This oak (in the red oak family) seems to make a good nut crop every year - including last year. But this year looks to be a super bumper crop.
I don't know that I have ever seen acorns this thick, and these pictures are from lower limbs that are less than 10 feet off the ground. I can only guess what some of the upper limbs may look like.
Also, it helps that this tree is in a place where the squirrels and other vermin do not harass them.
Any guesses as to what kind of oak this is? (I cannot hide the leaves so that makes it a little easier)
(WDH and Dodgy Loner should just drop hints and not answer) :)
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Tricky. I'm leaving it and giving you an A for effort. ;)
Thanks. ;D
I will not abuse it.
I can appreciate its use in this instance, that's for sure. First complaint though and I'll have to code in a
whenever an [/img] appears. :)
Hmmm wouldn't be a Turkey Oak way up there, would it?
Quote from: Jeff on August 14, 2008, 12:17:49 AM
I can appreciate its use in this instance, that's for sure. First complaint though and I'll have to code in a
whenever an [/img] appears. :)
Understood.
Quote from: Tom on August 14, 2008, 12:21:15 AM
Hmmm wouldn't be a Turkey Oak way up there, would it?
Nope, not a turkey oak.
I should have mentioned that the acorns are still developing. They have a good 6 weeks of "filling out" left to go.
might be a cherry bark then. those acorns look like 500 to the lb types and I'm running out of something with deep sinus' like that.
Quote from: Tom on August 14, 2008, 12:39:20 AM
might be a cherry bark then. those acorns look like 500 to the lb types and I'm running out of something with deep sinus' like that.
You are on track. Red oak family, deep sinuses, ranging into southern areas.
Sure looks like a pin oak to me. Did not know they went that far south.
Also have never seen that many acorns or whatever on a tree. :D :D
I didn't think the leaves looked like a pin oak, but you might be right. I was going to make another WAG at Scarlet Oak. I don't know what the concentric ring nomenclature is all about on the acorn tip though.
If the leaves are smooth, might make it Scarlet oak, like Tom says.
Pin oak leaves are "hairy".
Nice pics, regardless.
I looked for the concentric rings, and found ...
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Ya'll are hitting all around it, but no.
Not a pin oak.
Not a scarlet oak.
Not a cherrybark oak.
Good Picture, Beenthere.
You been drinking the water up there, Lanier Lurker? :D
I could just start listing from the book, but I won't. I give up.
Ain't much water to drink up here.... :(
I will tell you that this is not one of the obscure species like Oglethorpe or Georgia oak.
.......or Shumard? :D
I 'spec you have to chew the lake to get anything out of it.
I've been tempted to take my metal detector with me to visit a friend in Nicholsen. No telling what kinds of little treasures can be found laying in the silt off of the end of those high and dry docks.
It looks like a plain old Red oak to me. Or at least that's what I'm used to as Red oak.
SeeSaw
I give up. You would have trouble selling that as anything other than a pin oak around here. I see a lot of those pin oaks mixed in with the quercus rubra here and the instant I saw those pictures I though it was pin oak.
Did not know there was any other tree in the red oak family that had leaves any where near those.
Well then, If its not Pin Oak my guess would be Shumard which is a red oak growing in your region.
I'de say southern red oak Q. falcata
Not a whole lot different that pin oak though, but I think pin has a smaller cap. But it doesn't range into Georgia.
Black Oak?
Jeff got it.
Quercus shumardii
A prized timber species from all accounts I have read. We have a few of them planted as ornamentals in the downtown Atlanta area around the capitol - which is where this tree is. For the Georgia folks, this tree is in front of the Archives building - which is across the interstate from the Capitol and looks like a giant tombstone.
Black oak was another good guess. The sun leaves on black oak can look at lot like these, but their acorns look different.
I protest, where is the Georgian contingency? Those leaves aren't the same in my dendro book. :D :D :D
Well the acorns certainly fit, but the leaves have me worried. ;D
HEY! JEFF WINS A 3 YEAR OLD WLL WORN FORESTRY FORUM HAT! YA HOO! :D
Tom, somehow I missed your suggestion of Shumard - - - that was earlier in the thread than Jeff's.
My apologies. ::)
I was on a strange computer at the time - so I will blame it on that.
And yes - if you can fight your way through the weeds that are growing in the rich silt of the lake bed I'll bet there are all kinds of treasures down there.
I missed Tom's too. Tom gets the well worn Hat. Tom, look in your closet. :)
OK!...... thanks!
I don't have to wear it backwards, do I?? :D
I didn't notice this thread until now. My wife and I eat at this steakhouse (http://www.shumardiissteakhouse.com/) in town frequently. Less frequently than we used to because it has been going downhill over the past year or so in terms of quality and quantity and even service.
It was good while it lasted. Anyway, when the temperature is right we like to sit outside in the veranda under the many Shumard Oaks and watch the birds and other wildlife doing their thing, oblivious to us humans. We have seen alot of different wildlife you wouldn't think out there. Owls, hawks, and of course the usual suspects i.e. squirrels birds and the occasional rhinocerous. No, that was elsewhere we saw the rhino. ::)
Quote from: SwampDonkey on August 14, 2008, 05:27:12 PM
I protest, where is the Georgian contingency?
Hey man, the Olympics are on!! ;D
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Hey man, the Olympics are on!! ;D
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And you can really tell it. I haven't been able to watch any of it here at work but I can tell many of you are. The posts are way down in numbers. The forum is my biggest form of entertainment over here. I'll be glad when all of you get back.
WDH, you pounding your coffee table too like Dodgy? ;D
I think the Georgians are out fighting the Russians....
Quote from: WDH on August 15, 2008, 01:08:56 AM
Quote from: SwampDonkey on August 14, 2008, 05:27:12 PM
I protest, where is the Georgian contingency?
Hey man, the Olympics are on!! ;D
Yep, I've had some terrible "Olympic hangovers" this week - including today.
Yes, the Russians have been keeping us busy lately, but at least we beat them in beach volleyball.
There's a few Shumard oaks planted in front of UGA's forestry school that always have a heavy crop of nuts. I think it's just because they're very happy where they are - plenty of water, nutrients, sunlight, and adoring forestry students.
LL,
I was up to 1:00 a.m. watching the gymnastics :). I am about plumb wore out :-\.
We watched too. First of the Olympics I have watched in a long while. I forget where it was back in the early 90s the judging was so attrocious I swore them off. It was happening last night too. Told my wife I couldn't stomach to watch those rigged games. I have been avoiding the Olympic thread in the General section for the very reason. i don't want to rain on anyone's parade.
I'm glad our girls persevered in the end, but if the judges could have stuck it to them they would have IMO. They were just too perfect in the end. Specially our Russian Texan who lives right down the highway from here. Good for them.
The Chinese girls are not even the age they have them down as especially the youngest one that looks to be 12 at best. She is 14 says the unnofficial grapevine and the fact that they are willling to lie just to get them in, the very peeps who are supposed to be setting the example for these young peopel makes me too sour about the whole deal. Liars and cheaters do more than tarnish the otherwise wonderful talent these amazing athletes have. I know I should be able to watch it and just deal with it, but I get too upset. Mistakes and differences of opinion are one thing but I have given up on there ever being a fair and honest core of people running the IOC.
Sorry for the rant. Shumards are very pretty trees.
Quote from: SwampDonkey on August 15, 2008, 05:41:24 AM
WDH, you pounding your coffee table too like Dodgy? ;D
SD,
I don't have a coffee table, but if I did, I suspect that I would pound on it from time to time :). I cheer for all the good athletes, North American or not ;D. Those gymnasts are simply amazing in their conditioning and balance. Incredible what those young women can do on a 4" wide beam and those young men can do on those rings. If I didn't see it, I would not believe it.
Track and Field coming up. I sure hope the track athletes show a little humility. Some of the men can be swaggerers :).
I've been waiting for track and field ever since this thing got started. Even though I was a swimmer/diver in my youth, Track and field was my calling. I wanted to put the shot so bad I could could hardly stand it. I even saved up and bought me one. I could high jump about 2 1/2 feet and pole vault about 5' and broad jump about 6 feet, with a good tailwind. Running was my real talent. That's part of what gpt me a bit of a success at baseball. If I bounced the ball off of the fence, I could get to first.
Football was probably my saving grace. I found that I could move mountains inside of 5 yards, and never tired inside of 10.
I sure admire those track and field guys. I'm getting all worked up over it now. 8) 8)