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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: flip on March 26, 2008, 07:43:56 AM

Title: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: flip on March 26, 2008, 07:43:56 AM
This is my second big tree out of the same 1/4 acre lot, the last one was a big RO, this is a nice 40+" WO blow over. 

This is an ominous sign :o...  Shouldn't there be a movie about this ??? ??? ::)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/whiteoak5.jpg)

Burried about 2' under the tree face down, made a nice impression in the dirt.

A little gut rot in the center but a lot of good stuff on the outside.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/whiteoak2.jpg)

I made John work a little, he needed some painting practice ;D

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/whiteoak3.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/whiteoak4.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/whiteoak1.jpg)

Where's a swinger when you need one :(
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: Dan_Shade on March 26, 2008, 08:04:44 AM
swinger?  quarter that thing with a chainsaw and get a pile of 16" + wide quartersawn boards!!!!
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: flip on March 26, 2008, 11:18:03 AM
Every time I see or get a log like this I pull up the old thread about "homebuilt slabber".  Finances have stalled the project for now but after the tax check comes back it may be a different story.
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: metalspinner on March 26, 2008, 01:37:53 PM
That's a nice one, flip! 8)

Yeah, the cemetaries around here have biggun's in it, too.  I should introduce myself to the groundskeeper. ;)
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Post by: roger 4400 on March 26, 2008, 02:34:55 PM
     What color will be the final coat??????????????   Very nice logs I,m jealous
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Post by: Tom on March 26, 2008, 02:42:30 PM
What's thehistory behind the cemetery sign?    ???
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: flip on March 26, 2008, 03:19:31 PM

Across the street is a very old church and grave yard for Ireland (city) locals.  There are a bunch of big old trees that have not been touched for eons and now they are starting to sucumb to nature.  The side of the street we are on is a 1/4 acre or less where they established a pet cemetary and there are probably a dozen or so head stones to puss the cat or rover the dog.  This particlar stone was sitting about 6 feet from the stump of the tree and just marked the dedication of the pet side of the cemetary.  The guy that has been hooking us up with trees from the property is on the board that oversees the church and grounds.  He also restores repairs old headstones in old cemetarys around our area, some predate the civil war.  There is an un written agreement with Shiloh that if we take a tree that Junie, our contact, gets some of the lumber for projects around the church. 
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Post by: MikeH on March 26, 2008, 05:38:24 PM
Very nice log. ;D
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Post by: thecfarm on March 26, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
Going to saw the logs there? Or what? That sounds like a good agreement to me.Hate to see those big ones go,but sometimes they do it for us.But when they are on the ground and on the way to a sawmill they sure do look good.
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Post by: getoverit on March 26, 2008, 06:03:27 PM
I wouldnt get too spooked about the monument unless you start seeing 2 red eyes lurking in the twilight darkness..
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Post by: JV on March 26, 2008, 06:46:33 PM
Yeah, but if one of those doggy headstones says Cujo, I would'nt go out there at night.   :D
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Post by: Bodger on March 26, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
Send some pictures of ya'll getting those in the back of the truck.
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Post by: metalspinner on March 26, 2008, 11:34:24 PM
QuoteI should introduce myself to the groundskeeper

Come to think of it,  we will all get introduced to him sooner or later... :'(
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: flip on March 27, 2008, 07:14:25 AM
Since the log trailer is not 100% finished yet our rollback wrecker is going to pick them up and dump them out at the farm.  Going to 1/4 it then QS all I can. 

MS,
Yup we all going to be tree fertilizer sooner or later. :)
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: sunriseseamless on March 29, 2008, 10:10:55 AM
This is obviously a newbie question.  Why do you paint the ends?  Does it help with checking?
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: Norm on March 29, 2008, 10:24:45 AM
Yes that's the reason it's done. Some woods are worse than others about checking on the ends. For me the worst is black cherry but all hardwoods benefit from a thick coating of anchorseal right after being felled.
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: Robert Long on March 29, 2008, 01:27:40 PM
Nice blue paint!       Do you plan to trim the log in beige?  :D :D

What would be nice to do is with a log like that, record all steps of it being felled, milled,dried, dressed,and the project it will become and post it for all of us to enjoy over the next 2 or 3 years.

What a project that would be! ;D

Robert
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: Woodchuck53 on March 31, 2008, 10:50:40 PM
Evening, fine log you have there. I have a contact with their old family cemetary that has turned me on to large red oak from time to time. Had to go out and find a saw to do the job. Routinely put my old 0-90G Stihl with 60" bar into to trunk after it is on the ground. Painting the ends has helped a lot and also rolling them over into my stock pond till I can get to them. Those look just the size to enjoy an afternoon of making saw dust. Have fun. Will want to see some of the finish projects also. Have a great day Chuck
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: flip on April 01, 2008, 09:13:24 AM
We put the smaller of the 2 logs on 4x4s yesterday evening in preparation to split it into 1/4s.  I don't know how to figure weight but it was everything the old backhoe had to pick it up and still be able to turn.  Will try and get the saw in it this weekend and take some pics.  I have a ton of RO that is quarter, rift and flat sawn, we are going to QS as much of this as we can.  Gotta love QSWO!
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: sunriseseamless on April 01, 2008, 05:32:05 PM
If I remember right, you can figure about 50 lbs/cuft for White Oak.  So follow the math and make sure I remember high school geometry. ::)
40" = 3.33 ft, so radius is 1.66 ft.  Pie R2 would make that 8.75 sq ft on the end ???.  If your log is 9' you'd have almost 80 cu ft.  Times 50#/cuft equals 3935 lbs.
Does two tons sound about right?  ???
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Post by: Furby on April 01, 2008, 09:14:28 PM
5026.56 pounds for a 9' x 40" Red Oak as per the toolbox on the left of your screen. :)
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: sunriseseamless on April 02, 2008, 05:16:28 PM
That was easy.  Who needs an easy button anyway? :)
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: flip on April 14, 2008, 10:16:02 AM
Here are a few pics. of the smaller log we worked up yesterday.  Since gas is so cheap ::) and my chains are real sharp ::) we decided to it the hard way.  I made one slice in the end and made a little hole for the jack, we started with a 2 1/2 ton but moved up to 12 ton.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/oaksplitting.jpg)

We got the one half on ready for the quarter cut and made a slight miscalculation.  The head was all the way up and we just barely cleared.  Had to trim slightly on the stop side with my sharp chainsaw ::)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/halfonmill.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/endshot.jpg)

Got some killer QS out of this WO.  Think it will go into the "Special Reserve" area for future projects.  Come to think of it, almost everything we cut is in the "Special Reserve" area, oh well.  My name is Phil and I'm a figured wood-aholic. :)
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: metalspinner on April 14, 2008, 04:22:07 PM
That split perfectly! 8) 8)

I should give that a try some time. :)
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: olyman on April 14, 2008, 08:00:43 PM
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=toolbox The original Wood Calculators<<<<         ;D ;D  there ya go
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: Furby on April 14, 2008, 08:42:49 PM
Hey Olyman, as I posted above, we have a calculator here in the tool box on the left side of your screen. :)
If I'm recalling correctly, and others can correct me if I'm wrong, the one you posted was actually stolen from here at one time.
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: flip on April 16, 2008, 07:33:52 AM
I made a vow to myself last night that I would not saw any more logs this size again, too much work and damage to mill and blades for too little recovery. 
The butt had a wierd spot on it and kinda cracked when we let it loose from the stump, here's why.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/trampmetal1.jpg)

Upon closer inspection, the tree did not die from age, storm or natural causes it got a case of lead poisioning.  According to growth rings the target was put in some where in the '70s.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/trampmetal2.jpg)

And after an hour of prying and cussing here is what we got out.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12489/trampmetal3.jpg)

The wood in this area is an obvious loss due to the stain and another good reason why stuff this size is not worth it unless you need fence lumber.  J U N K!!! >:(
Title: Re: Something about a cemetrary.
Post by: thecfarm on April 16, 2008, 08:08:37 AM
That is too bad.Sorry to hear of your bad luck.Now you know what to look for next time.
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Post by: leweee on April 16, 2008, 12:25:23 PM
flip....a metal detector takes a lot of the fustration  away. ::)