Ok, so this EDITED BY ADMIN was trying to charge me $40 to ship a Olympyk 261 from MN to NV. I made a comment about him being an "ebayer" that tries to make money off us shipping...Just raise the freaking price of the darn saw...don't rip people off by over charging them on shipping. AH scrub dishonest people right off of the earth!!! >:( I would post the email chain, but I would probably get kicked off of the forum... >:(
Most auctions have the shipping price listed, bid accordingly. If not listed $40 is too much, more like $20. Steve
that is a little high for the actual shipping cost, but not a lot. i shipped a 10-10 from SE GA to NEB last week for $25, UPS standard ground. i have also sent a couple from here to oregon that cost $50 to ship, UPS standard ground. if the shipper is doing it right by using bubble wrap, a sturdy box and a good taping job, i wouldn't fuss too much for that charge. i just checked on the UPS site and duluth to las vegas, UPS standard ground for 19lbs in a 24x18x18 box, $250 insurance, is about $41. shipping to smaller towns will likely incur additional fuel and route charges.
Shipping a 12.5" by 12.5" by 1.5" maple cutting board that weighs 9.5 lbs from Michigan to Canada will $37 not counting and packaging costs.
I was going to get a 50 lb bag of millet seed shipped to me from Florida until I found out it cost $50 for shipping. I can see how it could cost $40 to send a saw by the time you packaged it and got it to a post office.
The nearest place for us to go ship a UPS package from here is a half hour drive. That adds almost 10 bucks in gas just to get the package to ups.
Depending on where he will ship the item from will add to the cost, too. Those quicky mail box stores tack on 15-20 %. I know they advertise that they have the same rates as the shipping counters at UPS, but that has not been my experience. Also, a large box through the post office will be double UPS counter rates. If you go cheap and send it Parcel Post, who knows when it will ever get to you. Did he buy a special box and extra bubble stuff? All of that adds up quick in the quicky ship places. Plus, they will try to "double box" it if it's insured for too much. I'm sure you would be very disappointed to receive a broken saw because of poor packaging.
Making several shipments a week for many years, it's been my experience that UPS ground from the service counter is the most affordable and dependable delivery out there.
Jeff,
Please tell me you didn't send the cutting board to Canada by UPS.
Nope. Its going USPS. I was only citing ups examples.
I shipped a 7900 with 20" to Oregon from Ohio and actual cost USPS was $55 with insurance.
I've also shipped smaller saws for $15-$25 and only a state away.
I just had a 371 delivered to me inside the same state and it was $22.
So $25 - $60 with insurance and tracking is about the going rate priority and depending on distance.
That doesn't sound out of line to me, but it depends on the weight, insurance value and if it's going to a residential address out in the boonies. UPS has really raised their rates in the last few years.
The shipping stores get a substantial rate discount, for example our discount on air shipments is 50% off the published rates because we ship so much.
It used to be a dollar a pound from the west coast or southern Florida [Miami ]to Ohio but I suppose the rates could have gone up a tad .
The last one I got sent was the 038 Mag from Orlando and it was 15-20 bucks or so .It goes mainly on weight but a complete saw with the bar would take up more space so that enters into the price too .
The long and short of it ,40 bucks is not out of line .
It does depend on the weight. I am not familiar with that Olympic model so I don't know if it's a big saw or small. I've shipped small (50cc) Huskys up and down the East coast for $25 or so. Last year I shipped an antique McCullough out to a guy in Washington and it ended up costing $67 to ship it! And that didn't count the $6 I had to pay for a box to ship it in.
I think you might want to research shipping charges a little before flying off the handle and accusing somebody of ripping you off. $10 over actual shipping cost is barely enough to cover shipping supplies. They don't carry those boxes across the country for free any more.
A lot of saws on Ebay have shipping from around $18 to $25 , I think quite a few are losing a buck or two on shipping. Steve
In case someone doesn't know, you can go to www.myups.com, register, and print UPS shipping labels there. Need to package your shipment, then weigh it and measure it, input this into "create a shipment" then print out the label for the box. It goes on your credit card. Then just give it to any UPS driver or any UPS drop off location. I just sent back my metal detector for warranty service from CT to Portland, OR, for $42. It was 23 pounds, 36x16x8 box, insured for $1400. Very convenient as the UPS man goes up and down my street every day and that day he brought me a box from Wood-Mizer. Before deciding to do this I phoned the "UPS Store" and the price was $65.
I've been shipping 27-pound and 52-pound parcels all over the USA for the past 21 years. FedEx Ground is the best... cheapest, safest and fastest... but if you are more than 10 miles from a FedEx shipping point, you have to figure costs of getting the parcel to them. USPS Parcel Post is the cheapest and they are the world's best batterers of boxes. Only the most securely packaged parcels can make it through USPS hands without damage. And USPS insurance claims are a guaranteed months-long process with payment of claims uncertain, regardless of damages and proof of damages...
UPS used to be the cheapest, but not any more. Still, I use them most often because they pick up at my door for only $5 extra, saving me a 120-mile round trip to their local terminal.
Most chainsaws will ship, securely, anywhere within the USA for about $30. Smaller saws less... larger saws more. A 70-pound 2-man Mac 5-49, complete, can ship from Oregon to New Mexico for about $65 by UPS Ground. If the shipper doesn't use found materials (box, tape and padding), they may incur another $6 in out-of-pocket costs for those. If they want to charge the buyer for their time in packaging, add that... reasonably...
Whenever I see an internet seller wanting $40 or more for shipping a regular-sized chainsaw, I slow down and bid accordingly... or just bypass the auction.
What one may fail to consider is the place of origin on the shipment. Its simply more expensive to ship from certain points in the country then is is from others. One can't base costs solely on personal past experience and apply it to everyone else.
i hate to quote myself, but...............
Quote from: nmurph on June 23, 2010, 10:23:52 AM
i just checked on the UPS site and duluth to las vegas, UPS standard ground for 19lbs in a 24x18x18 box, $250 insurance, is about $41. shipping to smaller towns will likely incur additional fuel and route charges.
Sometimes ya just gotta say HEY! Are ya listening? :)
Hey boobap this makes you sound like a whiner. If the shipping is stated what is the problem? If you want a certain saw for $200 and shipping is $50 then bid $150. If the shipping is $25 then bid $175. Simple. I can tell you haven't shipped many saws!
Quote from: Michael on June 28, 2010, 10:14:05 AM
Hey boobap this makes you sound like a whiner. If the shipping is stated what is the problem? If you want a certain saw for $200 and shipping is $50 then bid $150. If the shipping is $25 then bid $175. Simple. I can tell you haven't shipped many saws!
Thats exactly how I do it. I add shipping in as part of my total price and bid accordingly.
At one time I purchased quit a bit off of flea bay before they went all pay-pal which teed me off . I always asked for a shipping price before I bid .If they couldn't give me one I just didn't go any farther .Simple enough I would think .
I will say this though in several hundred transactions I only had about two stinkers because most were honest about things .At least they were several years back .
I've gotten stuff through members of the forums and not a one has been dishonest .
Whiner...anyways! go_away It was not ebay, it was craigslist, it was for a small saw, it was not very heavy, the bar was not very long, it was not very far away, I have shipped plenty of saws...does this spell it all out? Do you need/want any further clarification? I have shipped a Homelite Super 2 w/ a 14" bar across country (the great USA) for $16. The saw I was looking into was similar in weight and size!...any other anti-climatic name calling?
Enough. Enough from what ever direction its coming from.
I dont want to hear or see this crap. And by the way boobap, you started out this thread calling someone a name and I had to edit it. You've been on this forum long enough to know what I allow and don't allow. Michael, don't be adding to my stress level. Play nice.
sorry Jeff :-\ smiley_beertoast
I just paid $68.00 for S&H of a very large saw 20lbs with blade & chain from MI to RI via parcel post - which is much more than I have previously paid for shipping of a saw - but when the package arrived I saw that the shipper had paid $57 - leaving $ 11 for handling. Seemed fair to me.
Ed
The other thing that I see which jacks the price up is shipping the bar. If you walk into the UPS store and ask them to box and ship a 15 pound saw with a 28 inch bar, your looking at $50 easy.
Lately Ive been double boxing the bigger saws that Ive shipped through the Post Office, but I have not been using parcel post instead opting for the priority rate which is 10-15% higher. If I have to put a bar in the box it seems like it doubles the cost more from size than weight. I guess I could ship in two packages but have not as of yet.
Ive also shipped internationally through the Post Office, which was an older Husky gas tank to Australia with my cost at $65.
i shipped a stihl ms660 and a 32" bar and chain from TN to MO and charged 60 bucks for the shiping. i had to use 2 boxes and the ups drop is 30 min one way from my house i put 1200 dollars of ins on the power head and left the 100 on the bar and chain. the powerhead cost me 39 to ship and the bar and chain was 18. so at 12 miles to the gallon do you think 3 dollars coverd my fuel and time to ship the saw. not including box ,tape,packing,material. so i dont think 40 is out of line. ill be charging more next time now that i find im losing a few bucks to ship. i think packaging and fuel should be part of the cost of shipping. some one has to pay for it and why should it be the seller?
I just shipped a 3120 PHO to WV, state right next door. USPS priority with tracking and insurance was $57. Shipped OEM plastic 372 tank very light USPS priority, insurance and tracking to Oregon was $16. Rates have went up and are going up again I hear. They have ask for another rate increase.
One option might be the flat rate boxes from the post office .I've made and shipped custom make tools all over the USA for just 5-7 bucks .Some went to Canada but that's a different rate ,still cheap though .
With the large box you might be able to stuff a small saw in it .
I would expect the charge to be the actual shipping cost - no more, no less!
"Handling and packing" I would expect to be built into the price of the object itself, unless I was told otherwise.
As far as I would be concerned shipping costs include the cost of packing materials, the cost of getting the package to the shipper, and the value of the time taken to accomplish those things. You can't build that into the price of the saw until you know where the saw is going. And if the saw is in an auction, you'd have to set a high reserve in order to build it in toi the price of the saw. It has to be included in the shipping costs. So what if the guy across town buys your saw ona buy it now price and then picks it up? If you built it into the saw, you charged him to much. Its gotta be in the shipping.