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Title: (very) hard start
Post by: Beweller on October 21, 2009, 10:38:12 AM
All set to start work, with two saws ready, both acted as though the cylinders contained liquid.  The saws could not be "spun" and so would not start.  With the plug removed, the saws spun easily, and no liquid was ejected.  After many tries I got the smaller saw started.  Once started, it started normally on subsequent tries.  I ran through two tanks of gas.  After filling the third time, I started the saw, OK.  I went back to the cut, and once again could not pull the saw over fast enuf to start.  Again, it acted as though there was liquid in the cylinder.

These are saws I have used many times in the past, never with this difficulty.  There was no difference in the history of the saws since the last use.  Typically, the saws are used for a day or two, then set idle for two months.  I do not drain the gas.  I use 50:1 oil mixed at 37.5:1.  Both saws were topped with gas and chain oil before trying to start.  The temperature was about 50 degrees.  The saws were two different brands.

HELP!
Title: Re: (very) hard start
Post by: Al_Smith on October 21, 2009, 04:26:34 PM
Now this may really sound silly but here goes .On occasion the starter rope kind of becomes frayed and doesn't wind back up correctly .It sits for a tad bit then all of the sudden is about like rope starting a Mack truck . Pull the plug it rolls easy .

About three weeks ago give or take I had the same problem with a 281 Husky which nearly drove me nuts before it dawned on me to change the rope .

Like I said it really sounds dumb and had I not seen it with my own eyes I'd have never believed it .
Title: Re: (very) hard start
Post by: sablatnic on October 21, 2009, 05:43:51 PM
It could be the cord, as Al say, or it could be the pulley that has split. Which saw is it? Some are rather prone to this defect, especially some of the older Jonsereds.
Title: Re: (very) hard start
Post by: Beweller on October 21, 2009, 06:10:50 PM
One was a Stihl, the other an Echo.  Both behaved similarly.  Today, both saws behave normally.  The problem seems to have existed only when I needed the saws!
Title: Re: (very) hard start
Post by: beenthere on October 21, 2009, 07:26:12 PM
There ya have it.  8)

Glad you found the problem.  ;D
Title: Re: (very) hard start
Post by: Rocky_J on October 21, 2009, 07:30:55 PM
Perhaps the saws have 'Maynard G. Krebs syndrome'.  8)
Title: Re: (very) hard start
Post by: LorenB on October 22, 2009, 12:54:16 AM
Rocky,

Be careful, your seniority is showing.  How many FF members even know who Maynard G. Krebs was?  More will have heard of Gilligan. 

-- Loren
Title: Re: (very) hard start
Post by: Red 93 L1 #3383 on October 23, 2009, 07:45:18 PM
Quote from: Beweller on October 21, 2009, 06:10:50 PM
One was a Stihl, the other an Echo.  Both behaved similarly.  Today, both saws behave normally.  The problem seems to have existed only when I needed the saws!

Same thing happens when you take your vehicle to a mechanic.