How does the Efco 152 compare to the Husky 353 / Jonsered 2152 ? I see the specs are similar. I'm wondering about the construction and longevity. I know the 353/2152 are sort of a "semi-pro" saw. Is the 152 in the same field?
On cost the Efco beat the Husky by quite a bit. We have them on the website for $369 including shipping. $299 out the door here for customers with cash and a trade in.
Performance wise the 353 will out cut the 152 by a bit. The 152 and 353 are really pretty close. Both saws are geared towards a rancher/farmer/semi-pro type market. Expect neither to last forever as they both incorporate a lot of plastic, but the new 5 year warranty on Efco is something to consider. They are both good saws for the weekend warrior, landowner type individual that does a lot of thinning, softwood, light firewood. If you want to cut, big hardwoods all summer, consider a larger Pro saw.
I just sold a 152 to a guy to replace his 353. I let him try it for a week. He said the 152 was stronger and better on gas. He's happy, plus he saved $125.
Cool. Glad to hear that report/comparison.
Here is my 152 .It has 151 tanks of gas through it now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZggrhWNHI
This is my 346 OE, running the saw chain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y4NfD5cwvI
Have video of a 246, 5000 Partner and 5000 Redmax for comparison also.
Here are the times for the saws tested.
346 Husky-4.25
152 Efco-4.63
5000 P-4.80
5000 R-5.22
246 Husky-6.51
All saws are stock, no muffler mods. All running 7 tooth .325 rim and Windsor 58JL chain.
I am doing a long term test with the 152. Going for 1000 tanks of pro use, logging, pulp, and firewood.
Nice videos, Saw Nut. What type of wood were you cutting there?
How are you keeping track of tanks of fuel through the saw. I know if it were me, memory would never cut it. I'd have to have some system.
John Mc
I am cutting poplar in the video.
As for keeping count I bought a counter from Baileys and tied it to my gas jug. Number rolls for every click and goes back to 0 after 9999. Only 749 clicks to go. Been doing an update every 50 tanks on another site. Guess I will here as well.
151 tanks-0 issues. I am running it at the top of the recommended rpm range. Using a variety of mix oils and chain oils. Ran 3/8 chain for 30 plus tanks in the 55-90 tank range.
Here is the counter,
http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=15352&catID=155
I don't think the 152 is as close to a pro saw design as the 353 is (P&C only there), but I never used one..... ???
Quote from: saw_nut on June 02, 2010, 06:45:23 AM
Here are the times for the saws tested.
346 Husky-4.25
152 Efco-4.63
5000 P-4.80
5000 R-5.22
246 Husky-6.51
All saws are stock, no muffler mods. All running 7 tooth .325 rim and Windsor 58JL chain.
I am doing a long term test with the 152. Going for 1000 tanks of pro use, logging, pulp, and firewood.
Sorry to say, that comparison isn't worth much, unless you offer a lot more info on some of the saws, how the chain issue was handled (same brand and model isn't enough), and how the wood was.
Some really simple questions; What version of the 346 was used (45 or 50cc, and cat muffler or not?). Also, what version of the P5000 was used, and what is a Partner 5000R?
Well Troll, I know you read the post on the other site so you know that it was the same chain and same bar used on all the saws. Are you up to your old tricks or really serious? Under the 152 vid it clearly states "346 OE running the same chain". Under the 346 vid it states "5000 Redmax".
Anyway, here goes;
All saws are 100% stock. All videos were done in a 20 minute time frame so no great atmospheric changes. All saws have clean filters. All saws have 7 tooth .325 rims. All saws have the same brand of chain oil. All saws used the same fuel and mix. Ultramar high test gas. Ultramar two cycle mix. Mix ratio is 40:1. No cat mufflers on any saw. Wood was the same for all saws. Fresh cut poplar. All saws were given 5 warmup cuts in a second block of poplar before the timed cuts. Did I leave anything out? Oh yeh, I wore the same socks and underwear for all the cuts. Tried to make it as fair as possible. 8)
346 OE set at 14,200
152 set at 13,400
5000 Partner set at 14,000 (this is the original open port version and yes it is stronger than my Plus version)
5000 Redmax set at 13,800
246 set at 14,500
Satisfied Troll? :P
Quote from: saw_nut on June 02, 2010, 07:56:20 PM
Well Troll, I know you read the post on the other site so you know that it was the same chain and same bar used on all the saws. Are you up to your old tricks or really serious? Under the 152 vid it clearly states "346 OE running the same chain". Under the 346 vid it states "5000 Redmax".
Anyway, here goes;
All saws are 100% stock. All videos were done in a 20 minute time frame so no great atmospheric changes. All saws have clean filters. All saws have 7 tooth .325 rims. All saws have the same brand of chain oil. All saws used the same fuel and mix. Ultramar high test gas. Ultramar two cycle mix. Mix ratio is 40:1. No cat mufflers on any saw. Wood was the same for all saws. Fresh cut poplar. All saws were given 5 warmup cuts in a second block of poplar before the timed cuts. Did I leave anything out? Oh yeh, I wore the same socks and underwear for all the cuts. Tried to make it as fair as possible. 8)
346 OE set at 14,200
152 set at 13,400
5000 Partner set at 14,000 (this is the original open port version and yes it is stronger than my Plus version)
5000 Redmax set at 13,800
246 set at 14,500
Satisfied Troll? :P
My strongest stock 5000 is open port now days too. I have found some of them are to lean at 14K with the dinky carbs and like the 12.5k-13k range when tuned by ear and then checked.
Your testing looks good to me smiley_clapping I have even ran mine against a Dolmar 5100S and stock for stock with both being muffler modded the P 5000 was right on the heels of the 5100S. Was using 3/8 7T though.
smiley_hollywood_cool thanks for your time posting results.
Oh by the way I knew what 5000 R and 5000 P was LOL , I do the samething.
Troll sure doesn't like when those saws cut that close to each other in real life in a good test with a good operator. Steve
Quote from: saw_nut on June 02, 2010, 07:56:20 PM
Well Troll, I know you read the post on the other site so you know that it was the same chain and same bar used on all the saws. Are you up to your old tricks or really serious? Under the 152 vid it clearly states "346 OE running the same chain". Under the 346 vid it states "5000 Redmax".
Anyway, here goes;
All saws are 100% stock. All videos were done in a 20 minute time frame so no great atmospheric changes. All saws have clean filters. All saws have 7 tooth .325 rims. All saws have the same brand of chain oil. All saws used the same fuel and mix. Ultramar high test gas. Ultramar two cycle mix. Mix ratio is 40:1. No cat mufflers on any saw. Wood was the same for all saws. Fresh cut poplar. All saws were given 5 warmup cuts in a second block of poplar before the timed cuts. Did I leave anything out? Oh yeh, I wore the same socks and underwear for all the cuts. Tried to make it as fair as possible. 8)
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Sorry if I offended you, that was not my intent!
However, having read it is one thing, memoring it is another.......
...and there are lots of members here that is not on that other site!
Watching videos on a cell-phone dialup is something I have given up - too much frustration involved!
Anyway, thanks for clearing it up! ;)
PS; Actually, one thing remains to clear up, was it the
same chain on all saws? ;D
Quote from: ladylake on June 03, 2010, 06:05:20 AM
Troll sure doesn't like when those saws cut that close to each other in real life in a good test with a good operator. Steve
Those differences aren't small at all, in percent!
Generally, I don't care to do "formal" comparisons like that at all, as they just tell what happened in one log on one day - I do it only when somethings make me curious.
When done, it should be done right though, and it looks like he got it pretty close!
Your right on what the videos prove. They are just a small snapshot in time. My choice for making $ is the slowest of the lot. 10 hour day cutting pulp the 246 wins hands down.
And about the chain, I must confess. The only way that I could get the 346 to keep up was to run my best race chain on it. With the same chain as the other saws it came last. :o Sorry Troll could not help it. ;)
Am I correct that "346 OE" means the old edition, with the smaller engine (45cc ?)
Quote from: saw_nut on June 03, 2010, 12:53:39 PM
Your right on what the videos prove. They are just a small snapshot in time. My choice for making $ is the slowest of the lot. 10 hour day cutting pulp the 246 wins hands down.
And about the chain, I must confess. The only way that I could get the 346 to keep up was to run my best race chain on it. With the same chain as the other saws it came last. :o Sorry Troll could not help it. ;)
:D :D :D
Quote from: John Mc on June 03, 2010, 02:19:53 PM
Am I correct that "346 OE" means the old edition, with the smaller engine (45cc ?)
Yes.