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General Forestry => Chainsaws => Topic started by: smith2bj on March 10, 2009, 12:20:06 PM

Title: stihl or jonsered
Post by: smith2bj on March 10, 2009, 12:20:06 PM
I post a thread about a month ago about getting a chainsaw for my wife.  Since then I have been looking at the jonsered saws.  Is there one that is comparable to the stihl 250 and how do the compare to stihl?  I have used one that is the 2171 and loved it, but I am not sure about the smaller saw with jonsered.
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: Cut4fun on March 10, 2009, 01:54:40 PM
2145 and a new 2245. 
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: chipsfly09 on March 10, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
I had a 2141 Jonsered for a while I think 40cc or so-- Really light, good throttle response, started good  18"bar and enough power to cut a larger piece of wood if necessary-- excellent trimming saw-- wish I still had it-- It grew legs and-- must have walked off- I replaced it with a 5100SDolmar (which I keep handcuffed to myself).

This said to express -- The short expreience I had with the little Jonsered was as good as any 40cc class saw I have used-- did not have it long enough to comment on maintainence issues-- it was used when I bought it-- I have had 026 stihl and have used the 260 pro as well -- (nothing wrong with those.)   Never used a 250 stihl and do not know about price as it compares to the Jonsered in the same class.  Good luck--
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: barbender on March 12, 2009, 01:44:34 AM
Stihl's model numbers are a real mystery to me, is there any rhyme or reason behind them? A Jonsered 2171 and husky 372 are both around 71cc, a 395 husky is around 95cc, and a stihl 250 is around 40cc??? I'm confused.
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: Rocky_J on March 12, 2009, 08:48:34 AM
The Stihl model numbers will usually give you the approximate engine size in cubic inches. The 025/ms250 is about 2.5 cubic inches. The 036/ms360 is about 3.6 cubic inches.

Now with the new models like the 361, 441, etc it is still close since the engines are still about the same size.
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: barbender on March 12, 2009, 11:18:38 AM
Aha! My small world makes a little more sense now :)Kind of odd that a German company is using inches still, mostly metric over there aren't they?
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: smith2bj on March 13, 2009, 11:44:58 AM
so i guess another question that i can ask is jonsered that much better of a saw then stihl or do you get what you pay for with a saw?
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: Rocky_J on March 13, 2009, 02:54:10 PM
Again, that question is not answerable as asked. "Is Ford better than Chevy?" It cannot be answered without specifying which models you're comparing.

But you want a simple answer with no real information. So I'll say 'yes'. Or maybe 'no'. It depends.  ::)
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: Cut4fun on March 13, 2009, 03:27:58 PM
Rocky, I think he wants the comparison between the MS250 and the Jred 2145 and 2245.

I know nothing about the 2 Jreds, but if they are bolt on cylinder with vertical split magnesium or aluminum case that is 1 up on the 025. The 025-250 is a plastic clamshell style that I despise and hate to work on.
My brother owns a 250 and likes it, but stihl was the only dealer in the small town.
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: John Bartley on March 13, 2009, 06:04:22 PM
Quote from: Cut4fun on March 13, 2009, 03:27:58 PMThe 025-250 is a plastic clamshell style that I despise and hate to work on.

The 025 and the MS250 are a clam-shell metal housing (horizontal split around the crankshaft) with the crankcase housing having its own assembly bolts (IIRC) and with that motor assembly setting into a poly housing that makes up the fuel and oil tank.

You "might" be thinking of the old Poulan/Husqy/Jonsered models that had a metal cylinder cast integrally with the upper half of a crankcase which then was bolted to a poly lower half of the crankcase which was also the fuel/oil tanks - they ran well until the plastic deformed and created a vacuum leak between the plastic lower and metal upper halves of the crankcase.

cheers

John
Title: Re: stihl or jonsered
Post by: Cut4fun on March 13, 2009, 11:35:58 PM
Nope I am talking about the clamshell design of the 170 180 210 230 250 290 310 390. Plastic cased with a clamshell thin alloy metal lower  clamping to the cylinder with other half of crank main area built in.