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Title: sycamore
Post by: bandmiller2 on September 02, 2009, 08:43:59 PM
I have never tried to mill sycamore is it worth the trouble,what is it good for.I can have a couple of 24to30" for the hauling 12' legnth.Frank C.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: CLL on September 02, 2009, 08:49:44 PM
In this weather you better cut it and nail it in the next few hours, or it will shell and warp big time.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: tyb525 on September 02, 2009, 08:52:51 PM
Quarter saw it, it is more stable that way and can have beautiful ray fleck.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: Magicman on September 02, 2009, 09:01:01 PM
I've sawed several jobs that were V-grooved and used as paneling on walls.  I've made clocks and jewelry boxes out of it.  Beautiful wood.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: James P. on September 02, 2009, 09:05:31 PM
Hi Frank , I did woodworking and never used it but it is said to dry well if quarter sawn , flat sawn tends to warp and cup but takes stain better than quartersawn. It handles like cherry but heats tooling sometimes like maple. Its useable. but not durable, used for furniture flooring, handles butcher blocks, carves easily and is a good turning wood. glues up well with all adhesives. I have had plenty of opportunities to get some sycamore but its in short firewood chunks and its hard splitting. They had a big protest save the sycamores here in Delaware. They are the sidewalk trees that tend to get in the way of dot projects. good luck at whatever you choose. you could always heat your home with it. especially if it wasn't a good idea.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: brdmkr on September 02, 2009, 09:35:22 PM
I sawed up a couple of logs.  QS has rays that are incredible.  Mine is AD and the QS is pretty stable.  I have not built anything with it, but it will be something that will show off the rays.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: ely on September 03, 2009, 08:50:48 AM
all thats said is true. also i leave a log or two laying in the pile and saw them later for some great looking spalt. i like to saw them thick if i am sawing green logs, my planer can take out alot of cup and warp. mostly i use em for paneling flooring and furniture. i did use some for a counter top in my outhouse, and i truely hated to cover it up once i had it installed. very pretty wood imo.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: WDH on September 03, 2009, 09:07:48 AM
If you use it in a project, it must be at equilibrium moisture with the in-use environment.  Otherwise as it gains or loses moisture, it is sure to twist and cup.  Don't ask me how I know this  :).

It would be gorgeous as paneling where the boards are free to move as individuals.  In a wide panel, it is trouble.

Chalk it all up to spiral grain.  Without these disabilities caused by the spiral grain, I am confident it would be one of the more popular woods.  There is a reason why there is no real solid commerial market for it except as pallet wood, crating, and dunnage.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: apm on September 03, 2009, 09:18:52 AM
Have your offbearer take two steps backwards, away from the mill. When flat sawn, the board will curl around far enough coming off the saw to knock him down if he stands in his regular place.  ;D As stated, it's beautiful when quartersawn. We've used it for small projects, jewelry boxes, etc. Sycamore is America's largest hardwood/deciduous tree.

Greg
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: metalspinner on September 03, 2009, 01:23:01 PM
 

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Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: Magicman on September 03, 2009, 01:29:55 PM
I like !!!  That's showing off just how pretty it can be.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: ARKANSAWYER on September 03, 2009, 03:04:05 PM

  Nope it is Junk.  Best to bring it down here and let me throw it in the holler out back.







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Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: DRB on September 03, 2009, 04:14:57 PM
Quarter sawn sycamore is really pretty, I think flat sawn a bit plain normally.  The trees grow big but they often hollow out badly.  I would go for it if I had a mill and was offered some.
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: bck on September 04, 2009, 07:02:11 PM
Check out this guitar. Looks like even the neck is sycamore, wonder how hard it is going to be to keep it straight  ?, cheap too  :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Santa-Cruz-H-13-All-Sycamore-Guitar-and-Case_W0QQitemZ390001598967QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item5acde821f7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: Ron Wenrich on September 04, 2009, 07:28:35 PM
When I first started working in this business, I worked with a guy from Jamestown, NY.  He was older and had talked to many of the oldtimers when he was younger.  There were lots of furniture makers up in the Buffalo area back around the turn of the century.  A lot of them came from Europe.

His story was that the better furniture had sycamore drawer sides and bottoms.  The reason is that sycamore is an oily wood, and the drawers wouldn't squeak.  They also used to veneer sycamore for berry boxes.

I've never seen too many problems with sycamore in my area.  I think a lot has to do with where you're at.  We've sold sycamore to a local mill that quarters it.  His prices start at $8/bf and go to $18 for 12"+ 16/4.  So, basically, its junk.   :D
Title: Re: sycamore
Post by: Chico on September 04, 2009, 09:10:12 PM
Nice guitar but it'd have to feed me before I paid that for it I have some pretty nice instruments and I don't have that much in all of them together ;D It's beautiful tho
Chico