday and took off a thin slice after an icey/dirt chunk ruined a blade. when I tossed it in with the scrap it shattered just like glass, and even made a tinkling sound
I think I saw this on the Beverly Hillbillies with Jed and Jethro and pocketknives :D
My deli slicer is the crosscut off the 16" skil, those are propped up in a window. Ive always wanted to figure out how to make a stable lampshade.
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There is probably no doubt that a band can cut pretty thin stock. I have, just for the fun of it, cut less that 1/4" stock for just the purpose that Don P. mentioned, lampshade stock. But the best thing I have available after cutting so thin is an 8' stroke sander to inhance the material after it is dried. I have yet to make a shade :'(
I cut quarter inch slices for a customer from PT 4x6 that he used to make laminated outdoor arched gazeebos. he said he planed them befor gluing them up.
Arky that is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard. I read this this morning and thought who the heck will do that? ??? ;)
I forgot my entry at work. Less then a 16th thick I believe, 6 inches wide and 10 feet long. Sawn on a 60 inch circle head rig. 8)
I'll bring it home tomorrow and photograph and prove my entry. :)
When I had my Corley circle saw, I had a slice one time that was so thin, my Dad folded it and mailed it to a friend in Maryland, to see if I had set the saw up correctly. It never broke at the fold. Can't remember what kind of wood???? Might have been Hackberry???? If you held it up to the sun, you had to shade your eyes. Sure wish I had a piece of that. Probably was 8-6X 6" wide. From a number 5 tie. This AIN'T no lie !!
Sounds like fun Arky 8) I know I have cut some really thin stuff and tossed them. Any uses besides lamp shades. What will you be cutting. Cedar, white oak, black oak, ash?
DanG it,
Had my entry all ready to send in. While I was looking for an envelop to put it in, it just disappeared. I don't know if I just couldn't see it or it evaporated ??? Had the same thing happen to my guppie when I was a kid-----was changing it's water and never saw it again :-[
Noble
:D :D :D :D :D :D
OK so- with the lampshade idea- these sound thin enough to curl around. Is that what you mean- make a conventionally shaped lampshade? Or were you talking about something with 4 whadayacallem quadrilateral- - pieces-- that fit flat into a frame? I've seen lampshades like that as well. They'd have to be some kinda thin to be translucent. lw
Jeff,
Dumb Ideal ??? Now I wonder what the edger guy thought when your entry came down the line. ::) ::) I have cut pine so thin that you can see though it. I often saw white oak thin to make chesse boxes. I will look to see if I got one around. I will get my calipers out today and make a measure or two and see how thin they are.
Noble,
Did you frisk the cat for that guppie? :-/
Remember if you use your trimmings in the outhouse to wipe with the grain. ;D
ARKANSAWYER
After reading Arkansawyer's post Monday, I went out and fired up the orange machine, rolled on a nice 30in cherry log, set the setworks at 1/16in and started sawing. Ten minutes later I had the most beatiful thin lumber I've ever seen. Anybody want to buy some. If you do I will e-mail it to you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yeah, Pigman! ya could e-mail me a couple of rolls of cottonwood, if ya don't mind. ;D :D :D :D
This won't win the thinest contest but it's a thin slice of Cedar 6" wide and 12' long that Mary made awhile back. For some reason she rolled it up and stuffed it under the work bench.
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Arky are you givin up one of those purty red hats to the winner? Ya know you will have to opt out. I already have one but you can always come up with something else if I won the circle saw division. oh! That would mean you would have to have TWO hats! ;D
Jeff,
I got two hats(https://forestryforum.com/smile/hat2.gif) (https://forestryforum.com/smile/hat2.gif)
since I do not expect you circle blades to try to run with the bands.
Today I did a 0.056 in walnut but know that I can go thinner. I bet 1/ 64th is do able. It was cold and snowing and it kept throwing off my concentration today.
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My entry
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You're not going to believe this........ we finally got that fly to carry those boards under that microscope where we could see them but can't figure out how to measure the thickness.
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This sounds like fun!
If it warms up to the 'teens this weekend I'm gonna have at that frozen oak log (its been laying in the way for three weeks now anyway).
I am a little concerned though. In trying to slice this thing so thin will I actually be cutting cells at the molecular level? This could mean changing the composition of the wood into some other material entirely! (https://forestryforum.com/smile/headscratch.gif)
Or worse yet might I actually be splitting the atoms that make up the molecules!
Well then ......(https://forestryforum.com/smile/Hydrogen.gif)(https://forestryforum.com/smile/bomb.gif)
;) :D
This is cherry
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Couldn't get enough light through so I tryed Willow
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Willow on left Cherry on right
Used the monitor for a light board
Wow! Thats mighty thin. But, I am afraid we will have to deduct points.
The monitor in the picture does not depict the forestry forum. ;D. If I could have saw the FF tree through that I would had to have thought Arky owed somebody a hat. :)
Do you like this one better Jeff
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I can see that there are not many who can cut well enough to compete. I thought that them smooth cutting swingers would be on this but I can see most folks are afraid to enter. Now for Jeff to saw 1/16 with a 60" headrig is saying something. John what did you cut them fine looking shavings with? I will get me some white oak today and makes some paper.
ARKANSAWYER
I'm working on it Arky. I tried yesterday, but I've apparently managed to grind some lead into my teeth. I was having enough trouble getting my trailer plank to come out as nice as usual. I did get under a 16th but the piece wouldn't make 6" x 8'. Them frozen oaks is tough! :D
I'll try again when I can. I know I ain't gonna do any better than John though. :o
splitin atoms!!!!
Dude that's like down to a nuclear level, watch out for explosions...we will have to change your name to:
Ohmama Bin Slabbin
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Hey this is a lot tougher than it looks. My lumber scale doesn't have nanometers on it so I had to use my ruler and with my bifocals that is a chore. First slice was so thin I couldn't see it. Second slice was doing great at about 2 nanometers but after 4 foot the band broke out. Third slice came off whole but decided it was time to quit. I taped a cardboard tree to the backside and with the aid of very bright sun took the picture. At least I can make the see through category. No way was I going to take a picture of it with the calipers on it as that would have assured me of last place. :(
Arkie how many times can I try before I have to submit an official entry?
Larry
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Not bad, Larry. And that's a right purty piece of wood, too. I've got a little work to do on my mill, this weekend, but when I get back in action, I'll show y'all sumpthin. I may not win the overall thinnest title, but I'll bet I can cut the thinnest 4x4 you ever saw. ;D
You guys have way to much time on your hands.
EZ
I have a pile of thin stock in the bedroom and except for the cedar my wife says it has to go. She says the walnut is stinking. She has been wondering if we could glue the red oak like wallpaper. My best so far has been 0.032 in white oak. I guess we can do this for a while. I see that most are afraid to try. It is easy for people to talk about how big a log they sawed but when it comes to see how really good it saws they run off. It looks like the bands are ruleing. Now we may have to seperate the field by brandname of bandmills. My WM can shave 0.040 in just about every thing.
ARKANSAWYER
Arky, keep rattlin' you'll eventually get me out there on the swinger, what happens when I come back and say I've got it down to .025, will it be the saw dust comparison again ;D just clownin. Bet you I can get the finest, thinnest looking sawdust shaving you'll ever see. Seriously, I'll get around to doin it when I get some time.
Thats what we need more swingers with godads. :D I have not seen any big circles trying to out do Jeff. I can tell you this, do not try in persimmon. :o
ARKASAWYER
Jay Brand here. (The Brand in Brand X) I can't resist this one. Next time I get out of the shop and out at the mill I'll fire it up and make some more business cards. 8)
Ron Wenrich knows its no use trying to beat me. ;D
O.K. Arky I gave it another shot with the last log on Sat. I took four slices out of the last piece of the log, each a little smaller.
Here's the whole stack.
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Again from the side.
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The last one.
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I was honestly running out of log and daylight or I would have tried one more. What I was sawing was 7 inches wide out of an 8 foot log. As close as I could tell by checking with my little caliper, they are consistent in thickness over the piece. I know I'm not beating anyone with this, just wanted to show that I was trying.
Wife says, "those are really pretty, what are you going to use them for." I say, "use...ahh...I could...umm...we'll think of something." :D
Hey i thought anything cut under 4 quater was graded as i inch? We should all be rich soon this is value added again and again.
I am amazed that fewer people tried this. I can see where all of the lip flapping ends when you have to prove something.
I can see where Eggsander kept getting thinner and thinner in his stack. It is not as easy as some may think. I have several that can be used to set the points in the old farm truck. It looks like Jeff is the King of circle blades because at least he tried and made a good effort.
ARKANSAWYER
i just read this thread and was fully amazed. last year i had a bunch of friends over to pile logs, they wanted to see how thin i could cut a 4x4, so i cut it. into a 4x3 11/16. while they were gawking at this 'thin' peice of wood. i moved the head down just a touch and got dust along with some paper thin stuff to whip em with.maple. i knew the saw was slightly out of whack, but what the hell, im bulidin an addition to the bus.
this little test proved to be quite the test as to how thin i could cut. never got more than a eighth that day, but it was consistant, and if i didnt have a bunch of boozers around me i know id have done better.
so, gimme some time and hopefully i can impress mabie someone. if im determined, ill go kick around in the snow where the saw used to be and see if i cant trip over the top of the carrage. i know theres a peice of hemlock waitin.
I'd try it with my circle if I had my sh*t together and got to working on the ol' brute ::) Been lazy :D
Way to go Jeff!
This ain't over yet! I've been stymied by the weather, as have a number of others. I haven't sunk a saw into anything in 3 weeks. I still say I can produce the world's thinnest 4x4, so y'all just stand by. ;D
Here is a pic of the forth board that I ever milled. When I got the mill home and put together, I had to cut something, So I found a hunk of a box elder that fell due to the last ice storm and played around with it. The picture isnt very good, but I would say it was pretty close to a 32nth.
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I make these from thin slices of tree. I cut the log top to bottom or through & through . The thickness is about 1/8". Since this one is from a blued log, the log was prety dry to begin with. I mill it and weave it without any drying, with almost no degrade. This one is Blued SYP. The frame is wormy antique SYP. I make them most sizes, and they can be used for everything from Art to suspended ceiling panels.
JIM
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I can not believe that some of you guys are using the weather as an excuse for not sawing. I have had way more snow and ice then you and I have sawn outside every day. But then I am poor and have not a choice. :(
Jim has had the best ideal for a use of the thin stock.
ARKANSAWYER
He sure does, I'm thinking of using his idea for the inside of Tammy's new closet! Wish I had some ERC :-/
We wove the garden gates like that out of locust, they lasted in that use for about 5 years and are now doing duty as a dirt stop at one side of the garden where I built up the road. Never thought of it for a more finished use, thats neat 8).
Hey Jeff,
I can E-mail you some ERC
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My camera is not the best :D but here is my outcome... sorry I couldnt keep it consistent it went from 1/16 down to 1/32 in Walnut. The thin end the micrometer said between 2 and 3 thousandths and on the thick end it read 5 thousandths.
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Today we wanted to saw a bunch of logs. Don'tcha know, it's RAINING pretty hard. We DID get to finish the last of the Cedar and got all the adjustments fine tuned. Here's my contribution of what "Homey" can do. It's tough holding the board, dial indicator AND camera, so it's a little fuzzy. Still can make out .038. Not too shabby for a home built, RIGHT ANDY ?? :D :D :D :D
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That only held it from falling over. I still had to hold it with the caliper because it was wilting!! ;D
Homey is going a fine job if it can shave at 0.038. It must be the Porshe engine. ;D We are still not getting many entrys with this fine weather we have been having.
ARKANSAWYER