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Title: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: Hokiemill on August 01, 2008, 07:04:07 PM
A couple days ago the winch chain inside the green winch housing broke on my Lucas swingmill.  I called Baileys for a price on a replacement chain.  It was a fair price, but I would like to replace the chains in both winches as well as the longer chains that actually raise/lower the tracks and that starts to add up.  I thought the dimensions of an ansi 35 roller chain were the same but when I bought some I found that it wasn't exactly the same and wouldn't fit perfectly around the winch gear.

Anyone have any experience replacing the chains and any suitable alternative chains that can be bought in bulk at lower costs?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: olyman on August 01, 2008, 09:09:51 PM
would think it would be a common chain size---tractor supply--farm fleet, or any implement dealer----or burdens surplus out of s.dak---
Title: Re: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: brdmkr on August 01, 2008, 09:36:56 PM
Would it work just to replace the link or is the chain too worn for that?
Title: Re: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: beenthere on August 01, 2008, 11:03:57 PM
Any thought that it might be metric roller chain?
Title: Re: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: Hokiemill on August 02, 2008, 07:05:39 AM
I took dimensions off the existing chain and looked at all the chains in Grainger and had them order the #35 for me.  I'm starting to believe it's a metric chain and I can't find any local to compare to.  I don't know if I trust ordering some sight-unseen after I wasted money doing the same on the #35.  Yes, the chain has to be replaced and I'm pretty sure the other one does as well.  It is really rusted and I can see a couple other small cracks at some of the pins in the chain.  I was hoping someone else had already replaced theirs and could give me a size/model/etc. to order online.
Title: Re: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: Captain on August 02, 2008, 02:34:09 PM
06B Metric roller Chain is used on Peterson and is very close in size (by the eye) to #35.

How much do you need?  We've got some.

Captain
Title: Re: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: Hokiemill on August 02, 2008, 06:05:04 PM
Captain,

Your timing is good.  Through my research I had come to the conclusion that 06b might be the right answer.  The pitch is the same as #35, but the rollers are bigger and that's probably enough to make it fit.  A question for you - the links on my chain are straight-sided.  I think they refer to the profile of most links as "waisted" where they squeeze in a bit.  I'm guessing the straight sides make the links stronger.  If yours are waisted then I'm guessing they are strong enough for lifting a mill?  Price?
Title: Re: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: Captain on August 07, 2008, 07:24:14 AM
Randy, missed the post sorry.  The price is over $4 a foot and it is not treated.  Let me know if you need help.

Captain
Title: Re: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: Dan_Shade on August 07, 2008, 11:13:37 AM
just tossing an idea into the hat, how difficult is it to change the sprockets so you can use a regular chain?
Title: Re: Lucas winch chain replacement
Post by: Hokiemill on August 07, 2008, 03:24:55 PM
Dan - probably not too hard for someone who can weld, but I can't so I'm going to pursue chain options.  Captain, I go on vacation this upcoming week.  I'm going to go ahead and order the Lucas chain so I'll have an absolutely, positively workable answer when I get back, but I'll talk with you more when I return to get a long term answer.

Thanks for the help guys.  Maybe I'll come up with other solutions while drinking a margarita with my toes shoved in the sand  ;D