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Title: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: tree-farmer on January 31, 2010, 08:21:59 AM
Does anyone have a good solution for a snow plow set up on a tractor? Have been using regular grading scrap which is ok on 4-5" stuff. When it get to a foot or better it just does not do that well. I have a Kubota L3400, it has a front bucket with a quick change latch on it. I think it will accept the Bob cat type attachments.
Would like to find a reasonably priced solution if anyone knows of anything or has had the same problem.
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: Chuck White on January 31, 2010, 09:41:41 AM
I would check with Kubota and see if they make a "power angle" snow plow attachment for your tractor/loader!

Those seem to be a very handy attachment, and the power angle helps you avoid a lot of back up, go ahead stuff while you're plowing!
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: zopi on January 31, 2010, 09:59:45 AM
I spent most of yesterday plowing snow with a Cat skid steer and hydraulic highway broom..messy but fun...

concur with the power angle suggestion..
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: Larry on January 31, 2010, 10:24:21 AM
If you can weld a "V" plow is easy to build for the FEL.  It took about 1/4 of the time that it took to build my blade for the 3-point.

Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: beenthere on January 31, 2010, 01:36:43 PM
I went directly to the front end, as the FEL is easy/quick to remove.


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Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: sprucebunny on January 31, 2010, 03:47:51 PM
I made this one from an old Fisher manual plow and made the quick attach plate to mount on a green tractor (790)
One of the disadvantages is that a plow full of snow can push the front end of the tractor sideways when the blade is at an extreme angle. Chains on the front tires would help with that.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11412/jmplowdoneOP.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: beenthere on January 31, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
SB
I sure like that color.  8) 8)

And you do good work.

If mine tends to push, I just reduce the angle a bit to get some balance with the side push.

(however, there is more side push when the blade is out on the loader arms).
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: isawlogs on January 31, 2010, 04:57:41 PM

Having the blade on the loader arms is nice , but can be real hard on the loader cylinders and arms if you do much plowing. It is better to have the plow attached to the frame .
Joan , this aint meant for you , I know how much pushing that plow does in a winter  ;)  The side pushing from the blade can do wonders to a loader ....  :o  They where not built for side action  ::)
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: Larry on January 31, 2010, 05:37:25 PM
Quote from: sprucebunny on January 31, 2010, 03:47:51 PM
One of the disadvantages is that a plow full of snow can push the front end of the tractor sideways when the blade is at an extreme angle.

That's why I made the "V" plow...I knew I didn't have near enough tractor to hold the line, even with a moderate angle in heavy wet snow.

Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: Tom on January 31, 2010, 05:44:52 PM
I'm not a snow person and have zero experience, but why don't backyard manufacturer's make snow blowers?   Don't they move the snow without all of the stresses of a blade?
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: Captain on January 31, 2010, 05:51:04 PM
I prefer Beethere's setup for the reasons Marcel stated.  Even my big 9000lb IR BL375 can get pushed sideways by a blade full of snow.

Captain
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: stonebroke on January 31, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: Tom on January 31, 2010, 05:44:52 PM
I'm not a snow person and have zero experience, but why don't backyard manufacturer's make snow blowers?   Don't they move the snow without all of the stresses of a blade?


Too slow Tom. You can push snow a whole lot faster then you can blow it.

Stonebroke
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: Dave Shepard on January 31, 2010, 06:35:37 PM
I have the bob-tach style coupler on my Kubota L-48, as well as aux. hydraulics on the front. I buy old Fisher plows and make a plate to go on the quick-tach. Usually have about $100 and 3 hours in them. I've gotten between $500 and $800 for them when I sell them. I've got another to make up, but I like sitting inside watching the snow come down more than welding in it. :)
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: tree-farmer on January 31, 2010, 07:04:10 PM
Thank you for all the feedback, you guys are better than google.
This gives me a lot to look into and consider.
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: Reddog on January 31, 2010, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: stonebroke on January 31, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: Tom on January 31, 2010, 05:44:52 PM
I'm not a snow person and have zero experience, but why don't backyard manufacturer's make snow blowers?   Don't they move the snow without all of the stresses of a blade?


Too slow Tom. You can push snow a whole lot faster then you can blow it.

Stonebroke

Blowers work great when you need to move a foot or more at a time.
Plus you have no banks too deal with.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13260/IMG_1458_%28Medium%29_%28Custom%29.JPG)
As does a large volume bucket.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13260/IMG_1493_%28Custom%29.JPG)
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: beenthere on January 31, 2010, 07:39:28 PM
Quote from: Larry on January 31, 2010, 05:37:25 PM
......

That's why I made the "V" plow...I knew I didn't have near enough tractor to hold the line, even with a moderate angle in heavy wet snow.
Larry
The V plow gets you through the first pass, then how do you push the snow back further to widen the path? Would think the side push would come into play then. So you have a pic of the V plow you made? Maybe a second pass isn't necessary.  :)

I made the wing plow to push snow further back, and that has been very satisfying.  8)
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: Larry on February 01, 2010, 07:28:46 AM
No picture...sold it when I moved to Arkansas.  Most time tryed to get by with one pass.  Of course that wouldn't work on a road where more width is needed.  If I wanted it wider, used the blade on the back.

What's a wing plow?  An attachment to the front?
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: thecfarm on February 01, 2010, 08:00:27 AM
Must differ on the snow blowing is slower.I have a Kubota BX 1800,18hp for that.No planing for the next storm for a place to put snow.Just blow what needs to be done,I just blew a seal in the tranny.So that tractor is done for a while.Out comes the big one.A 2120 Ford,40 hp.I cut off the quick detachment off the front of a truck and welded that on to a piece of flat stock and mounted that into the loader.I put another piece of flat stock on the back side of the loader too.I do have to get off and angle the blade by hand,but it moves real easy.I use to use it for the woods road before I moved here.By the looks of the plow someone else plowed wood with it.Good thing I kept it.But now I have to plan on future storms.Have to push the snow back more to make room for the next storm,Than all the snow up up the house goes to the other side of the driveway so we can see when someone comes.I really miss the snow blower.Still takes me 1½ hours to do it all.But I don't miss the snow blowing on me. Need to build a cab for it. I would much rather blow the snow than plow it.And with it being in the loader I can really push the snow back without getting close to a drop off.The loader sticks out 3 feet and the plow probably 2 feet.
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: stonebroke on February 01, 2010, 08:48:18 AM
Let me revise my previous statement , With a decent size tractor( 80 to 100 hp) Plowing is faster. With little tractors( 20 hp ) blowing is probably faster. They just don't have the weight and muscle to go fast plowing.

Stonebroke
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: beenthere on February 01, 2010, 10:41:32 AM
Quote from: Larry on February 01, 2010, 07:28:46 AM
No picture...sold it when I moved to Arkansas.  Most time tryed to get by with one pass.  Of course that wouldn't work on a road where more width is needed.  If I wanted it wider, used the blade on the back.

What's a wing plow?  An attachment to the front?

Wing plow, what I finished fabricating this winter, and it works great. Some more pics in my gallery. Also here:
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,40844.msg588649.html#msg588649

Short vid of the maiden test run (so going slow, but sure  :) )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4SJxqzm-hc
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: isawlogs on February 01, 2010, 05:19:19 PM

Going fast with a wing down, would be a quick and easy way of breaking things . ( these things are normaly part of tractor , )  :-\
Title: Re: Looking for advice on snow plow for tractor
Post by: Dave Shepard on February 01, 2010, 05:49:10 PM
I took a couple of pics of my friends setup. I do something similar, but I don't spring for the pre-made plate, I scrounge some scrap and make my own. ;) It works well, but I haven't asked him how well the rubber tracks do on ice. :D I know my tractor with chains is brutal on snow banks, I usually plow in 2 wheel drive.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14240/snowplow1.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14240/snowplow2.jpg)