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Title: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Slingshot on September 23, 2010, 11:35:49 PM
   I built a 4-1/2 foot extension for my LT-30 so I can saw up to 21 feet.  Built it with everything I
already had except a 9 foot section of 1 inch cold rolled steel for the rails and a few bolts. The steel
supplier here didn't stock the 4X8 inch tubing I needed for the main beam and I would have had to
pay over $200.00 for a special order 20 foot piece so I welded 2 pieces of 4 inch angle and made a
4X8 inch channel. I rigged up a jig for drilling true centered holes in the mill rails and new bar for rails
and used 5/16 grade 5 bolts with head removed for allignment pins. There are pictures of the way I
connected the extension. It is all bolted on so it can be removed and the mill returned to original
except for 5 holes I driled at the end of main beam. 4 to re-locate small bunk and 1 for a support
bracket. And I welded 2 short pieces of angle inside main beam for drawing the sections together.

Here is the almost finished job.

I I relocated the small bunk to the end of main beam and added another bunk in it's place.



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03306.JPG)

The new addition is supported by the mill bed so it won't have to be removed for moving the mill or
transporting


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03308.JPG)



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03309.JPG)



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The mill head rolls onto the new rails like on the original


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03312.JPG)



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03316.JPG)

The jig I used to hold bit for driling holes for pins


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03229.JPG)



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(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03274.JPG)

angles inside beam with nuts welded on back side for 5/8 inch bolts


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03245.JPG)

steel plate goes inside and bolted for support


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03248.JPG)

5/8 inch bolts draws it up tight


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03254.JPG)



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03264.JPG)



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03298.JPG)





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Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: redbeard on September 24, 2010, 01:38:26 AM
Very nice fabrication work, That wasn't your first rodeo, Good job!
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Coon on September 24, 2010, 01:53:31 AM
That job looks top notch mate.  ;D  I reckon she'll do the trick.  :D
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: fishpharmer on September 24, 2010, 03:34:13 AM
Very nicely done slingshot.  Good of you to share iit.

I see hydraulics in your future if you don't already  have some on your mill.
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Chuck White on September 24, 2010, 05:31:07 AM
Very nice job.  Professional all the way!
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: fred in montana on September 24, 2010, 05:59:20 AM
Very impressive
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on September 24, 2010, 06:41:19 AM
Takes me 2 whole sticks to weld on a new fender mount and i'm not posting pictures of that  :( :(  .  Couldn't tell for a while in the pictures where the new work was until I noticed the new orange vs. the old orange.  Outstanding job!
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: barbender on September 24, 2010, 06:44:36 AM
Top notch all the way!
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Slingshot on September 24, 2010, 09:27:52 AM

Thanks for the comments. Kinda fun building it. I'm thinking of still finding a section of the
4X8 rectangular tubing like the main beam and using it where I used the fabricated Channel
which can be unbolted and replaced. Then use the 4X8 channel section and make a stand-alone,
  bolt-on extension for logs to 24 feet if the need arises.
    Here is a picture of the addition with primer. I removed the jack stand and bolted the new
section where it was bolted on. I will weld on a plate to bolt on the jack stand where it is in this
picture and another at the end for a screw jack.

 

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03299.JPG)

 

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/18700/3000/DSC03267.JPG)


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Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: fishpharmer on September 24, 2010, 09:44:22 AM
I like that idea. 

What about hydraulics?
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: pineywoods on September 24, 2010, 09:55:09 AM
Very nice, well thought out. I like the jig. I've thought about making a 12 footer, but thinkin about it as far as I ever got.
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Bro. Noble on September 24, 2010, 10:44:59 AM
My hat is off to you 8)

I admire top craftmanship of all kinds :)
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Burlkraft on September 24, 2010, 01:58:15 PM
Great Job!    8) 8)
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: isawlogs on September 24, 2010, 02:52:48 PM

Good job , well done  :)
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: StephenRice on September 24, 2010, 04:10:22 PM
Very nice work!
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Jim_Rogers on September 25, 2010, 09:45:50 AM
Charles:

I have a six foot bed extension that I bought from WM before they invented the pin set up to line up the two sections.

Would you rent that drill holder to me so that I could drill mine out?

I've talked to WM Maine about getting the pins but I didn't have a method to drill the holes.

I would pay for the shipping from you to me, rent and sent it back to you when done.....
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Slingshot on September 25, 2010, 11:40:53 AM
   Jim Rogers; I'll be glad to let you have this drilling jig. But no renting it. I made it from parts I had
laying around and don't have anything invested in it. The tubing is aircraft aluminum that fits snugly
on the 1 inch rails and built up inside with spacers and washers with smaller holes than regular hardware
washers. Just something to hold the drill bit on a level plane with the rail. PM me or E-mail to get an
address and I will send it to you. You don't need to send  it back. I don't know what size pins Woodmizer
uses but this jig is set up for 5/16. I used 5/16 grade 5 bolts, cut the head off and cut to length. If you
need for larger diameter pins you can drill the washers to fit. The holes were 1/4 inch so I drilled a 1/4 inch
hole to start then drilled the washers to 5/16 with a drill press. I also used a center punch through the
jig before drilling.

 

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Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Magicman on September 25, 2010, 12:19:06 PM
And the spirit of the FF is very much alive and well.  Congratulations on your project and your thoughtfulness to provide others with the details of your craftsmanship, and willingness to help others.   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 02, 2010, 11:38:36 AM
I received the jig in the mail the other day, while I was away in VT.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, very much.
I opened it yesterday, and showed it to my friend this morning.

We should be able to use this to improve my alignment of my 6' bed extension to the sawmill frame, once and for all.

I plan on getting some bolts and several bits just in case one bit doesn't do the whole job.

What length bolt should I get and what depth hole did you drill in each?

I have it all bolted up right now, but in a week or so, I have to go do a portable sawing job on site, and my thoughts were to bore the holds and prepare the bolts before I put it all back together again, with photos of course.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Slingshot on October 02, 2010, 05:05:26 PM

   Jim, you're welcome. Glad you liked the system enough to want to use it. That is the only
way I could think up to drill a straight hole in the center of the rails already welded onto
the saw.
   As I stated, the jig is drilled for 5/16 bolts and I used a 5/16 diameter center punch through
the jig to make it easier to center the bit for starting. (picture in post above) The grade 5 bolts are tough, grade 8 even tougher, and I think plenty strong for this use. Bolts 3 or 3&1/2 inch long will give you a 2 inch pin
after cutting the head and threads off, and I drilled the holes 1 inch, or a little less, deep.


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Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 02, 2010, 06:26:26 PM
Thanks for listing the sizes and depth of the hole.....
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: pineywoods on November 15, 2010, 08:21:16 PM
Slingshot, you just solved a real sticky problem for me. Friend of mine has an LT40 super with a 6 ft bed extension. He has never been able to keep the extension aligned to the mill. Big long heavy logs and a large forklift keep shifting things. I had thought of alignment pins, but never could figure out a way to drill the holes accurately. You did, and I copied your jig. Thanks. Couldn't find a piece of tubing with exactly 1 inch bore, so I chucked a smaller piece in the lathe and bored it out to 1 inch + .001. I pressed a 1.5 inch long solid metal plug in one end and drilled that out to 3/8. Cut the slot with a milling machine. OK, it's way overbuilt, like you, I used what I had handy. here's some pics



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14000/1037/jig2.jpg)


and the end result


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14000/1037/jig1.jpg)



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14000/1037/jig3.jpg)

pins are made from 3/8 grade 5 bolts..
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Jasperfield on November 15, 2010, 08:43:56 PM
Slingshot,

If you hadn't told us different, and posted the photo's, I'd say Wood-Mizer built that extension.

Very impressive work!
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: bandmiller2 on November 15, 2010, 09:31:02 PM
Backyard engineers are what built this country,a hearty well done slingshot.Frank C.
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Slingshot on November 16, 2010, 08:58:50 AM

Thanks for the comments.

Sturdy little jig you built, pineywoods.

Maybe Woodmizer could come up with something like that to include
with the sale of extensions to owners of older mills?



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Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Jasperfield on November 16, 2010, 10:35:06 PM
I'd bet money that copies of your photographs are lying on somebody's desk up there.
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: pineywoods on November 16, 2010, 10:57:40 PM
I drilled and pinned 2 mills and one extension today. Worked like a charm. Thanks again slingshot. Now if I could just rake up the gumption to copy your extension. I'd like to have a 10 footer.
Title: Re: Pictures of my LT-30 with extension I built for sawing 21' logs
Post by: Slingshot on November 16, 2010, 11:38:19 PM

    Just go for it. I took the outrigger stand off and used the mounting plate to bolt
up the extension beam and then moved the stand to the new extension. It can all
be unbolted and taken off. The outer beam I used was a light pole salvaged years
ago from a service station. It was square and had a little taper to it. Worked out fine.
The part I used was about 4 1/2 inches and tapered to 3 1/2.
       I like working with steel, went to a vocational school several years ago for a
  welding course. I have a big Miller 250 stick welder and 2 smaller ones and a wire feed
welder and I bought my oxy-acetelene tanks instead of renting. (paid off
as I have had them for over 20 years.) They are exchanged so are kept up to date.


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