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Title: Ironwood
Post by: Ron Wenrich on March 21, 2003, 05:44:11 PM
Here's something you don't see everyday - the fruiting bodies of ironwood.

(https://forestryforum.com/images/3_10_03/ironwood1.jpg)


(https://forestryforum.com/images/3_10_03/ironwood2.jpg)


These are second cut black oak logs.  Two different logs.  Luckily, they didn't make it to the headsaw.  They are saw killers.  Potential damage of at least $4000.

Note:  there is no blue in these logs.  It must have had some type of coating on it.
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Tagerts_crossing on March 21, 2003, 10:33:49 PM
What is that in those logs?  some fence stuff ?
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Ron Wenrich on March 22, 2003, 02:50:18 AM
The top one looks to be part of a car spring leaf.  The bottom one is on some sort of post, maybe threaded.  It's about 3/8" steel.  The logs are about 16".

The logger said that an even bigger chunk of metal was in the butt log.  The tree formed a "Y" about 10' above the ground.  Speculation is a tree stand, but that's awful heavy metal for a tree stand.

The debarker found these and busted teeth.

Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: D._Frederick on March 22, 2003, 11:47:12 AM
Ron,
I was at the Wood Technology show this past week and there was at least 3 different company's that had machinary to run the logs through to check for metal. I don't know what the pay back would be, but with down time and blade cost, it may be something to look into.
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Sawyerfortyish on March 23, 2003, 05:37:03 AM
Being from N.J. (the steel tree state) I see this every day some of the things I have seen range from arrowheads and bullets to bycycles and barbecue grills. The worst is cement poured in a hollow cavity of the tree. I hit a 40 lb hunk and sawed12" in before I could get stopped  :o OUCH
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: woodmills1 on March 24, 2003, 02:21:37 AM
The worst I ever saw, or is that sawed :D, was an electrical box.  It was completly surrounded by tree.  However a local circle mill tells of finding an antique musket, and a firewood cutter showed me a 20 inch hammer he found
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Kevin_H. on March 24, 2003, 03:46:46 PM
'bout the worst thing I've hit was a screwdriver someone hammered into a tree...sure took the set right out of the band
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Kevin_H. on March 24, 2003, 03:48:08 PM
'bout the worst thing I've hit was a screwdriver someone hammered into a tree...sure took the set right out of the band
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Kevin_H. on March 24, 2003, 03:49:04 PM
ok how did that happen?
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 24, 2003, 03:58:49 PM
yeah, yeah, ya just wanted to be sure that we all read yer post ::) :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Kevin_H. on March 24, 2003, 04:17:03 PM
Well I do stutter a little bit, But I didnt think it affected my typing...But I didnt think it affected my typing... :o
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 24, 2003, 04:37:03 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Tom on March 24, 2003, 05:45:43 PM
Bout time to repost this picture again.
(https://forestryforum.com/images/YaBBImages/userpics/Tomsbladedogged.jpg)
 :-/
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 24, 2003, 05:50:55 PM
Mine Don't look like that. Mine still cuts, although, it makes rocking chair rockers. :o ::)
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: biziedizie on March 24, 2003, 05:52:00 PM
So Tom what did ya hit to make that happen? I'm still waiting for the day that I wreck a blade and when I do it better be a blade that the customer has to pay for!

    Steve
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Tom on March 24, 2003, 05:56:38 PM
click for the original post (https://forestryforum.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=sawmill;action=display;num=1027465302;start=0)     :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Minnesota_boy on March 24, 2003, 05:59:16 PM
Tom's blade looks like mine did when I ran it into the log clamp while I was carrying a board to the pile.  :D  I'm a slow learner, I've done it more than once. :o
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Tom on March 24, 2003, 06:08:24 PM
Minn Boy,

I think I suffer from ADD.  That's Attention Deficit Disorder.  It means that I can't keep my mind on my business and get distracted easily.  There is a name for it. I think they call it ADD or something like that.  Oh! I said that!  I'm getting confused. :-/
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: biziedizie on March 24, 2003, 06:10:21 PM
Yeppers cutting the dogs doesn't do a blade much good! I cut the dog and it's funny because it cut better afterwards, I still gotta take that blade in to find out why.
  My mill has a thing in front of it that won't let me whack the dogs and it works pretty good! Wish I installed it the right way before I cut the dog!

    Steve
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Jeff on March 24, 2003, 06:16:01 PM
What kinda thing does it have that lets you whack wood and not dogs?
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: chet on March 24, 2003, 06:23:27 PM
Dar ain't notting worse den showing off yur new mill to a bunch of buddies and wacking da dogs.   :'(   Told um I was trying to see if I could make dem jump, but they were'nt buying it.    ;D
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: biziedizie on March 24, 2003, 06:29:10 PM
Jeff right in front of the blade guide rollers there's a blade guide bumper. What it is is a metal rod that is in front of the roller and it drops below the blade about an inch so if your dogs are in the way the rod hits it before the blade does. Works great and saves the blade.


     Steve
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on March 24, 2003, 07:32:46 PM
Can't remember, does yer mill have power feed or hand feed. If power, how does it stop the carriage from traveling??  Sounds interesting??
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: biziedizie on March 24, 2003, 07:51:50 PM
I push mine but I would think that a power feed mill could have a set up that would kill everything if it got close to the dogs. It's nice to have on those days when the cell phone is ringing while your trying to do adjustments and after the call you go back to sawing but yet you have forgotten what you did and then bang you hit the dog!

  Steve
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Jason_WI on March 24, 2003, 11:53:59 PM
Tom,

Thats a strange looking blade profile you got there ;D Hardly any gullet and set might cause that blade to wander a bit ::)
Glass fence insulators are real tough to saw also. Almost as bad as horse shoes ;D

So far I've only hit a few nails and deck screws in two logs. And the occasional lazy log dog. I had a customer bring an oak log that had 5 distintive blue streaks on the butt end. My metal detector found 7 hot spots. I told them it would be real expensive for me to saw it into 4/4. I refused to cut it with my chainsaw for firewood.....

Jason




Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: dail_h on March 25, 2003, 05:19:05 AM
   YA JUST AIN'T LIVED TILL YA HIT SU :-[MPTIN LIKE A CANNON BALL, OR THE CARRIAG DOG ON A CIRCLE MILL----- :-[
Title: Re: Ironwood
Post by: Sawyerfortyish on March 25, 2003, 03:34:35 PM
I hit one of those flat metal bottle openers. Someone had set it down in the crotch of the tree when it was small and forgot it. The tree grew around and up about 8 ' up in the air. Anyway I hit it just right so that the teeth on the circle blade drug it out in the saw kurf. Man are those little things hard destroyed the saw teeth but the bottle opener still works :D