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Title: finishing pecan bed
Post by: pigman on January 10, 2007, 12:51:41 PM
I am working on a pecan bed and two night stands. I am somewhat finishing challenged and want to know what wound be a good finish to put them. I have spraying equipment and  brushes. I started on this project back in Sept. and need to get it finished. The customer says he is sleeping on the floor now. I like to look at pecan, but I hate to work with it.

Bob
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Don K on January 10, 2007, 02:56:47 PM
Can't help with finish, but will follow closely as I've had a stack drying for a year and am planning a couple of projects. I know it is a hard wood like hickory.   Don
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Brad_S. on January 10, 2007, 03:13:46 PM
Since you have spraying capability, IMO you just can't beat the look of a sprayed nitro-cellulose lacquer satin finish. Durable, pretty, repairable and easy to apply with the right equipment.
If you have a Sherwin Williams Professional store near you, SW makes a good lacquer. (The average SW paint store won't know what you're talking about.)
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Quartlow on January 11, 2007, 09:13:39 PM
I've take a personal preference to M.L Campells products myself

http://www.mlcampbell.com/pages/home.asp

It's almost stupid proof, even I can spray it and thats saying something
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: pigman on January 11, 2007, 10:10:30 PM
Thanks for the replies.   Quartlow,   
QuoteIt's almost stupid proof,
is not good enough for me, I need something stupid proof. ::)

Bob
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Don_Papenburg on January 11, 2007, 10:23:35 PM
He was bein nice Bob , go ahead and use it .  I plan on switching most all of my finnishing over to laquer of one type or another .   I only use clear finnish on my projects , I figure if it needs color added then I should make it out of mdf crap.   
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: pigman on January 11, 2007, 10:40:12 PM
I was kidding with Quartlow. I can't find the nearest distributor for MLCampells because it takes a spreadsheet program to open the file and this new computer doesn't have that program. I think I need to grab some programs off the old computer. I suppose I could just call the 800 number on the website and ask.

Bob
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: TexasTimbers on January 12, 2007, 12:28:15 PM
I agree with Brad. I am a recent lacquer convert!
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: pigman on January 12, 2007, 01:15:40 PM
Here are a couple pictures of the pecan bed. I have  done panel beds with flat and raised panels,  but this is the first time I have done angled panels. I try to do what the customer wants. If a person learns by their mistakes than I should be a lot smarter after this bed. I put some lacquer on the panels before I did the glue up so when the panels shrink there will not be any unfinished wood showing.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10432/pecanhead_bed_op.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10432/pecanfoot_bed_op.jpg)

I am starting on the two night stands. At the rate I did the bed I should be finished with them by July. ;D

Edit:  I just noticed that the picture of the headboard is of the back side. The front side looks better I think. ::) I noticed because there was no finish on the panels. There was   a lot of dust on my glasses when I took the picture and I couldn't tell what was the front side.
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: TexasTimbers on January 12, 2007, 02:04:50 PM
Beautiful. Nice layout with the contrasting light/dark boards. 
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 12, 2007, 02:34:53 PM
Nice work bob, love the wood. Pecan probably has little surprise knots or dark spots like butternut when you plane and joint. I have discovered a few little hidden hard knots about 1/4" to 1/2" diameter. Most times I hide them on the inside faces, but they would look fine on the up face to. :) I found some weird inclusions that I wouldn't call a knot, it will show itself on the edge of the board but not surface on the broad faces. Never seen nothing like it.
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Norm on January 12, 2007, 04:28:52 PM
Very nice Bob, I'm hoping to be able to try out my bed making skills this spring. Both sons were home this Christmas and commented how uncomfortable the guest beds were....yeah like that was by accident. :D
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on January 12, 2007, 05:38:31 PM

  Too funny, Norm.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 12, 2007, 06:48:08 PM
I know the feeling them boys went through with a bad bed. My uncle insists on using old slat springs that the dinosaurs slept on and I can't sleep in a bed that feels like I'm laying in a hammock, with my butt sag'n and my feet elevated above my knees.  ::)
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Don K on January 12, 2007, 10:46:02 PM
Bob, Nice looking work. I didn't know pecan had such beautiful wood until I joined the Forum.
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Paschale on January 14, 2007, 04:05:03 PM
That is beautiful wood, and a great looking bed!   8)   How far north does pecan grow?  Anyone know?
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: pigman on January 14, 2007, 06:06:20 PM
How far north does pecan grow?    I have only seen two  around here and I sawed both of them. They were planted in the back yard of an old house next to the Ohio River.

Bob
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 14, 2007, 06:51:02 PM
Paschale, it's mostly along the drainage of the Mississippi R and Gulf coast rivers but on dryer knolls, eastern Tx and eastern Mexico. As far north at eastern Iowa and east to southern Indiana. It's planted in the Carolinas and Virginia for nut production, also planted in other states to the south and west. In nature it is quite scattered in abundance.
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Larry on January 14, 2007, 07:23:53 PM
Pecan nuts is big business across a narrow band in central Missouri.  The farmers sell nuts out of the back of there pickup's along most of the major highways.

Sometimes the market for pecan lumber gets overheated and to relieve the pressure a lot of hickory gets mixed in.
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: WDH on January 24, 2007, 09:49:23 AM
That pecan is beautiful, pigman.  That will be a super nice bed!
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Riles on January 24, 2007, 09:24:08 PM
Surprisingly, the largest producer of pecans in the US is Arizona.
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 24, 2007, 09:38:14 PM
Quote from: SwampDonkey on January 24, 2007, 09:34:09 PM
Not really, Mexico is also a big producer as well.

Water problems in Mexico (http://www.aquamedia.at/templates/index.cfm/id/18939)
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: WDH on January 24, 2007, 10:20:41 PM
Pigman,

I made some pecan wainscott from quartersawn pecan for my mudroom.  I stained the pecan with a 50:50 mix of minwax golden oak and minwax provincial.  The topcoat is Minwax quick drying satin polyurethane.  Here are a few pics...

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14370/107-0761_IMG.JPG)

Here is more of a close-up..

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14370/107-0762_IMG.JPG)

The sapwood is honey brown and the heartwood has a little red in it.
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 24, 2007, 10:32:30 PM
Nice job WDH, now we even have some pics of wainscoting. :) Very popular in old houses around here, only thing is it tended to get painted.  ::)
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: WDH on January 24, 2007, 10:40:37 PM
Most wainscoting I see today in new houses is painted beadboard from 4x8 beadboard panels.  I am a traditionalist and like the old style wood wainscoting.  In my house, I have the pecan, oak, cypress, and walnut wainscotting in various parts of the house.  Nothing like having a sawmill  8).  Of course it does not take a sawmill, you just have to like real wood!
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 24, 2007, 10:59:14 PM
I've got oak wainscoting here, but the old place used to have painted spruce wainscoting around the kitchen, pantry and dining room, but were torn out in renovations in the 70's.
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: pigman on January 24, 2007, 11:00:34 PM
WDH,  That wainscoting looks nice. As hard as pecan is and with that finish the wainscoting should hold up to horses kicking it.

If it doesn't snow tomorrow I will deliver the pecan bed and nightstands. I will try to remember to get a picture of the bed after it is set up in the room.

Bob
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 24, 2007, 11:08:34 PM
We'll be waiting. ;D
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: pigman on January 25, 2007, 01:41:35 PM
This is the pecan bed and night stands I just back from delivering. I through  some lacquer on the bed.  I sure hope it doesn't collapse tonight when they sleep on it. I grabbed my money and ran before they tried out the bed.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10432/pecan_bed_op.jpg)

Bob
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Norm on January 25, 2007, 02:04:59 PM
Very nice Bob. smiley_thumbsup

Thanks for showing us. :)
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: SwampDonkey on January 25, 2007, 03:00:25 PM
You done good young man. :) 8)  How was the foot during the 'run'?  ;D
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: WDH on January 25, 2007, 03:02:14 PM
That clear finish on the pecan sure looks good!
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: Furby on January 25, 2007, 11:58:32 PM
Nice job Bob, nice job! smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: getoverit on January 26, 2007, 01:12:47 AM
absolutely beautiful bob!  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: finishing pecan bed
Post by: WDH on January 26, 2007, 08:44:09 AM
You even matched the wood to the dust ruffle!  I am impressed ;D.