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Title: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: jackganssle on September 09, 2011, 10:27:00 AM
Does anyone spray Anchorseal? I wonder if it would go through a sprayer as it's so thick. But spraying would be a lot easier than using a brush.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: submarinesailor on September 09, 2011, 10:31:16 AM
Contract Anchorseal directly.  They will be more than happy to talk with you about this.  I have spoken with them several time at the Richmond show about this very thing.  They will tell you exactly what tip size to use - I keep forgetting, that's why I have asked about it several times.

Bruce
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: scsmith42 on September 09, 2011, 10:31:44 AM
Jack, I spray it and would not want to apply it any other way.  U.S. Coatings sells a backpack sprayer specifically designed for this application.  Basically it is your typical SOLO backpack but with a special nozzle.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: DR Buck on September 09, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
I have and ocassionally use the UC backpack sprayer.   It's fast, but unless your doing a lot of logs all the time, it may not be the best investment.   

I mostly use a paint roller.    You can pick up a cheap roller and one of thiose bucket roller screens for a couple bucks at one of the box stores. 

I buy the clear Anchor Seal and put a small amount in an empty bucket then mix in a small amount of latex paint to color it.   I use the roller to apply it to the customer logs.    This way I can end coat a different color for species or customers to help identify the logs.  Using the clear and doing this keeps me from having to buy a large amount of coating of different colors.

I find this much more efficient than the backpack sprayer for my operation.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: Paper Maker on September 10, 2011, 12:21:57 AM
   I've tried spraying it through a garden sprayer. It would only spray a straight stream. It wouldn't spray a fan stream at all. If you could get the right tip and sprayer it would probably be a good idea. If you find something at a reasonable price I would like to hear about it.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: DR Buck on September 10, 2011, 08:01:38 AM
Quote from: Paper Maker on September 10, 2011, 12:21:57 AM
   I've tried spraying it through a garden sprayer. It would only spray a straight stream. It wouldn't spray a fan stream at all. If you could get the right tip and sprayer it would probably be a good idea. If you find something at a reasonable price I would like to hear about it.


You need a higher pressure to get it to spray.  That's why the backpack sprayer is used.    UC Coatings sells the back sprayer with a "special" nozzel to get it to fan out.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: WoodMiller on September 10, 2011, 08:18:19 AM
If you only have a dozen logs or so, it's cheap and fast to use a roller - just toss the $1.50 roller cover and no cleanup time involved.  UC also sells/sold a slide sprayer that you can use - looks like a bicycle pump.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: chevytaHOE5674 on September 10, 2011, 09:17:23 AM
Where I work we have a gas pump that sits on top of a 55 gallon drum of anchorseal and we spray it via that. Works good if the nozzle is nice and clean, if it gets a little dirt or gunk in it then it won't spray worth a darn.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: backwoods sawyer on September 10, 2011, 03:43:42 PM
Those old water filled fire extinguishers that you pump up work ok, but there is more waist from dripping off the ends of the beam, and they are not all that accurate so you may have to clean it off the windshield of the fork lift after squirting it on the ends of the beams.
An airless sprayer gives a nice wide fan that lays on a nice even layer, but you have to use it quite a bit to justify all the extra time it takes to clean it.
Old coffee can and a 4" brush is what I use, both get a good washing after each use. The brush is five years old and the coffee can is even older.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: WDH on September 10, 2011, 10:35:24 PM
The brush makes it easier to get the anchorseal into the wood pores, but it is slower going.  I am a brush guy since I do not do it every day.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: Piston on September 10, 2011, 11:36:19 PM
I bought a spray bottle for cleaning solvents that has an adjustable nozzle, it only holds about 16 oz or so but I don't use it much and it works well.  It doesn't spray a perfect mist but is easier/cleaner/quicker than painting, it also lasts a while in the bottle, I think it cost $4 or so. 

I very rarely use the anchorseal though and I don't think it would work well if you used it a lot.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: doc henderson on July 28, 2018, 10:29:22 PM
hey guys, adding to this older post.  I tried the recommended tip on a cheap garden sprayer with anchorseal and still had a thin stream.  The pumps via UC coatings are about 700 dollars if I recall.  I bought a harbor freight airless sprayer and it works great.  About 150 doallrs with a coupon.  I used a roller but it loaded enough paint and seemed to get more on the ground.  The site states that cleaning is recommended but not needed.  So I am going to try leaving it primed and in the bucket.  I will let you know if it becomes a problem
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 29, 2018, 07:03:53 AM
   I don't do enough logs at one time to justify a sprayer so I took an old gallon milk jug and cut out about 1/4 of the top front leaving the top and handle as a funnel. I use a 4" paintbrush. If I don't use all the anchorseal I turn it upside down and pour it back in the 5 gallon bucket it came in.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: moodnacreek on July 29, 2018, 05:36:16 PM
Back when I was using  anchorseal I bought a 'trombone' sprayer from them.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: DPatton on July 29, 2018, 09:34:33 PM
Quote from: moodnacreek on July 29, 2018, 05:36:16 PM
Back when I was using  anchorseal I bought a 'trombone' sprayer from them.
??? ??? Being a young sheltered pup, I shamefully admit I had to look that one up.  ::)
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: Brad_bb on July 30, 2018, 02:02:09 AM
I use a garden sprayer to apply it, and a brush to spread it.  I keep the brush in a cup of water until I need it.  I have a video in this thread.
End Grain Sealing in Sawmills and Milling (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=84226.msg1288308#msg1288308)
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: tmbrcruiser on July 30, 2018, 08:25:56 AM
Brad, I do the same thing. Spray the log with a back pack sprayer then even out the spray with a 4" brush. Found a 4" brush with a handle that screws off. Take the handle off cut a hole in the coffee tub lid and reattach to the brush. This way I can seal the brush in the can without cleaning each time I use it.
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: tburch on July 30, 2018, 08:47:55 AM
I use a Round Up brand backpack sprayer.   It works OK, but the fan pattern stream hits so hard I get a lot of back splatter.  Too much splatter, but, it's tons faster than using only a brush.  After spraying, I do use a brush to even it out and get it in the pores.   I'll look into seeing what tip UC sells.  I'm using a fan tip now, but it's plastic and does gum up between uses.   
Title: Re: Spraying Anchorseal
Post by: btulloh on July 30, 2018, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: tmbrcruiser on July 30, 2018, 08:25:56 AM
Brad, I do the same thing. Spray the log with a back pack sprayer then even out the spray with a 4" brush. Found a 4" brush with a handle that screws off. Take the handle off cut a hole in the coffee tub lid and reattach to the brush. This way I can seal the brush in the can without cleaning each time I use it.
Ditto for me.  Keep it simple.  Works for my volume of end sealing.  I just cut an X in the top of the coffee can lid and stick the handle through it.  I wrapped some tape around the handle to give it a little more to hang onto.  I change the water once in a while, but mostly just leave it alone.  I never clean the sprayer nozzle either, and it doesn't seem to cause a problem.