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Title: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: bikedude73 on November 10, 2011, 05:48:37 PM
Getting ready to cut some logs for board and battin siding.....  I am not sure how thick to cut the battins or how wide to cut them.  Any help would help ........  Thanks in advance
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: Piston on November 10, 2011, 05:53:21 PM
What type of trees are you milling?

Are the logs freshly cut or have they been sitting a while?


Regardless of your answers to my questions, I can't offer you any useful information.  ;D

But maybe it will make a difference for someone smarter than me  :D


Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: Bibbyman on November 10, 2011, 05:58:57 PM
Widths can be anything you want.



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10034/wsboardonboard20101011.JPG)

Here is "board on board".   We put 8" wide boards down with 4" gap.  Then covered with 6" wide.  Why?  We had a lot of extra 8" and 6" wide boards.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: trumpets3u on November 10, 2011, 06:04:22 PM
When we milled them we sawed them 1 1/2 thick and sawed them in to 2x6 -8-10s
and dried them than ripped them 1/2" an a table saw. We have done it this way for years.
                               Brian
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on November 10, 2011, 06:10:32 PM
 

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/24625/3786/000_1630.JPG)I built a 16 x 20 Man Cave. I sawed 1" x 12" boards x 12 foot long. I put my boards up "green" and let them dry in place for a month while I worked on electric wires, flooring, doors and so on. All my boards were nailed up with "ring shank" nails.

After a month of my lumber drying in 95 degree + weather, I knew how to saw my batten. I sawed them 3/4" thick X 2 1/2" wide. Sizes may vary in your climate depending how much your boards have shrunk. And this is if you put them up green.

I used Pine and Poplar.

When I finished, I pressured washed the whole building to clean all the saw dust and dirt off. I waited another 3 weeks for drying.

Then I went to Lowe's and bought colored weather sealer, and BOY did that wood suck up that oil stain

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: red oaks lumber on November 10, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
we normaly sell 1x10 r.sawn with a 1x2 r.sawn batten strip. or it can be a 1x12 anything smaller than 10" starts to look to busy . my thoughts
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: Magicman on November 10, 2011, 06:25:57 PM
I use 1X12's with 1X4 batten.  Of course lumber is no problem.   ;D
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: Buck on November 10, 2011, 06:34:07 PM
1 x 12's with 1 x 3 battens
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: woodsy on November 10, 2011, 06:38:04 PM
I just did a job yesterday for board and batten siding.  The boards were sawn random width 8 inches and up and the battens were cut 2 inches wide.  Both were sawn 1 inch thick.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: kderby on November 10, 2011, 11:58:41 PM
Around here the boards historically were 1x12 and the battens 1x4.  I like the 1x3 batten as it lets the board stand out and does not look so "heavy."  I will mill/sell 1x10 for the boards but If the logs throw 1x12 then that is what gets milled.  The 1x8 and 1x6 are trim. 

I usually include battens in the board (1x12) price.  That is a good place for the narrow lumber to go.  I charge for the trim boards.  I also create battens by re-sawing the other material that has sweep.  Unruly lumber (dry) gets zipped into 1x3 and it gets nailed!

I have a neighbor with a barn and the notable thing about the structure is that they used some not so fancy material but it was installed well and has lasted decades.  The old timers put practical first and "show boat" second!  I like Bibbymans look and the logic is superb as well.  Use what you got.  It works, it endures and it looks just fine!   

Kderby
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: redbeard on November 11, 2011, 12:46:53 AM
 

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22539/2976/0328001645a_0001.jpg)1x10 with 1x2-1/2" battens with 4" corners and trim around doors and windows.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: thecfarm on November 11, 2011, 05:47:00 AM
I made a horse run in and used 10 inch boards and 4 inch batten. I saw this on a building and stopped  and asked the guy what he used for sizes because I liked the way it looked so much.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: kelLOGg on November 11, 2011, 06:06:35 AM
Poston... that is the neatest, well-furnished man cave I have ever seen. I really like that.
Bob
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: nas on November 11, 2011, 09:32:53 AM
I cut a fair bit of BB and it is usually 10" board and a 2" batten.

Nick
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: Ron Wenrich on November 11, 2011, 10:36:03 AM
I used 1 x 10" and wider pine at a random width for the boards and a 3/4" x 2 1/2" for the battens.  Put a 1 x 4 on the corners.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: jander3 on November 11, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
Just did a shed using 6" boards  and 3" battens, Aspen 3/4" thick; nailed up green.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on November 11, 2011, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: kelLOGg on November 11, 2011, 06:06:35 AM
Poston... that is the neatest, well-furnished man cave I have ever seen. I really like that.
Bob


Thanks Bob. Gotta big screen TV in it, fridge, recliners and I keep my hunting, fishing, and other gear in my cave. Hope to get a pot belly stove in there soon.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: MikeON on November 12, 2011, 06:27:42 AM
This is 1" thick hemlock which air dried for a year.  The boards and battens were stained before being put up.  The stain is Behr Premium Semi-Transparent Cappucino and the screws are Deckmate, both from Home Depot. 

The battens are 2" wide.  The boards are about 9-1/4", but it varies slightly at the windows and between the windows so that the battens also serve as window trim.  I did a little math ahead of time to find a board width that would come out even and not have a a partial-width board at the corners.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10984/1096/IMG_2735.jpg)

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10984/1096/IMG_2730.jpg)
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: redbeard on November 12, 2011, 06:39:41 AM
Yes MikeOn the math is very important good point, using boards a little less than 10'' comes out real nice on layout or ones shy of 12''. The battens can be a problem with windows if not layed out right sometimes you just don't have a choice. I like to start in the middle of a wall and work my way out to the corners.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: Magicman on November 12, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
This one uses 1X12 boards and 1X4 battens.



(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/2410/peagler_049.jpg)

It also won 1st place in this year's Wood-Mizer Personal Best, "For the Good of Others" category.   :)
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: woodmills1 on November 13, 2011, 07:25:06 PM
this year i changed my whole batten thing

I cut so much wide pine that for 12 inch and over i now make 1/2  by 2 1/2" battens

and for less than 12"  3/4" by 1 1/2 battens
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: 36 coupe on November 22, 2011, 08:16:19 AM
I use 2 in wide battens.Put the nail in the center of the batten, not in the board.I use white cedar.Not much wide stock but you cant beat the cost of home sawed lumber.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: farmer mark on November 22, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
1x10 boards and 1x2.5 battens out of hemlock is the norm in western N.Y.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: Woodbuzzer on November 27, 2011, 03:37:41 PM
 I use 1x10s for siding and 3/4 x2 1/2 for the batts .Anything wider than 10" wide has the tendency to cup and split.3/4" batts nail down tighter than the 1",and dont look so "fat".-Mark
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: mrcaptainbob on November 27, 2011, 10:37:29 PM
My house addition was B&B covered around forty years ago. !2" w/ 1 x 2 battens. I don't understand....why put a gap between green boards? They shrink, there's the gap. Putting a gap between green boards (these are cedar) only adds to the gap. There are places where the battens don't completely cover that space. This summer it will be changed out for a different siding. Something that's far more wind resistant.
Title: Re: sizes for board and battin siding?????
Post by: scsmith42 on November 28, 2011, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: Ron Wenrich on November 11, 2011, 10:36:03 AM
I used 1 x 10" and wider pine at a random width for the boards and a 3/4" x 2 1/2" for the battens.  Put a 1 x 4 on the corners.

I'm pretty much the same as Ron, except I use a 3/4" x 3" batten.