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Title: white deer
Post by: Texas Ranger on December 23, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/video/flv/generic.html?s=inwi10s22a3q81f
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: Burlkraft on December 23, 2010, 11:35:25 AM
Thanks TR  8)

I have seen white deer up north.

Mostly you see them in people's yards because they do feed them.

It's really strange to see them in the woods.

They are beautiful  ;)
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: fishpharmer on December 23, 2010, 11:53:59 AM
Some white deer must have moved south for the winter.  I have seen some that were harvested.

Thanks TR.
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: ErikC on December 23, 2010, 12:44:02 PM
 There has been a strain of white deer in Hayfork valley as long as I can remember. One or two at a time, but certainly not the same one the whole time. They stay right around town most of the time, but this summer one made her way out toward my place for a while. They sure jump out at you amidst a herd of brown ones :D
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: CX3 on December 25, 2010, 11:43:26 AM
I know of one pretty large farm that I used to hunt there was always a white deer killed there.  Sometimes two or three a year.  I saw three of them, two at one time.  It was really neat, and to think albinos could just pop up in any deer herd.  Beautiful animal. Brown ones too.
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: tyb525 on December 25, 2010, 11:57:08 AM
Technically they aren't Albino. White-tailed deer have a recessive gene for "leucism", which apparently is different from albinoism.

Here's an article (it has some good info, despite that fast that it's from an animal advocacy group).

http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/2008/12/the-white-deer-at-the-seneca-army-depot/
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: ErikC on December 25, 2010, 01:20:10 PM
 That's right about them not always being albino. But there could be albino deer as well, they are pretty easy to tell if you can see the eyes. Albino deer usually have red or pink eyes. The species here are Columbian Blacktail, but they must have the same condition as those in Tye's article.
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: Chuck White on December 25, 2010, 01:32:25 PM
There are a few of them about 15 miles from here.

They stay pretty-much in the woods right behind a few houses and it seems no one bothers them.

When we go by, we don't always see them, but we see them once in a while.

As far as I know, they are fair game just as any other deer here in NY, but I couldn't bring myself to shoot one.

It's not like there are lots of them.

A rare sight to behold.
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: treefarmer87 on December 25, 2010, 01:46:45 PM
my friend has a big albino doe in his freezer waiting to be mounted
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: CX3 on December 25, 2010, 11:08:54 PM
I have also heard that they are not really albinos.  But the guy in the video said they dont have to have pink eyes to be true albinos???
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: tyb525 on December 26, 2010, 10:40:45 AM
"Leucism is a condition that results in an absence of cells capable of making pigment. That condition turns their coats white instead of the usual brown color. They are not albinos. In albinism cells fail to produce melanin, whereas with leucism there is total cellular pigmentation failure."

I thought they had to have pink eyes to be true albino. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: white deer
Post by: Ianab on December 26, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
The pink eyes is usually the give-away that indicates a true albino, as opposed to an animal that's Leucistic.

Both are related to loss of pigment, but via a different mutation that shows slightly different effects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucism)

Ian