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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: pineywoods on May 17, 2010, 11:20:11 PM

Title: stickers and more stickers
Post by: pineywoods on May 17, 2010, 11:20:11 PM
I think all sawyers hate making stickers. Most of us edge flitches on the mill and save the cut-off edges for stickers, cutting to length with skillsaw, chopsaw, etc. Tedious and not very productive. Recently got an order for several thousand 5 ft stickers to be cut from bug killed pine. Here's how we set up to mass produce them. Square up the log, then saw 1 inch through and through, width un-important, what ever the log will make. Then stand the boards on edge and clamp tightly. note the side boards stacked alongside.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14000/1037/sticker1.jpg)


Measure off 5 ft and 10 ft points and cut a 2  1/4 inch slot across the top of the boards. skillsaw works fine here.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14000/1037/sticker2.jpg)


Saw off the top of the boards in 1 inch increments, yeilding 30 stickers per pass


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14000/1037/sticker3.jpg)


Stack on pallets and band, 375 per pallet .


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14000/1037/sticker4.jpg)


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Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: stonebroke on May 18, 2010, 04:07:51 AM
Pretty slick

Stonebroke
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: customsawyer on May 18, 2010, 04:28:10 AM
"Stick" with it you will get-er-done. ;D
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: Chuck White on May 18, 2010, 05:26:36 AM
That's basically how we do it here, except we don't cut to length or band them.

Usually there will be a wagon or trailer on site and when we stack the lumber on it, we'll just leave a space between two of the piles and then we'll rip some out and put them in that gap/space.

We never actually received a sticker order, except for enough to sticker the job that we were doing at the time.
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: bandmiller2 on May 18, 2010, 06:12:55 AM
Rarely have I ever "made" stickers seems their a byproduct of edgeing and the lumber is sold the stickers stay.Found the best legnth to be 4',all stuck piles 4' wide.Also cut 6x6x4' dunage to go between the lifts so the forklift will handle them.Usally pine stickers, have a pile of pople for the real good stuff.Frank C.
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: pineywoods on May 20, 2010, 07:03:44 PM
Here's the first shipment, end result of 3 days of sawing on 2 mills. 20 bundles, somewhere around 8000 stickers. Now that's not 3 full days, had to take time out to make pallets, coffee breaks, nap breaks, etc. Bug killed pine is just about ideal, very very dry, straight logs with very little taper, almost no knots.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14000/987/sstickers.jpg)
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: metalspinner on May 20, 2010, 07:15:32 PM
I was gonna ask if wet pine would give you problems with mold.

The pine we cut last week already looks green here. ::)
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: pineywoods on May 20, 2010, 07:24:10 PM
Quote from: metalspinner on May 20, 2010, 07:15:32 PM
I was gonna ask if wet pine would give you problems with mold.

The pine we cut last week already looks green here. ::)

You betcha... This stuff was extreemly dry, been laying in the log yard almost a year. By the time a bug killed pine dies, there's almost no moisture left in the wood.
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: fishpharmer on May 20, 2010, 07:37:18 PM
Now that's a wack a stickers.
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: WDH on May 20, 2010, 09:43:17 PM
I like your stick-to-it-ivity   :D.
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: LeeB on May 20, 2010, 11:52:14 PM
how did you charge for that? by the stick I would suppose?
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: Radar67 on May 21, 2010, 01:23:12 AM
I made a few sticks like that when I first got my mill, cut them out of poplar and got 40ยข a piece for them.

Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: pineywoods on May 21, 2010, 10:23:18 AM
Quote from: LeeB on May 20, 2010, 11:52:14 PM
how did you charge for that? by the stick I would suppose?

probably by the stick, but maybe by the board foot. I got involved to help out another sawyer who had the logs, but bit off more than he had time to chew. Customer wanted them in a hurry. There's 2 commercial woodmizer operations within a couple of miles of me. We swap logs, lumber, saw time, blades, parts, whatever. All 3 of us same age, grew up together, we've helped each other since we were kids.
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: ljmathias on May 21, 2010, 02:48:09 PM
You could call it a whack of stickers, or if there for wooden discipline sticks for kids, maybe a stack of whackers...

sorry about that. ::)

Lj
Title: Re: stickers and more stickers
Post by: PC-Urban-Sawyer on May 21, 2010, 07:15:05 PM
Quote from: ljmathias on May 21, 2010, 02:48:09 PM
You could call it a whack of stickers, or if there for wooden discipline sticks for kids, maybe a stack of whackers...

sorry about that. ::)

Lj

Or even a whack of whackers...

But that's starting to sound an awfull lot like a Roger Miller song...

DanG it!  :D

Herb