I thought it might be neat to start a bragin board of sorts to post pics of big, highly figured, or exotic and unusual logs that members are sawing. I'll start it witht this Honeylocust I got my hands on this week.
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The log was 24"dbhx14' long. Had to use the grapple to let it down easy to avoid crushing the neighbors sidewalk
Wow! and the best part is that if it was you taking it down you were paid a good sum to have that log! Imagine us suckers that pay people to go cut their logs!
Lucky!
KP
Cool pictures :) Holding a log in a grapple in that manner close to breakables and people is SUPER DANGEROUS
Getting out of bed in the morning is dangerous too. Are we supposed to stay in bed all day? Life is a risk. Use your head and keep civilians out of the way. ;)
Quote from: urbanlumberinc on December 13, 2006, 07:59:41 PM
I'll start it witht this Honeylocust I got my hands on this week.
That's as good a place to start as any, honey locust is one of my favorite woods. They can have odd punky spots in them right smack in the middle of a nice board :(, but it looks like from the mill shot it was pretty sound.
Beautiful wood!
Well this is the log I've got on the ground at the moment, I think it's bragworthy too ;)
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It's about 11'6" long, and 43" at the small end (52" at the big end) and looks like it's all solid and mostly clear timber in there. :) It's Monterrey cypress, which is pretty common here, and does grow a lot bigger, but this is a particularly nice log.
Hopefully I can get the saw into it on Saturday and show you whats inside 8)
Ian
Quote from: logwalker on December 13, 2006, 10:02:16 PM
Getting out of bed in the morning is dangerous too. Are we supposed to stay in bed all day? Life is a risk. Use your head and keep civilians out of the way. ;)
That said why make it even more dangerous ??? :)
This is a whopper of a walnut, the base is 30" (without bark) and the length is 13'. The thickness is 3 1/2". Each slab weighs several hundred pounds. This was salvaged from a WALLY WORLD construction site. They leveled the trees all except for this one OLD, nice walnut and I thought "finally some sanity in a crazy world" then a week later the DA%M thing was down, SOB's. Fortunately, I was able to buy it and at least save the beautiful wood. It was right on a REALLY nice farm with a stone house and nice barn, and they are butting the WALLY WORLD right up to the new property line just feet from the house and barn. It was probably the nicest farm/ house I have ever seen (circa 1840-60's maybe earlier). Ahhh progress.
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Reid
yep real nice Crosby
What's all that crayon work for? What do the letters mean? Why you doin' that, eh?
Beeeutiful boards. At the moment I would give you the braggin' rights Reid. Joe
WOW...Thaose are some dandy slabs, Reid ;D ;D ;D
just pine, but 2 nice butt logs 26"tops, showing no flaws on the outside, thought the one shows some on the top cut.
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Pilon
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Last photo shows a full grown man standing near the logs.
You can't say wally world and progress in the same paragraph, it's an oxymoron.
Where is that pilon being cut, I have never seen wood like that?
Dave
Costa Rica and that is my wife's tree - unless people want to be damaged, KEEP YOUR PAWS OFF IT! (not damaged by me, but her... :o )
We bought the whole tree for the house we are building.
Blue marks are for dimensions, and slab #s for inventory. They are supposed to be yellow. I ran out of yellow crayon.
Reid
Wow this is fun! 8) 8) 8)
Ianab, is the Monterey cyprus like redwood? What does it get used for?
FDH pilon....Not much like that in Oregon! ;D
Wood Mills, I still have the genuine love of pine :-* :-*:-*. The others are interesting but pine has my heart. Thanks for the pictures.
I am excited to present a braggin log when I get one ::) ::) ::)!
KD
QuoteIanab, is the Monterey cyprus like redwood? What does it get used for?
The Monterey cyress (Macrocarpa) is probably more like your swamp or bald cypress.
The wood is denser than redwood and a nice honey colour and durable. It gets used for furniture, panelling, outdoor furniture, fence boards and garden landscaping timbers.
This post shows building a big desk out of it.
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=20323.0 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=20323.0)
Cheers
Ian
Hey Urban,
Nice Stick of pretty. Whatcha pinchin it with? whats it mounted to?
one day i will take the time ot learn how to post to this board....I have some pretties to show ya too.
Is that a NEW LUCAS? mighty brite lookin stickers on it....have fun
Dirtdoctor
Yesiree that is a spankin new Lucas. I've put about 30 hours on it so far, sawing up the bigest stuff I can find. The truck is an old F800 with a Prentice boom and grapple that belongs to a couple of friends of mine that run a tree service. The loader has outlived the 3 trucks that at one time or another resided under it. ;D
Harold, do yo saw the butt too? Looks like a lot of wood in it also. How well does the pilon hold that color? Really pretty stuff and man what a log. How many bf will that tree yeild? LeeB ???
LeeB, we plan on sawing the whole tree. Table slabs will come from the shorter section with the limb crotches. I need to cut a long crown root type growth, off the upper side of the Butt log. Then, I want to leave as much of the stump as possible, and saw the log. Might get some more pretty grainy stuff.
There have already been 30 or so bench seat cookies taken from the limbs.
I am not familiar with how the wood holds it's color. It is a very dark red, so, might finish out real dark ?? Have some short pieces from the outside cuts drying here at the house. It got a LOT lighter in weight since I brought it home 4-5 weeks ago. Need to run these pieces through the planer and see what they look like.
I heard there should be around 4000 bd/ft total ??
I don't have anything worth showing, but that walnut of Reid's would be hard to beat even if I went into the woods hunting for something.
What are you planning on doing with those Ried?
WOW 8)
Some really cool pictures guys....keep them coming...that's whats so awesome about wood, no to logs are ever the same
steve
this should be an all picture thread. :D
I am considering entering a 12 step program for both rusty iron addiction and collecting cool wood. Actually, I sell some and use/ inventory some for my own use.
I will be posting a Mother Load of pics to establish my standing tonight. ::)
Reid
This is my 12 step program.
Well, 13, actually. Call it a sawyer's dozen. :D
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Doesn't look it in the picture, but the eastern red cedar slabs are almost 8' long, and average 15" wide.
Nice job Woodbeard ;D ;D ;D
And that is a stairway to...... ??? ??? ???
Here's a slab of 12/4 walnut we sawed.
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My computer died while trying to post all the pictures. I will try when I get my computer working again (I am at a freind's house using their's to check e mail.
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Well, I am back. Here are few more. Most of these are continously burled hard maple and cherry. I will post a few more soon.
Reid
Reid
Ok, here are a few more from my cutting.
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I also just cut a triple crotch walnut (free hand) it is really nice but no picture yet.
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Reid
Directions on how ya cut that, Por Favor, Senor.
Got one to do myself. Only lots bigger ::) ::) Mine has 1 side limb and the rest is where they cut the limbs off. ::)
Reid,
smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw smiley_eek_dropjaw
Wow those are some beautiful boards. I pass a maple tree at the state cemetary in town each day that would make burl boards like those. I think I will introduce myself to the head grounds keeper tomorrow. :)
Quote from: Fla._Deadheader on December 18, 2006, 08:28:23 PM
Directions on how ya cut that, Por Favor, Senor.
Got one to do myself. Only lots bigger ::) ::) Mine has 1 side limb and the rest is where they cut the limbs off. ::)
Do you see those levels and straight edges FDH? They aren't laying there for nothing. the chalk is in his shirt pocket. Least that's how I'm going to do my big sycamore. Plumb lines will work too. Not to mention a laser line. ;)
But wait! I CAN"T do that! I am a little guy that is impossible for me to do! :o :D :D :D :D
Senor FLDH,
1. Stare at it for 5 months in the field standing as it grew in the yard in town (this allows it to fully seat into the ground and become stable for cutting)
2. Then , begn to panic as the "cool" fall weather never came, become worried that the sapwood will stain and discolor and be ruined.
3. Realize that you really need to get this @##$ done because there is literally thousands of dollars of money that has rotted in the feild waiting for you to "get to it" in past years.
4. GET MAD. your tired of wasting that cash.
5. GET CRAZY, grab the saw.
6. GO TO YOUR QUIET PLACE in your mind and become calm as you realize the seriousness of a mistake.
7. Make sure the chain is equally sharp and balanced.
8. ENVISION a staight line were you want to cut and hold the 394 over your head with a 6' bar (your off balance on a ladder, dum idea anyway)
9. cut slowly and methodically (mantra "let the chain do the work").
10. IT WORKED!! WOW. picture's will be forthcoming.
THE LEVEL AND OIL QUART ARE FOR SCALE IN THE PICTURE. THE OLD RAIL LINE WAS SOME SCRAP LYING AROUND TO REST THE LOG ON. I EYEBALLED THIS ONE.
Reid
Well then it can be done that way too, obviously. But remember FDH, you are a mere mortal so take that into consideration. ::)
DanG, ya mean I gotta stand it back up, and stand the Peterson on end :o :o :o
I can't even come close to competing with that there Reid fellar. Than we have this other fellar sawing some kind of foreign red wood beyond belief...and this other CR guy that don't wanta share.
So this is my feeble entries.
Little glimpse of something going out in the morning for Christmas.
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And it is all home grown.
Of course I always find this stuff delicious.
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And this thread started with honey locust.
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Larry,
That is some good stuff.
I did just cut a continously burled honey locust from the Pitt Campus just over the hill from us. It is one of the branch campuses. Fortunately it was that close and I could run my forklift up the road to get the HEAVY log. I will be taking pictures of the sequential cuts soon. The edge is really neat with it's undulating character. There is a crotch for the last 3-4' and the log is 30" wide and 12' long. Like I said HEAVY!.
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NOTE the curls in the walnut slabs next to the truck.
OK, I'll stop now, SORRY this is a major pursuit for me (cool wood). I didn't start this thread just excited to share the neat stuff I have found.
Reid
Reid, if you don't get down here before I get back to the states, I'm gonna Have to look you up. When we started sawing, Ed would look at me when I would drag a scruffy lookin chunk over to the mill. He soon learned to drool all over it, just like we do. ;) :D :D :D :D
FDH,
Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. We have been gunning to to to CR for years and the Misses says we need a vacation and the summer is a tough time for Skeeters up north so looks like south is the direction. See ya soon!
Reid
Just bring it on. Wait till ya see the Ojoche Tree we gotta fall and saw. :o :o :o :o
Like I said before Ried that stuff is awesome. But Larry don't hang your head that wood is gorgeous too.
I guess theoretically we must have walnuts that big down here but I haven't seen one. Hopefully one day. I do have a big sycamore I am going to slice up like that for a table top but of course I do not think syc has figuring like that.
FDH, you might consider getting with TACA (are they still in business?) and asking for a commission for all the FFers coming your way at this rate. :)
I know you are a diver, I can't imagine you would not take a trip to Cocos. Best time is between June and November. We are going to make the trip in that window by 08 for sure and if things don't get too hairy maybe this coming Sept for the gathering of hammerheads. I think that is the prime month. Harold you have the enviable opportunity to get within a stones throw of a huge pelagic like a whale shark; Cocos is one of the best places on earth to do it with a fair amount of certainty next only to certain places off Thailand. I will never forget slowly ascending the pinnacles of Saba and a dark cloud came over me; the biggest Atlantic Ray I ever saw. It felt like I was floating in space and one of those Empire Battlecuruisers went right over me in slow motion like the opening scene in Star Wars.
The Okeanos Aggressor is pretty good I hear but it's a cattle boat and I prefer smaller boats. I am hoping you will get hooked on diving Cocos and Bat Island so by the time we get there you will already have found a nice little operation so we can avoid the cattle boats. ;)
Only reason I would have to dive the ocean again, is, with the Great Whites. :o :o
I just love to watch them things. Awesome does NOT describe them. 8) 8) 8)
Then you need to take up Abalone diving off Catalina Island or salvage exploration in the murky waters of SF bay. They get taste-tested by GWs about every few years or so it seems. :o
Or the GBR . . . . . but if you don't make rendezvous you might get left behind if you are an American. :'(
Here's photos of a bench I've nearly got completed. The slabs are Russian Olive, the bowties are bocote, a(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/Russian%20Olive%20bench01.jpg)
nd the wedges are wal(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/Russian%20Olive%20bench%20end%20closeup.jpg)
nut. I've still got a bit of sanin(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/russian%20olive%20bench%203.jpg)
g to do.
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The tree it came from, I posted these awhile ago(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/Russian%20grain%20closeup%204.jpg)
Wow guys.......... pinkie_invert smiley_bounce pinkie_invert smiley_bounce smiley_bouncing_pinky smiley_bounce :o :o :o
Awesome wood......
Nice bench urban ;) The only thing I like better than threads with pics of cool lumber in them, is the ones with pics of the furniture everyone makes from them :)
my turn. Picked up one log, in melrose close to boston.....turned out we now think it is elm...no one knew what it was on the jobsite and I picked it up alone, no leaves or branches to look at. But, the Q sawn looks like elm with little rays, and...... :D hit the end cut off with my biggest maul and yep it bounced right off. Surprised it didn't dutch elm die long ago.
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:o :o :o That there WM is FULLA log :o :o :o Nice catch. Pretty wood.
the board in the first picture is 25 inces wide 8 foot long and 6/4 thick and clear :o 8)
How did you cut a 25" board on a WM?
Woodmills1,
American elm died out with the dutch elm disease eccept for a few that are isolated. They are huge, I will have to get a few pics of some when it freezes up again here. The old ones died in the woods but the seeds grew quickly and when they get so big the beetles bring the disease back around and kills them in mass as the trees will root graft easily and one gets it they all do. But the new seed starts it all over again. The elm makes it to timber size sometimes but just mainly firewood size. Burns good as firewood though. :)
Farmerdoug
this was a city tree that musta somehow escaped disease and he has another in the back yard.
Woodmizers acually open to 28 inches but to use that capacity I push the cant over the stops and block up the bottem with 3/4 stock. When they are that big a sharp blade won't move them. As this customer watched in amazement at me cuttinting this 3 foot 4 inch on bottem log I said, arent ya glad this isn;t my first pass across the dance floor. ;D :D 8) :P
Woodmills,
Looks like Elm to me. Could it be slippery elm? I found one several years ago that was a streetscape tree. It was 34" and maybe 10'. I cut it to 3 1/2" thick thru and thru. It had pin knot equally spaced (not like burl pin knot) like from sucker growth. It is very nice material. I ned to photograph it anyhow, maybe in the next month or so I will try to get a picture. I enjoy all the variation of the different urban salavage trees I get. I just hualed in some really big Catalpa (or as they say in Pa. "Toby tree"), I don't know what they will yeild but I will find out.
Reid
Quote from: metalspinner on December 22, 2006, 09:23:59 PM
How did you cut a 25" board on a WM?
Put the back stops down. If it is a cant, put spacers on the log deck and slide the cant as far as you can over the top of the short tabs so it just clears the guide roller. With a log, wedge a 4x4 or whatever in between the tabs and the log so you can cut as wide as possible between the guides. The weight of the cant usually holds it in place. I do it all the time ;D
Here are some pics of some 26" X 17' 8/4 red oak slabs I cut. I got 9 of these slabs from this cant.
I plan on using these for Counter tops, bar tops and maybe a table or two in my house :)
This Q/sawn piece from the center will most likely need split down the middle because the pith is in the center.
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I wish these pics could be bigger so to show more detail, but here are what I've got. You can't realy see how I have them on the bed, but you can get the point.
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Here is one you can see the spacers under the cant.
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yep, do it all the time. :D
Birdseye maple
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Curly Maple
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Spaulted Maple
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Cheery Burl
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Nice stuff, the second spaulted in the run takes it for me. Reid
Here's some more pictures of the Russian Olive bench now with finish on it. Finish is 2 coats tung oil followed by 4 coats poly.
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Sorry I haven't got any juicy logs to show off, been stuck in the shop the whole last week with the snow we've been getting. Should warm up again next week and melt it off though
Well, I finally got the burled Honey Locust slabs photographed. There are ton more pictures but these give the LOOK of the undulating edge and the cool grain. The slabs are 10' tall and 3" thick The crotch is 48" at the widest. Reid
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Those are awesome Reid..... ;) ;) ;)
Reid, I know you cut those crotches that way for the effect. Would it not show more-better figure if sawn 90° from the way you did it ???
I may start cutting my big piece tomorrow or Thursday ???
He got it right, deadheader. :)
Cut it like a pair of pants laying on the mill.
If you cut it with the legs vertical, you won't get anything if the bark inclusion wanders. AT best, you will get two boards either side of the crack..
You can get figure either way but better if the log is laying down.
The big gamble is whether there is a crack in the crotch or you luck up big time and get one that is solid. Even with the crack, boards with a lot of figure can be taken from either side. :)
FDH,
No the grain is always better 1/4 sawn. If you saw it as shown you get the feather in the crotch and the burl all around. Saw the other way, 90* and you still get burl but no crotch. Either will still give you 1/4 at the heart for a few cuts. Some of the center slabs will be split down the center, they have already been split and book matched. My pictures didn't do them justice due to the distance trying to get all 10' into the picture.
By the way CR is out, we are fossil hunting in the Dakota's(train ride out plane back andcar camping Paleontologist's in between, that's good for 5 year old AH?)
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Reid
Thanks. This thing is a 3 branch deal. No matter which way I place it, I get some cut askew from the pants thingy ::) ::)
No problem with CR, Reid. Enjoying the moment is what's important, especially to that "young 'un". 8)
cut some 3 and 4 inch thick 24 inch wide maple today but no pictures, the customer came and bought all of them lickyt split.
I cut some thick box elder slabs today too at the end of the sawing about 30 min ago. They turned out so awesome I keepin 'em for the missus to make sumptin for her. No ideers yet. Benches for the covered area near the garden maybe where they won't get sun.
I saw enough q2uilting in this stuff that I thought of tiger maple. Wish we had some of that stuff down here.
Harold, ya might try putting the smallest of the three branches as straight up as possible, but use the other two as your guide so that they are level.
You'll end up with slabs just like boards cut on a band mill where there is a branch sticking up.
Oh, WE WANT PICS! ;D
The one limb left on the log, is, about 4' long, and 3' dia., or more ::) ::)
Pics, PICS ??? Whuts dat ??? ??? ???
Some awsome cherry, best curl I have ever seen in cherry.
These are still rough sawn. 5/4 x 11" wide 11' long
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Reid
Wow. I am not a fan of Cherry but that stuff is awesome. I wish we had Cherry around here. All we have is the domestically planted stuff which is far and few between.
Great find Reid.
You'll satisfy a lot of questioning people if you identify the orientation of the grain in those boards. :D They sure are pretty.
WHOW dems pertty
Thats the most gorgeous cherry I've ever seen!
Thanks, yeah, from a guy who travels far and wide for cool wood, that's the nicest cherry I have seen as well. The size of the cut, 11' and 11" wide is amazing as well.
Reid
Reid, where do you get your logs from? I hardly ever find any with figure like the ones you have.
Anyway, anywhere. Most times in cherry and walnut the figure is not giving you any hints from the outside. You gotta cut cut cut and keep your eyes open, looking for the figure. Maple figure is EASY to see, the others are more elusive.
Reid
These just went into the kiln, this is one of two bookmatched sets from this huge Siberian Elm. 12'6" long, 52" ath the widest point (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/me%20with%20huge%20bookmatched%20elm%20boards%20web.jpg)
all are 12/4. Each cut took about 40 mins and required refueling and oiling sometimes twice. These have lost over half their original weight and still weigh in the neighborhood of 400 lbs a piece.
Urban,
Do you sling'em and swing'em? These walnuts are around that weight and that is how I photographed them. The level is a 4'er, they are 13' tall and 4" thick. Makes handling an issue for sure. Those look very nice. I once cut some 40' long 40" wide red oak, it took seven fill ups for some of the cuts. The Husky 394 drinks the fuel at high RPMs'.
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Quote from: urbanlumberinc on June 18, 2007, 11:14:59 PM
These just went into the kiln,
That's what I want to know about. Finding them and cutting them is the easy part. What are your drying methods for slabs this thickeness and what kind of kiln are you putting them in?
It's good old fashioned back strength that moves the lumber round here. Can't quite afford anything else for the time being. The slabs were air dryed for a year before going into the kiln. Kiln is an all solar, 12x20' homemade job. It's running three 16" 12vdc fand powered by a 64 watt solar panel. It's worked nicely on the two previous loads, though this will be the first load of slabs.
I would approximate a two year turn around on mine (4" thick). That is a loooong cash conversion cycle for sure. If I had a client who wanted them sooner I would send them to a vaccum kiln. I will air dry them for 1 1/2 years then into Ebac LD3000.
Reid
Reid, how long does it take in the dh kiln after airdrying? :P
How do you guys remember when you cut the slabs? Do you keep a record book and number the slabs, or just write the date on the slabs themsleves?
And what DanG said. How long will they be in the DH?
ul how long you guessing on the slabs in the solar?
This one just came down today. White Ash, 39" dbh 13'6" long, 106 years old by the ring count (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/ash%20before%20the%20murder%20web.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/OC%20cutting%20web.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/butt%20log%20coming%20down%20web.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/adam%20in%20front%20of%20the%20logs%20web.jpg)
best part is, didn't cost a nickel 8) 8) 8)
Wow 8) 8) 8) 8) 8). I am sure the pics of that clear ash lumber will be forthcoming ;D.
Kevjay,
Everything has codes (spray painted) that tells date, source, and dimension. Local newspaper guy called it "Crosby Code". ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OTribcover.jpg)
Izat you in the paper Reid? Whoever it is i thought at first glance it was a surfing ad. I thought "DanG that surfboard ain't gonna work too well with that hole in it." ;D
UL that ash is one good looking log. We have "brown ash" here not much white ash.
YUP, Me. Now can I say I was a coverboy? or just a poster child?
;D :D
Reid
So how about laying out this Crosby Code for us in another thread?
Stew
Just thought i'd post some pictures of some crotch wood. A Honeylocust and some walnut. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10808/Honeylocust_crotch_planed.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10808/walnut_crotch.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10808/walnut_crotch_2.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10808/walnut_crotch_3.jpg)
NICE!!!! Reid
I too have a code for my slabs, for example, a slab might be labled BW1020607, the BW for black walnut. the 1 for the log # (I number logs in the order I get them and start over each month) the 02 being the flitch # (I number them in the order they come off the saw) the 0607 for june 07. It hasn't failed me yet. As for tallying bdft of unusual slabs, I usew the following methon. I measure the slab length from one end down both live edges, making a mark with lumber crayon every 12". I measure the width between the 12" marks and record that number in crayon on the slab. I then add the total of all the width measurements. I take that #, the thickness and plug them into the bdft calculator in the forum toolbox and I get an accurate measurement every time. the measurements obtained by my previous method were low by an average of 20%. If I could have all that free money I gave away..........
Thanks Ironwood,
I wish i had taken some close ups of the walnut. Some of them have really nice feather figure. The honeylocust i had just planed with the Lucas planing disc and put some water on. I wish i had taken successive pictures of that honeylocust crotch as it just got more colorful. It even had some really interesting pink colors in some areas.
Unfortunately i had let that honeylocust crotch sit for a couple of years before cutting it. It has since split and seperated quite a bit in some areas. Still staying pretty flat though.
UBI, I too try to keep boards and slabs in order and label them. That is why i have often in the past used primer to seal end grain. I can then use a black permanent marker to label them and give them a grade or other info according to figure or use.
I found out a long time ago how much fun it can be to locate a special board i wanted in a big stack.
I really love moving and restacking lumber several times. (Yes, I'm being sarcastic).[size=10pt][/size]
Well, here they are. I had I buyer lined up for the wood who wanted timbers cut for a timberframe garden gate he's building. Couple 8x8's, couple 6x8's, couple 4x6's and a bunch of 4x4. I was able to saw his entire cutlist with about 100 bdft of lumber left over for myself, plus the two bookmatched slabs. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/first%20cut%20best%20shot%20web.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/Tom%20with%20the%20pile%20of%20timbers%20web.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/Ash%20slb%20grain%20colseup%20web.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/Ash%20slab%20web.jpg)
I have not had alot to brag about lately, just sawing nails ::). I did mill a couple decent yard trees last week though. A pretty nice cedar and a decent walnut. I managed to get some wide-ish lumber from them 15"-19". (I am 6'3" for scale) I milled all the walnut, but have 4 cedar logs that size or bigger to get to later. I plan on cutting them after I get an order, no use having the wrong thickness laying around (been there). They will be just fine in the log.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12216/walnut%20-%20Copy.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12216/cedar%20-%20Copy.jpg)
Darin,
VERY nice boards.
To bad yer gonna have to cut the cedar off to get er in the door.
:D :D :D :D
Quote from: Haytrader on July 02, 2007, 02:25:36 PM
Darin,
To bad yer gonna have to cut the cedar off to get er in the door.
:D :D. Nah, my shed has 2-9' roll up doors like the one I am standing in front of and a 12'x12' slider...if I tip them sideways I can sneak them in that one. Whew, it's gonna be close though :D
Nice 8).
Here are a few current pics. I love to sand and then can't wait to see the curl (fun time). I will not show the whole piece just yet, these are quick pics, my photographer and I will be photographing several pieces of new furniture designs tomorrow. This was and urban tree from a site cleared for condos. I have had this curly walnut in inventory for several years. Good to finally see it with a finish on.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0773.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0781.jpg)
I can't wait until you get the digital camera battery charged up ;D. That curly walnut is breathtaking :).
Holy cow Reid!!!! That is some of the prettiest walnut I've ever seen ;)
Can't wait to see the finished piece
I found this while doing some road grading on the ranch. By far and away the biggest pinon pine I'd ever seen. I kinda stumbled into it while cutting a path through some scrubbies. (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/best%20pinon%20shot%20web.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13730/The%20pinon%20web.jpg)
pictures of the slabs will be coming shortly 8)
WHAT??
You cut it down?? ::) ::) ??? ??? ???
It looks kinda dead to me beenthere. From what I found on the internet, that don't look like any kind of condition that pine is going to pull out of.
I never heard of pinon pine much less seen on,but that sure is a gnarly looking tree, I cant wait to see the lumber.
Yes, it looks like re-incarnation time..........
Looks like it was already dead. Good thing urbanlumberinc was there to revive it :)!
For the record: the tree was dead, not a single green needle. It is company policy, as well as my own personal beleif that no live trees be cut down for the sole purpose of producing lumber. I am from time to time offered the opportunity to cut down a tree just for it's lumber. I always politely decline, my reason always being that it seems a bit unwise to be killing off my business partners.
It's not that I have anything against traditional timber harvest methods, just that that's already being done on a scale that I can't compete with. I decided early on that I was gonna dedicate myself and my business to the sale and promotion of reclaimed and recycled lumber. I take great pride in the fact that every single board in my inventory was destined for a landfill, tub grinder, or firewood pile.
Quote from: urbanlumberinc on July 06, 2007, 01:20:20 AM
For the record: the tree was dead, not a single green needle. It is company policy, as well as my own personal beleif that no live trees be cut down for the sole purpose of producing lumber.
I assume you are referring to an urban environment? I don't want to take your statement out of context.
If I took that view on my property, I could not afford to own it because it would be just an income drain to pay for taxes and upkeep. Without a forest managemenet objective, it would turn into double-wide lots. I don't feel double-wide lots have any inherent value to the natural ecosystem, so even though I grow trees to harvest, at least the property is in a working forest instead of lawns.
Could you saw more about your company policy?
urban you don't mean you would not take a live but unwanted tree from a homeowner/city/business etc do you ???
okay, I'll clarify for everyone - the logs I get are for some reason or another coming down anyway. The three most common reasons I get logs are:
1. The tree is dead or dying, or is a hazard to property or safety.
2. the tree is being removed for development
3. storm damage.
I refer to my product as recyled and reclaimed due to the fact that around here logs go to the landfill, or in limited instances, the tub grinder.
I did have a guy awhile back offer to let me cut down his red oak and saw it up for a share of the boards. After I told him that I'm not a tree service and do not do removals, and that he'd need to hire one, he let on that he didn't want to spend any money because all he wanted was a few boards to make a bookshelf out of. I questioned him a bit further and came to find out that his only motivation was to cut the tree down for some free lumber. In the end I persuaded the guy to keep the tree, and buy some oak boards at the local lumberyard instead.
Now, that said, it should be known that I only apply this policy to the urban forest. I understand perfectly well the need for responsible forest management which includes logging, and have no problems at all with such practices. Just because in some of my advertising I boast about providing recycled material instead of traditionally logged wood doesn't mean I have any problem with traditionally harvested wood. Furthermore, just cuz I stuck to my principles in the above mentioned instance doesn't mean I didn't kick myself all the way home for doing it ::) ::) ::)
Oh, and kevjay, it depends why the tree is unwanted, for example if somone just wants to cut down a perfectly good tree for some silly reason like "it's too messy" or "there's too many squirells" I'll try to change their mind. Alot of times people make a rash decision about cutting a tree down only to realize later that for example their house is 15deg hotter in the summertime because they cut down their afternoon shade.
OK. I understand, and it sounds like a very good and successful business plan. Thanks for the elucidation :). Recovering what would be lost is a good cause.
Well, since this is the "Braggin board", here is the chair. This is MY own style. When looked at by someone in the "field" I am in, this is a "Reid Crosby" chair. Each builder (hopefully) has something that makes his/ her's unique, especially at the higher end of refinement all builders have certain things that make them unique. 100 years from now, some one will be able to look at a "Barry Gregson" chair and know it is his and many of the same goes for other builders of buffets and the like (Randy Holden, Barney Belliinger) on and on. We all bring a style. This is mine. The construction represents 10+ years of figuring out the nuiances of a great chair. I am self taught, and very blessed. Sometimes it makes me cry the skills God has given me. I cut ALL of the material for this chair. All the surfaces are sculpted, the only flat spots on the ENTIRE chair are where the slats meet the rungs. It is signed and dated as well.
On another note, sometimes a piece is more than the sum of it's parts. This is one of those occurences. It happens MAYBE a couple of times a year if your lucky.
Reid Crosby 2007
PS. Yes, it is as comfortable as it is beautiful
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/Owalnutchair1.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/Owalnutchair2.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/Owalnutchair6.jpg).
Nice lookin' chair ,Reid. The contrast between the slab surfaces and the stick frame is nice. How's the weight and balance? A problem with some of the things we make is we forget smaller folk have to shove things around too.
Good pics on this thread to all. Had a chance to come sniffing on the Forum and what a sweet taste of saw dust. I've been horridly busy, haven't run the saw in months. Looking forward to retiring at the end of the year so I can check in regular again.!
Beautiful chair, Reid. 8)
Is it one of a set? Was it commissioned ? A part of a larger dining set?
Lud,
There is a balance between strength and use, it is a compromise.
Metalspinner,
It is a "one off" collectors piece, although there may be an upcoming order for two. It is a design I came up with several years ago and I finally built it. I have several shows this fall and wanted it for the events.
Reid
Reid, I don't think I know anyone personally that could afford to buy that chair for what I feel its worth. I love it.
Thanks for the compliment. There in lies the challenge.
I have been very blessed to have found people who appriciate AND can afford the skills it takes to build something like that. I never forget that, EVERY day! AND mine are not the most expensive in the market place I am in.
Reid
Very nice Reid. I bet it's hard to be humble when you have that much talent. I wouldn't know. :)
Reid, that is very original and organic. Like a fine cut diamond, that is one for the ages. I love it smiley_really_happy.
Just wanted to share this here (it's also on the other ' most unique wood you milled" thread) This is blistered eastern soft maple. I also describe this as water mark for obvious reasons.
Reid (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0899.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0901.jpg)
In that piece, if someone could not appreciate the design, beauty of the wood or the vision it took to create the chair, they do not deserve to own it. It is a one-off functional piece of artwork.
Bravo Reid!!
I wish we had wood like that back here. Outsanding! 8) 8)
Reid, it looks like you have came across another treasure stash. I'm sure with your talent and skills you will turn that wood into something quite nice.
I think a lot of us saw figured wood but fail to recognize it. I know for sure I have made that mistake in the past. Last week I was helping a new sawyer with problems...he had sawn curly walnut that morning and didn't notice the figure.
JPGreen,
Beautiful wood abounds in every nook and cranny, you just have to know where to find it and let folks know what yer looking for. Some extreme norhtern climates it may get tough (tundra can effect tree growth ::)), but it is around.
Larry,
Thanks, I just love interesting stuff. I am working on a bed right now that is made from 1880's true wrought iron hand rails from part of a church in the lower Hill District in Pittsburgh, it came from Church of the Epiphany. They "had" to knock part of it over for a new HOCKEY arena. Cool wood/ iron makes no difference to me. This iron has no welds, it is all riveted, collared, or tenoned, even the flat bar angled intersections are half lapped (can not really get his quality anywhere these days ). REALLY neat stuff. The first two pics I am fitting it, the others are before cutting it up. It ws a little unnerving cutting these up, 100+ years old, I view it as somewhat of a responsibility (treating them right) . (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0920.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0921.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0600.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0603.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0599.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11262/OIMG_0606.jpg)