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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: Jeff on May 14, 2007, 12:16:19 AM

Title: Unknown evergreen(Identified. Norway spruce)
Post by: Jeff on May 14, 2007, 12:16:19 AM
When we were in Wisconsin, Pasbuild was describing an evergreen that he could not identify. When we were loding the Peterdon sawmill at Burlkraft's, it just so happened that Pasbuild spotted the exact same type of tree growing there by his driveway.  At first I thought it to be a Norway spruce, but I don't think I am correct now.  I snapped these photos for Bob so we could post them here.

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Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: DanG on May 14, 2007, 12:34:34 AM
A few years ago, in the waning days of the last Century, I was visiting a friend in Maine.  He had a tree in his yard that, to the best of my recollection, looked a lot like that.  He called it a Weeping Hackmatack.
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: Jeff on May 14, 2007, 12:44:01 AM
As far as I ever knew, Hackmatack was slang for Tamarack or Larch.  Larch looses all of its needles in the fall where as this tree does not.
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: Gary_C on May 14, 2007, 01:38:29 AM
Looks like a Norway Spruce or White Spruce. I'm not sure how you tell them apart. Why did you think it was not a Norway Spruce?
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: Jeff on May 14, 2007, 05:19:06 AM
Because of it's weeping branches. The Norways I know of that are Norways , look very similar but the branches do not hang quite like this one. Other then that, the cones look right, the needles look right, everything else looks right to me.  White spruce have small cones. The cones on the tree pictured are large, probably 5 to 7 inches in length.
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: Ianab on May 14, 2007, 06:45:28 AM
Himalayan Spruce - Picea smithiana ??

The big cones, weeping branches and bark look right.

It's an asian species but we see it growing in NZ.

Cheers

Ian
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: Dodgy Loner on May 14, 2007, 02:30:26 PM
Being a southerner, the only spruce I ever see much of is red spruce, but have you considered that it could be a weeping Norway spruce, Picea abies 'Pendula'?  It looks like a normal Norway spruce with the exception of the drooping branches, and is a fairly common ornamental in the frozen tundra of Yankee-land.  ;D
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: WDH on May 14, 2007, 08:17:38 PM
A pendulant Norway Spruce ???
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: pasbuild on May 14, 2007, 09:39:18 PM
Both examples that I have seen of this tree have been yard trees, they may very well be an ornamental variety.
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: caz on May 15, 2007, 07:41:20 AM
I've got 6 in my yard and they do weep with great big cones waht ever they are
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: jon12345 on May 15, 2007, 09:27:22 PM
My vote is for Norway, see them a lot around here in some of the CCC plantations.
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: solodan on May 15, 2007, 11:58:52 PM
My first guess was Sitka spruce, but then I noticed the scales of the cones were different than a Sitka, so I will go with Brewers Spruce. Brewers Spruce is native to the Cascades. Brewers Spruce was planted in Scandanavia as an ornamental, so maybe this is one more thing that the Scandanavians brought to Wisconsin and Minnesota to remind them of home. They should have left the Lutefisk behind. :)
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: SwampDonkey on May 16, 2007, 03:43:46 AM
Pretty sure they are Norways. The branches droop on them here and they have big cones similar to Colorado blue spruce. We plant thousands of acres of them on private lands. I find they suffer from wind burn in winter quite bad when newly planted, but they grow fast on good sites.

Looks like a new crop of cones or pollen cones are emerging.  ;)
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: Phorester on May 16, 2007, 08:13:14 PM

Definitely a Norway spruce.  Maybe an ornamental cultivar, but definitely Norway spruce.
Title: Re: Unknown evergreen
Post by: WDH on May 16, 2007, 09:44:32 PM
Way to go guys.........I am Norway spruce challenged........