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Title: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: pnyberg on December 28, 2010, 04:51:30 PM
Given my posting history, this is going to surprise some people, and perhaps disappoint a few, but I find that I really don't have much to say.  After having spent countless hours scouring the FF archives for every bit of information I could get, I've not run into much that I hadn't learned to anticipate.  Ho Hum, it's all old already.  :)

I launched the business as a 'weekends only' operation in January of last year.  My first job came in March.  Since then I've worked as a sawyer on 43 days, setting up my mill in about 25 different locations.  I've done three small jobs at home, which I didn't expect to do at all.  That's more work than I had anticipated, so my income is higher that projected, but so are my expenses. 

I think that from an IRS perspective I'm in the red by a few thousand for the year.  On a cash flow basis, I think I'm closer to break even.  Since I had no customers for the first two months of the year, and I had a bunch of one-time start-up expenses, I'm pretty satisfied with this. 

Some additional random thoughts:


As I mentioned in a prior post, this year's results have been good enough to allow me to take the plunge and go full time next year.  This is not a 'bet the ranch' type decision.  If I never had another sawmill customer, my mortgage payments would not be in jeaopary, though if I'm not reasonably successful, my standard of living (measured in $) would suffer at the margins.  But obviously, I'm cautiously optimistic. 

Wishing everyone a happy new year...

--Peter
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: old joe on December 28, 2010, 06:36:39 PM
Peter, I like your style...conservatively optomistic.  Good luck.

Joe
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: Cedarman on December 28, 2010, 07:32:54 PM
Peter,  good post.  I think you're adapability and planning are serving you well.
I hope 2011 is even better for you.
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: Captain on December 28, 2010, 08:03:29 PM
Congrats on your first year successes and learnings Peter.

Captain
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: Brucer on December 29, 2010, 02:21:22 AM
I lost money (on paper) my first year in business. I actually had a bit of money left in the bank -- it was depreciation that gave me a loss. After that I've shown a profit every year.

I found that no one method of advertising brings in everybody. Word of mouth is good (and cheap), being visible when you work is good (and cheap). Business cards are good (and cheap if you print your own), but you need a reason to give them out. It didn't come easy at first, but I got pretty good at bringing up the topic of my new business. My FF web site has generated a few inquiries, but only one job. Mind you, that one job generated more income than my previous best year in business. :).

Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: weisyboy on December 29, 2010, 05:21:13 AM
good job mate.

i have been lucky to be able to start of small, verry small and slowly grow and expand my business, it has worked well and we now rarely do the things i started doing.

good luck with going full time next year.
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: bandmiller2 on December 29, 2010, 06:12:06 AM
Peter,to do as well as you have in the worst of times is something to be proud of.Frank C.
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: Meadows Miller on December 29, 2010, 06:46:20 AM
Gday

Top Job Peter  ;) ;D 8) 8)  don't worry about it not sounding like your going great guns with it All good things take time Mate  ;) And remember you only worked the mill for 43 days  ;) And its good it has given You the the figures to bite the bullet and go full time next year which Im thinking will be a good one for You  ;) ;D ;D 8) 8)  like Carl said start small one step at a time and it will not be long till you are where you want to be with it Mate  ;) ;D 8) 8)

Regards Chris
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: flibob on December 29, 2010, 12:00:52 PM
Nice post you are well organized and ambitious.

I find that wearing my WM ball cap when I go to gets leads from people who are looking for a sawyer.
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on December 29, 2010, 03:33:10 PM
Pretty good in my book for first year just on weekends. 8) 8)
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: LAZERDAN on December 29, 2010, 06:35:47 PM
If it's worth anything I like reading you posts.  Somehow I knew it would be a good documentary.  Did you ever think of you-tube?   I should check out your website before posting this.  Keep us updated !                       Lazerdan
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: Magicman on December 31, 2010, 09:19:52 PM
Thanks for your "lay it on the line" thread Peter.  I too have enjoyed watching your progress and you overcoming your growing pains.  You are a planner, a listener, and a thinker and your business shows it. 

Here's wishing you the best for 2011.   smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: woodmills1 on January 03, 2011, 08:28:03 PM
I would love to post my real numbers here
ifin ya read back I come very close to doing that

lets just say pny keep doing it
I started much like you

and will say this year of 11 sees 2010 being 11grand higher than last

wooden it be nice
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: jmmy6767 on January 03, 2011, 10:25:00 PM
Thanks for the post.   Looks like you have a good thing going and I hope itdoes nothing but get better.   I just went through your webiste also.   Very well done.   Good luck in the future.     Jimmy    Ps.  how do you like that mill?   Easy to operate? quality of lumber it turns out for you?   
Title: Re: New Portable Sawmill Business Year End Report
Post by: pnyberg on January 04, 2011, 06:32:32 AM
Quote from: jmmy6767 on January 03, 2011, 10:25:00 PM
Ps.  how do you like that mill?   Easy to operate? quality of lumber it turns out for you?   

The mill has given me no cause for complaint.  The command control station and Accuset set works make the sawyer's life pretty easy.  These options were good investments.  Any problems with lumber quality are the fault of either the log or the sawyer, not the mill.

--Peter