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General Forestry => General Board => Topic started by: Texas Ranger on September 05, 2009, 10:01:28 AM

Title: Old Growth
Post by: Texas Ranger on September 05, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
Building some shelves for the wife, went to the local lumber yard and purchased some 1 x 12 Number 2 white pine boards.  When I started breaking them up for use, I noticed a distinct change in color in the wood, and took a closer look.

The board had 212 rings from edge to close to center, also had blue stain on out edge of board. 

Some where, some one, some how, is able to salvage some really old growth timber and provide some excellent wood in the process.

So, maybe there is some sanity out there, some where.
Title: Re: Old Growth
Post by: isawlogs on September 05, 2009, 12:37:44 PM

I would go see the guy in the yard and ask where they are getting there pine from  ;)
Title: Re: Old Growth
Post by: Gary_C on September 06, 2009, 11:33:41 PM
White pine in this part of the country has recently become next to worthless. Another logger I know called me to see where I was selling pine bolts. Seems he has some 30 inch white pine to cut and has sent some to a landscape company to be chipped. I told him I had no market for any bolts closer than about 400 miles away and they would not take white pine at all for any price.

About two weeks ago at the paper mill I saw a load of beautiful white pine logs that looked just like perfect cylinders between 24 and 30 inches in diameter and cut to 100 inch lengths. Most likely now fibers in paper. And they are worth about $10 per cord less than red pine. 
Title: Re: Old Growth
Post by: SwampDonkey on September 07, 2009, 04:24:24 AM
Doesn't look like anyone buying pine around here right now. For logs beenthere mentioned they were paying around $400/mbf and the treatment plant was only paying $293 or so for 16', 9" top mixed grades. So apparently the price must be so poor or not enough increase between grades that they don't waste time even grading the logs. A man is best holding onto his trees right now. But, in some regions in this province they would historically cut and sell even if they had to give timber away. Hard to understand. For the last 30 years or so, anyone of those scattered residual pine on a block was left to stand. We were approached at the marketing board about 10 years ago to organize a way to gather that scattered pine and deliver to a pine mill. First off the price was too low and second chasing wood like that will soon bury you. We never even considered it and never heard from them about it again to my knowledge. After the meeting they probably cogitated a bit over the situation and came to their senses. Not all them old scattered trees are perfect, darn few. I don't know when the weevil hit in this country but probably about the time , if you could age the tree at the damage point, where you start to notice the forks and crooks on the trees.
Title: Re: Old Growth
Post by: WDH on September 07, 2009, 08:16:20 AM
Wow, TR.

Now your shelves are as old as your are  :D.
Title: Re: Old Growth
Post by: Texas Ranger on September 07, 2009, 09:22:06 AM
DanG young whipper snapper. >:(
Title: Re: Old Growth
Post by: Dave Shepard on September 07, 2009, 09:36:56 AM
White pine around here typically has brought $100mbf for small/short, and $200 for 12'/12"tip and up delivered to the yard.
Title: Re: Old Growth
Post by: thedeeredude on September 09, 2009, 05:30:14 PM
Do you remember planting it during one of your internships? ;D
Title: Re: Old Growth
Post by: Jeff on September 09, 2009, 06:43:08 PM
Quote from: thedeeredude on September 09, 2009, 05:30:14 PM
Do you remember planting it during one of your internships? ;D

Oh, dats a good one. :D
Title: Re: Old Growth
Post by: WDH on September 09, 2009, 06:51:16 PM
Old is old, what can you say  ???.

If I was in Texas, I would insult you in person.  Since I am in Louisiana, it will have to wait  :).  I bet those ancient shelves look good and weathered, like the creator  ::).