These are 5"x2" (full dimension) planed hard maple planks.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Maple_Uprights.jpg)
That's about how they will be used in this project. :)
Of course, there will be a bunch more added as we go. ;D It's too early to say what it is, but as I progress along it will become obvious. ;)
Grain picture, the most interesting grain pattern in the bunch. A hint of figure, but doesn't show up as well in the photo.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Maple_grain.jpg)
Making a new bed frame?
Oh, how I'm going to enjoy this winter. :)
Gonna make a good looking wood working bench.
Went to town for some more maple today, needed some more 8/4 so I bought a bunch extra plus topped it off with a couple layers of 4/4. I've bought 700 feet of hard maple this year.
Yep,
Sounds like a workbench to me, too.
I know it sounds like it, but it's not. That would be too easy to guess. ;) :D
Kitchen island?
Nope. ;D
A soap box racer 8)
:D :D :D
Oh, I know what it is 8) 8) 8)
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(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20317/2575/P1010015.JPG)
Swamp, you're building a bird house right 8) 8)
WOW! And ya thought posting pics was hard before :D :D :D
It won't allow Jpegs.....small glitch there :)
What's that? The ferret hotel? Sorry, was a show on last night about ferrets, couldn't help myself. :D :D
I think we need a hint here 8)
I hope it's a x-mas gift for me 8)
Oh, it'll unravel as we go along. ;D
But for the most part, it will be a jointed frame. ;)
I don't know how you got that photo in there Dale because the upload has been turned off on my end. I can search and view gallery photos, but no upload.
Quoteneeded some more 8/4 so I bought a bunch extra plus topped it off with a couple layers of 4/4.
Kitchen island?Workbench?Bowling alley!
Quote from: metalspinner on November 22, 2011, 08:23:58 AM
Quoteneeded some more 8/4 so I bought a bunch extra plus topped it off with a couple layers of 4/4.
Kitchen island?
Workbench?
Bowling alley!
Bowling alley! ;D :D
There are two things that are fact,
1. It will be something out of wood, ;D
2. It ain't sweet gum! ;)
I'm gonna guess a figured maple bed with a giant maple headboard and some type of fancy inlay, maybe intarsa on it.
If you ain't...that sounds like a good project anyway ;) :D
Interested to see what you're building, SD.
Here is a photo highlighting some areas of grain that pop out of the board. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/72/SD_Maple_Figure.jpg)
Hey SD!,
I've got a Great Horned Owl that can live in your birdhouse!
Y'know, you can only drag these things out so far.........
Will it be a trebuchet? Are you going to conquer N.B.? ;D
He's building some kind of contraption. :o Uh oh we had better watch and learn. ;D Now for what kind of contraption.... well it sounds fairly big..... maybe a land yacht to run on the snow. :D Remember he has a whole heard of them swamp donkeys in the back field pasturing till ready for use. :D
I cut a bunch of tenons today on the frame timbers. No pictures, but some are 3" long and some 2". On 4" and 5" wide timber. Now I need that drill press to start the mortises. :D I just drill between the scribed lines and use a mortise chisel to clean it out. Keeps things square. I also have a hooked mortise chisel to clean out the bottom.
A mortise attachment might be nice. I think people use them improperly. I think again you drill the holes with a bit and square the shoulders with a chisel and clean up with the mortiser. That's how I see it used in my shop manuals. Some people try to go pull bore cutting dense hardwood from the start. I see troubles doing that just by looking at the design of the bit.
Da man has maybe a new girlyfriend and is making a new to her cosmetic center.
smiley_gorgeous dangle_smiley dangle_smiley smiley_love
Maybe he's making a new outhouse? ;D
This is what I was referring to:
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,25344.0.html
There have a been a couple of other threads over the years where a guy was given a hard time about building too nice of an outhouse. :) In fact, I think one guy even built a really nice outhouse but I can't find the thread.
I think the outhouse you are refering too is that one Chet built at his cabin :o smiley_daisy
Chet's Outhouse (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,45328.msg652151.html#msg652151)
I've seen member Pappy's Outhouse up in Soldier Pond by their cabin on the Fish River.
It is one super Outhouse and even has a heater in it. :)
Thus the phrase "built like a brick ___ house". ;D
That's the one I was thinking of, Marcel!
SwampDonkey,yer killing me,give up a little more info. My guess,A big a-- T square for the timber frame guys :o. Tim
The thread on drilling and ratchets is related. ;D
I saw 2 brick ones in PA by an Amish school house. One for the boys,one for the girls. I have no idea where the picture is now. ;D
Need a 1-1/2" Ø dowel, 60" long for a piece of "support equipment" in this project. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxvsjQjd8nw
Here's the dowel rod. The attachment points will be on the bottom end and 12 inches down from the ends. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Maple_Dowel60.jpg)
Rope bed?
It's all for a girlyfriend I tell ya. ;D
Keep that up and we'll never get invited for moose hunting Marcel. :D
LOL LOL
Looks like he made one of dem fandangled thumpin' sticks..... maybe he's gonna try to tame some of them moose so he can hook the sled to em... ;) :D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Reel3.jpg)
Video coming up in a couple hours. I'm on dial-up remember. ;D ;)
Yes, now I'm very curious to see how it 'unfolds'.
Whatever it is, we don't have them in Mississippi, but I'm sure that I always wanted one. ;D
Ohhh...
It's a clothes dryer for Swampdonkey's unmentionables.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wewzfT1G8Y
Needs a little wax on the axel. ;D
Remember, this is a piece of the "support equipment".
Are you changing your business name to Swamp Donkey Weaving and Forestry? :D
Hey, I just make the furniture. ;D
But, weaving is a much warmer and drier occupation. :D
Unless you are doing underwater basket weaving. :)
Its a girlyfriend thing !!! He has given in ;D
Quote from: isawlogs on November 30, 2011, 06:15:17 PM
Its a girlyfriend thing !!! He has given in ;D
I haven't believed it Marcel, but now I gotta agree smiley_blush smiley_kiss smiley_kiss
Yeah, the next thing he's going to tell us that it's for a dear old aunt. :D
I told my mother, I found her a new job. :D
I told you guys before, it's a lot cheaper be'n a bachelor. :D
I know what it is......
It is a rack to hang the sealskin boots, the caribou anoraks, sled dog harnesses, and the muktuk containers on to make them convenient to get at. It gets cold up there, and a person has to have a place to hang things :).
I'm thinking something for quilts or a way way oversized spinning wheel or something.
I'm still thinking girlyfriend :-* :-* :-*
I'm still thinking I'll never get to see what moose tastes like. :D
I'm still thinking it's my x-mas present :)
Or it's a present for the new girl friend :) Btw SD, when ya going to post a few pics of the new girl friend 8)
Darla thinks it's some sort of a coat rack, I think it's a new turbine windmill 8)
It's gonna be a windmill that will run a generator to charge bat trees.
Now that I have it sanded, I've got to look for a low odor shellac or something that doesn't go on like a film of plastic. I think with maple, if it darkened a little the grain comes out all that much better. I didn't buy this as figured wood, but there sure is some light figure in places. Curl grain hither and yon. I thought some was planer waves, but rubbed it and smooth like glass. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Maple_Curl.jpg)
Some ray fleck in the cross pieces. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Maple_ray_fleck.jpg)
Are you going to actually use it for yarn/thread or for wire or what? Maybe the guys are right and there's a Mrs SD on the horizon? ;D
Yarns mostly, yes. ;D
Now that you bring up wire, I need some stainless. Just not yet sure of the weight yet, the reed I want to make should have around 8 or 10 dents for most warps. I'll have to read the old pattern books I scrounged off the internet archives. ;D
Another cross member shot.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Maple_grain10.jpg)
Just as I thought - he's gonna be weaving tube socks for them swamp donkeys
Here's some eye that the Shellac brought out. They are very small eyes.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Maple_eye.jpg)
That's pretty cool. I've a friend who is getting into sewing, darning, and the like for a bunch of projects he has.
Another piece of equipment I've been perfecting. First step after the parts were cut out was to figure how it all fit. There is only one way, so it all works. ;D
This is a prototype. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Table_Swift2.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Table_Swift1.jpg)
Holy contraption. 8)
Looks like a spinning whirly-gig clothes dryer! (for a lady friend's unmentionables)
It is a Leonardo DaVinci flying machine.
It does rotate about the axis and adjusts up and down to widen or close up like an umbrella. ;D
Ok I regress Its not a "girlyfriend thing", it for a "girlfriend's thing's " ;D
Norm ifin you want to moose hunting , well we may have to find a spot ;D :D
:D :D :D
It's pretty cool SD. :)
Quote from: Magicman on November 30, 2011, 04:27:39 PM
Whatever it is, we don't have them in Mississippi, but I'm sure that I always wanted one. ;D
You can turn it on it's side and make a paddle for a river boat. You have/had those. :)
Some more pictures. Remember this is a prototype. I will make another with thicker dowel and heavier sprockets. And where the nails are will be brass rivets. The ends will remain string, as you need that flexibility as you adjust the swift. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Table_Swift5.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Table_Swift6.jpg)
Dowel there in the bottom stop is just turned in on friction with a nail tip about 1/8". It will become a thumbscrew with a inset nut inside the screw hole.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Table_Swift7.jpg)
Notice the collar with the inset screw for the top ferris.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Table_Swift8.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Table_Swift9.jpg)
Tried to get as much of that maple grain pattern as I could in the cross sticks. ;D The ones coming off the bottom ferris all have the grain pattern. However, not all of the top ones do.
Two minute video to follow, takes awhile on dialup. ;)
You realized that this is only the beginning. Now you will need to make a spinning wheel and all the rest of the goodies to go with it.
Just how much underwear does your girl friend need to dry at one time ???.
And the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwMuLbnED-o
I like your work bench/assembly table. It is a multi-tasker :D.
That is about the nicest underwear drying rack that I have ever seen.
Limited shop space requires improvisation. ;D
I suppose I could throw a set of wool underwear over the swift. :D :D :D
Hey, one of my work tables moonlights as a table saw as well :D.
How to use a swift. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il2Hw8NcYQM
OK, I see. That spinning effect is what makes the underwear dry faster. With this, you can make your underwear and dry it at the same time. Kind of like a work bench/table saw combo.
You have some serious knitting problems if you need one of those!
I guess you could equate it to the serious wood problems you find around here.
P.S. Yours looks better than the yarn!
Don't look at it as a knitting problem, look at it as a woodworking project. 8)
I won't be knitting. ;)
smiley_gorgeous
Next thing ya know, you will be building a swift.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/Swift%7E0.jpg)
An 8 hour day is never long enough when your enjoying a hobby. And when your a bachelor, cooking interferes with your wood working. ;) :D
If he builds a ball winder, then we should be concerned.
Actually something more useful, a bobbin winder. ;) I'd like to see anyone wind a bobbin more efficiently than using a swift or reel to keep a skein of yarn from catching and turning into knots as you wind. ;D
I've spent a couple of hours today starting this piece.
Carcass still being carved, but the pirn hole is cut out.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Fly-shuttle1.jpg)
Stainless steel insert
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Fly-shuttle2.jpg)
End feed fly shuttle. It will have roller/wheels. This is 18" long.
Neat...I have a spinning wheel that I am expected to refurbish soon...I doubt I eill recieve socks for my trouble...but hey..
Hey, I knew that was a shuttle. My grandfather made 5 spinning wheels, one for each daughter 10 or 15 years ago.
Worked on a pirn and attachment mechanism to the fly shuttle.
A knock-down fitting was used in the shuttle as a tightening mechanism for the pirn. The pirn has an inside threaded brass insert that screws onto the end of the knock-down fitting bolt. Parts shown in photos below. A piece of spring wire was inserted over the cam nut to keep it from coming out. Once the bolt is inserted into the cam nut, a screw driver is used to firmly seat the pirn in position. There is an arrow on the cam nut that serves as an index to line the cam nut with the cam bolt. The brass insert is a separate item from the knock-down fitting (a closed ended plastic insert nut was included). The brass insert serves 3 functions: 1) to mount to the fly-shuttle, 2) a notch in it helps hold the yarn to be wound onto the pirn, 3) allows it to be mounted on a bobbin winder as the ends are open for the bobbin winder shaft to be inserted. The hole inside the pirn tapers for a snug fit.
The bobbin winder is in prototype, just need that drill press to centre some holes. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Fly-shuttle4.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Fly-shuttle5.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Fly-shuttle6.jpg)
Enjoy. ;D
Got the rivets on the X's and the screws threaded for the vise and the swift adjustment. I put a different top on to. Just needs some finish. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Table_Swift10.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Table_Swift12.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Table_Swift11.jpg)
Nice job Donk ;D
When we gonna see a picture of her?
She is a patient one :).
Did ya cut those straight threads on that "BOLT" used to tighten it all down with as well??
Very nice project too...
Mark
Spiker yes, with Beall's Wood Tapping and Threading jig (Made in USA) and a Makita 2 hp micro depth adjust router with on/off switch. Turned the rounds for the bolts on the lathe first. All wood was machined in the shop. For vise screws over an 1" but up to 1-1/2" you have to be special order the Delrin insert and tap kit.
Delrin looks like what we call white Teflon, but maybe there is a difference.
Spool rack with 1/4" dowel joints and 1/2" spool dowels.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Spool_Rack1.jpg)
spools are loaded by removing the dowel rods on this slotted track. They seat into the bottom as it is 1/32 deeper into the upright member, making a snap when seated. The opposite side is just a 1/2" hole.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Spool_Rack2.jpg)
Another piece of "equipment" that accompanies this is a paddle.
Threads go from here, using the paddle, to the warp reel. ;)
Enjoy ;D
Looks like something that you could hang socks on to dry, next to the underwear drying rack :D.
Very nice. Good tight joinery. You have become an accomplished dowel cutter, too. That is some nice maple.
I was going to mention socks or towels of something, but I knew someone would pipe in. ;D
Socks go well with underwear. I read that somewhere :P :).
Or pantyhose. ;D
How many ours in this project, I mean how many hours do you have in this project? Great workmanship. Holmes
Good Question Holmes. As I'm not on a production time line. Something like the spool rack can be done in a day, including the dowel making. But often times I may spread something like that over a couple days, then applying finish is extra time. My days are not 8 hours. Sometimes it could be 4 or 12. ;)
Cooking, a man has to eat once in awhile and when your the cook, well there is 1-2 hours lost a day. Mighty inconvenient this eating thing, but food tastes pretty good. :D
How many ours?
:D
Just as many theirs. ;D
Here's a heddle hook hot off the assembly line. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_heddle_hook2.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_heddle_hook1.jpg)
Now wait a minute, I'm still not clear. The project SD was making was much larger than that swift video. Is his project a swift? If so, why is it so much larger than the one in the video? Is his project finished yet?
Brad, most of what has been constructed so far is support equipment. Right now I am finishing up a wooden reel. I have some 3/8 dowel to cut today and some mortices to chop. The drill press should arrive this week and I have a mortise attachment and chisels for the ready as well as some forstner bits that should be here soon.
Brad , ya got to pay attention!!! ;D :D
A floor model Reel. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Reel1.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Reel2.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Reel4.jpg)
More dowels of course and I used my circle jig for the reel ends. Everything is solid maple. Feet half jointed together. Mortise and tenon joints on column and reel mounts. Brass wire for reel axis and special home made rounded ends. ;)
A little video demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Nn4sc5LF4
Good job Donk!! 8)
Are you also planning a rocking chair ??? As all of those are accessories to one as I have only ever seen any of your doings been in use while someone occupied the chair, and she was also a grandma too. Just asking/saying ;D :D
Where'd ya git da circle jig ???
SD,
I am impressed!
That is some real nice woodworking.
Quote from: isawlogs on January 09, 2012, 07:21:17 PM
Where'd ya git da circle jig ???
Where else? ;)
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,43000,43001&p=40970
Makes up to a 7-1/2" cut out or a 7" disc. Uses 1/4" router bit so you loose 1/2" of material
Impressive, SD.
Finished with the shellac this morning and added some felt feet.
Back to work. ;)
One of the reasons it's hard to throw out scraps.
This is a hard maple paddle, but it becomes special with the walnut lamination. Scrap pieces came from boards used in the bench drawers I made earlier. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Paddle1.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Paddle-handle.jpg)
The paddle is used with the spool rack to put "warp" threads onto the warp reel. May not look significant, but most of us aren't weavers. ;D
I've got to get the wood burning pen out tomorrow and start signing/dating some stuff. ;)
This has got to be one of your more detailed projects.......
It's lookin' great 8)
Good work Donk ;)
Its looking better all the time !! When are we going to meet the weaver ;D
I should of known from where you got the circle jig ::) :D
My problem is that I never throw out the scraps and they accumulate and proliferate like rabbits :).
I just heat the shop with ours when Patty isn't looking. :D
That paddle looks awesome SD but you're not fooling me with what it's used for. :o
I miss my wood burner in the shop here, boy is that ever going to be nice to have again when I move back home. :)
Quote from: Norm on January 11, 2012, 07:04:13 AM
I just heat the shop with ours when Patty isn't looking. :D
That paddle looks awesome SD but you're not fooling me with what it's used for. :o
And if I remember correctly, those holes sure put an extra zing in the swing...
Herb
Just what you need to keep bad actors in line. :D
Quote from: SwampDonkey on January 11, 2012, 05:18:01 PM
Just what you need to keep bad actors in line. :D
Who's acting? :D
Testing the pirn spooling thread through the tightening mechanism of the fly shuttle. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C-wlVvpdFw
Completed fly shuttle.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/Fly-shuttle8.jpg)
Hot Wheels anyone? ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FStpursYeuU
My next piece of equipment, just as important as the warping equipment, is a loom bench. The one I'm going to build is much the same as the Harrisville Loom bench. It will rock on the wooden height adjustment brackets for added comfort. And carried by handles at the top of each vertical post. I see on a wood working forum, by Googling, where some one else has make the exact same style. I believe it to be one of the best designs I've seen and read about so far. :)
Height adjustable loom bench that rocks! ;D ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Full-Bench.jpg)
Forward rock:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Bench_Forward.jpg)
Backward rock:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Bench_Backward.jpg)
I have to sand the marks off tomorrow and glue the feet to the vertical posts. :)
Added the "finishing touches" today on the loom bench.
This bench is made of 5/4 hard maple, the stile is 6/4 for extra strength because it's pegged. I just finished up with the shellac finishing on the surfaces, with a little wax on the mortise pegs, in the bench sleeves and on the brackets. The seat is 42 inches, end to end with a seating area of 36 inches by 12 inches wide between posts. The seat rests on adjustable wooden brackets held by high quality wing nuts that don't require a tool to tighten and loosen. High quality threaded steel rod was used that threads into a 3/4" insert on the back face. This bench rocks if the brackets are installed with the curved faces up. If rocking is too funky, then inverting the brackets makes for a flat bench to. The brackets are 10" long x 2-3/4 wide in the middle. The seat can be adjusted for 19-29" of height.
Various parts to the bench:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Bench4.jpg)
The uprights are mortise and tenon feet, with rounded mortise slots for handles and square mortise for the stile. The peg holes in the stile are 1/2" x 3/4" at top and 1/2" square on the bottom, pegs are 6" long. Some of the mortises I chopped by hand (one foot), some routered (handles, bench sleeves) and some with my recently acquired drill press with mortise attachment (upright stile hole,pin holes). Table saw was used to cut the tenons. I like the drill press the best, but you still have to clean up with chisels and a good rasp sometimes. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Bench5.jpg)
Shows brackets, rounded top for rocking, square bottom for flat bench seat. Pegs tapped in place on the stile.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Bench6.jpg)
Assembled, solid as a rock (maple). ;)
Enjoy. :)
I like this thread, keep opening it as soon as I see something added to it.
It's all lookin' good Bill !!! 8)
That is some fine work there, Partner!
Thanks for following along. ;D
Today I'm going head first into the loom frame construction. ;)
I have had some feedback from weavers and they indicate that a rocking bench is the Cadillac of loom benches because sitting for periods of time doesn't cut into your legs and the rock conforms with your body's motion when weaving. ;)
Good , did you find any wire yet ???
My wife wants one... ::) :-\
Coming out of Ottawa, 1/8" ss 304 round rod. As soon as they cut it to 4 ft (it's 12 foot in their shop) they said it would be here in 2 days by courier. So possibly Friday or Monday. They told me they would notify me when it shipped. I'm not near that stage yet to need it, so no rush. I'll have to contact Leclerc some time for the Texsolv cord and clips used to set the heddles, vertical jacks, lams and treadles. This cord doesn't stretch much or slip a knot. :)
Wow, SD. It's looking incredible. Can't wait to see the entire group of finished items all together in 1 picture.
Finished cutting the mortises with the drill press you see here. I fit everything together on one half of the frame and checked the length and it's dead on 5 feet. I still have to cut a couple dove tails, one on the top of that far post for the breast beam, then the top-middle of the short middle beam for the cloth beam to fit into and then a 2" hole for the cloth roller. The far end of the top beam needs a taper on the underside from the middle post to the far end and needs rounding on the end where the overhead fly-shuttle beater sits and pivots from.
One half of the loom frame fitted.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom-Frame1.jpg)
Looking good !!!
Nice choice on the drill press. I have a friend that has one like that, sure wished mine had that head on it :-\ :) :)
Progress report: :)
The frame joints are all cut, except the pin holes on the frame cross members (two at the bottom corners and one up top on the tower. I now need to make one each hexagon warp beam for the back and cloth beam for down there in those round holes. I'm going to laminate two - 2" x5"'s with sloped shoulders. The actual widest edge of each plank will be 4-5/8". The width of each of the 6 faces will be 2-5/16". I will then bore the ends of the beams for 2" wooden shafts. One end of the beams will have a shaft squared off for the ratchet and wheel assembly.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom-Frame3.jpg)
edit: I modified the height of the breast beam on the front and raised it another 3" higher than what you see in this photo
It's huge!
It should weave a 60" wide blanket. ;D
It'll be 3 feet wider than that with the flyshuttle beater attached to the tower. :)
I need to build a couple of beams. One for the weaved cloth to wind on under the reed and one for the warp threads on the rear of the loom.
I am making hexagon shapes for the beams. Here I ripped 2-1/2" wide strips and then jointed the edges to 60 degrees with the widest face ending up being 2-5/16" wide.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Hex-Beam1.jpg)
Doesn't get much better than that.
But I needed a jig to hold the members in place so I took some plywood, drew a circle with radius 1.5" and marked cords at 1.5" apart on the circle for drill holes to secure the ends of the members in place with Robertson screws.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Hex-Beam3.jpg)
Here I am on the 5th segment of the hexagon. Bar clamps and a work bench come in handy to press the members flush to each surface for gluing.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Hex-Beam4.jpg)
I will add the last member shortly to complete the hexagon. Then, let the beam cure for a day and round the sharp corners later.
I tried biscuits as a test to align them, but could not get them aligned. They should work with the fence set to 60 degrees, making apposing slots perpendicular, but I found they were off by 1/8". No idea why. The sloped sides are all 60 degrees and the pieces are quite accurately jointed.
What a project! 8)
Will this break down into smaller assemblies for transport?
Do you ever wonder how they did this intricate of a project w/o all the fancy clamps we have these days?
This project is really amazing. :)
Way, way above anything I would attempt.
Quote from: metalspinner on February 03, 2012, 07:35:53 AM
Will this break down into smaller assemblies for transport?
Yes, the side halves are secured by the breast beam (dovetailed) and 2 weave beams with shouldered tenons that all lift out and 3 cross members with pegged through tenons that you tap into place securely. The side halves will be glued mortise and tenons at all the joints: 6' tall, 5' long. Both beams will be held also by a wheel and ratchet assembly with pegged through tenons. Take the pegs out and wheels off and the beams will slide out once the pins in the cross members are tapped out. The bridge (not shown) on the top of the tower holds the vertical jacks, pulley system and heddle harnesses. There will be three sets of 8 pulleys and 8 jacks. There are also 2 sets of 8 lams (upper and lower).
Today I rounded the corners on the cloth beam and rough sanded with 120 grit for now. I also used the drill press and bored 2" wide shaft holes in the ends of the cloth beam, 3" deep, to glue on the shafts. I will turn them tomorrow.
Amazing work, SD. Are you selling this piece, building it for yourself, a friend, or what? I'd love to build something like that but have not the time nor the skill.
Quote from: Warbird on February 03, 2012, 06:44:19 PM
Amazing work, SD. Are you selling this piece, building it for yourself, a friend, or what? I'd love to build something like that but have not the time nor the skill.
If someone comes along with the appropriate number of bills I suppose they could free it from my possession. ;)
Testing the fit. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Hex-Beam6.jpg)
Wow, she is going to really like that!
Yup .. but big question is " who is da SHE " eh eh ;D :D
First raider bill and now SD....boy they're dropping like flies around here. :D
Actually, Dodgy Loner was the first to drop. LOL
Ratchet wheel.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_ratchet-wheel.jpg)
I left an inch behind the ratchet in case I want to install a brake fashioned from a SS strip and spring wire. I don't think I need one on the cloth beam, but it would come in handy on the warp beam at the back. Using the drill press and a press vise I drilled holes at 20 degrees for the 5 wheel handles. The wheel and ratchet is secured by a pegged through tenon.
I think you missed your calling! Very nice work.
That ratchet system with the pegged tenon is especially nice.
It really is. I'm eager to see the completed piece.
Quote from: Warbird on February 06, 2012, 10:47:27 PM
It really is. I'm eager to see the completed piece.
X2. I would also like to see a video of it working I have never been around one, that really is something. You do like a challenge don't you ;).
Since the hexagon beam went without a hitch, let's try a larger diameter octagon beam for kicks. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Oct-Beam1.jpg)
This time the wide face of each member is 3" and the shoulders are 67.5° The octagon corners should fit an 8" diameter circle.
Quote from: sandhills on February 07, 2012, 10:33:30 AM
I would also like to see a video of it working I have never been around one, that really is something.
All in due time. :)
Progressing along on the Octagon.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Oct-Beam-2.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Oct-Beam-3.jpg)
Final assembly:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Oct_Beam-4.jpg)
That's really something.
Well, we are going to have to close the ends of this beam if we want to spin it on a shaft. ;D
2" hard maple plugs.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Oct-Beam-5.jpg)
In their rightful place.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Oct-Beam-6.jpg)
My new drill press will handle boring the shaft holes as it tilts, elevates and swivels in just about any position. Worked just fine boring the 6" hex beam. ;)
Looks like that it closed up just fine!
Donk,this is an awsome project to tackle.When do You sleep? candle_smiley candle_smiley candle_smiley smiley_thumbsup
Jim
If you have a decent router setup you can use birds mouth bits to make even stronger joints. Them bits are $40 bucks for each number of sides you want though. I like cheap better. But I don't have a router setup here that would make an accurate long cut for 5 feet. I have an excellent router, but that's where it ends. :D With the ends plugged the strength issue is pretty near mute. Just my opinion. ;)
Sleep? I haven't slept too sound in years. :D
Quote from: SwampDonkey on February 09, 2012, 10:06:44 PM
Sleep? I haven't slept too sound in years. :D
He's an alien remember?
No he's single.... ;)
Ratchet handle on the warp beam.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Oct-Beam-7.jpg)
I swapped the 20 toothed ratchet from the cloth beam to place on the warp beam here. I made a 45 toothed ratchet for the cloth beam where fine tuning is required during weaving.
Been working on this raddle. The spacing of 1/4" dowels 4" long is 1/2" on centre. I think there are 150 dowels, after 80 I stopped counting and i was half way across. Just began those when it was quitting time. ;D
The raddle is used to spread the warp threads evenly across the width of the warp roller as it's wound on. Bouts of warp threads are layed between the dowel pegs, probably 4 threads of 2-ply wool would fit. This helps keep count of the warp threads. The top section is meant to come off while doing this. Then it is placed on and there is a 5/16" wide by 1/2" deep slit in it that fits over the dowels. There will be a peg hole drilled in the ends of the raddle top and through the uprights. The top of the uprights has another hole and is to be rounded on the top end. I believe this is used to suspend the raddle from the loom frame overhead if desired. Also, a stand will be made which can be bolted to the back of the loom onto the warp beam.
This is what I got done today.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Raddle1.jpg)
Completed raddle with stand.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Raddle2.jpg)
Wow Donk this is an extra- large project and you are doin' a fine job 8)
We gotta see and hear about this gal pretty soon. She must be very special ;)
That is some fine work for sure, so she must be something very special indeed. I think that Marcell was on to him early on, but he has been very quiet about this :).
SD, how many harnesses are you planning to have? Very Glimakra-esque......
I understand the dowels on the rattle as an option but don't you want it to hold a regular reed as well?
Nice work all the way...... 8)
Yup, I'm going to make a 4 dent reed for starts. I have not yet decided on the number of harnesses, but am making provisions for 8 treadles. I'm thinking 8 vertical jacks so at least 8 harnesses. A vertical countermarche only requires one harness per jack. I've got to make 1200 heddles from Texsolv for 20 ends per inch across 60" of weaving. :D
I've got to make a temple as well right off soon.
Quote from: SwampDonkey on February 16, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
I've got to make a temple as well right off soon.
Make it a big one :).
Nothing small. :D
Quote from: WDH on February 16, 2012, 08:27:32 PM
Quote from: SwampDonkey on February 16, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
I've got to make a temple as well right off soon.
Make it a big one :).
Will the wedding be in the temple? :)
I put this temple together today from hard maple, it extends to 65 inches. Made a 1/8" brass pin with an eye for a handle, made a SS sliding band from a band clamp and I used finish nails inserted at 30 degrees on the stretchers. I drilled all the way up the length of the outside piece as it was easiest to line up the holes in the insert (middle piece). This is not needed and the plans do not call for it. The outside piece just needs on hole drilled through and through as the falcrum on the end. Anyhow, doesn't detract from the piece in my opinion.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Temple_open.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Temple-closed.jpg)
The temple is used to keep the weaved fabric from pulling in caused from too much tension in the weft threads.
Enjoy :)
This is all beyond me now...I forgot where we started and are we ever gonna get done makin' stuff??
Spring is on it's way young man!! :-* :-*
:D I don't think making stuff ever ends when your talking about weaving. One thing after another I'm thinking. ;)
Still about 2-1/2 months of winter yet. Don't rush time along too quick, enjoy life. ;D
Pirn winder. That blue band is an elastic band off broccoli bunches. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_pirn-winder.jpg)
A little video to follow. ;)
Wind that pirn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVsSWdEIIFk
From what I hear you better be quick Donk! Get ripping those floorboards up because I'm certain you've kittens or puppies under there that are dieing!
Clark
:D :D Might be having kittens before it's over with. :D
LOL!
In certain circles the women will be fighting over you. ;D
Think I should join the Madawaska weavers? :D :D
If you have the time. SURE, Why not!
I wouldn't think any less of you, especially if that's where the women are. :D
That device talks to you while you work! Good show.
I needed a small peg hammer to tap the pegs in and out of the loom when moving (which I don't plan on doing once it's complete :) ) Went to the scrap pile and picked out some pieces. The hammer is held in the head with a wedge that tightens as you knock the handle onto the head. Notice not drilled all the way through. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_peg-hammer.jpg)
Looks good Donk.....All I can say is bees' wax could be your friend! ;D
I've got wax, but a lot of the squeak is the 1/8" brass rod used on the reel from friction. I plan on putting some on the winder though. I have to turn a different handle on the big wheel because it was off centre a little. Doesn't affect the winding other than you here a snap once in awhile because of the slop in it where I drilled it again to aline the hole. No biggy, going to do that after dinner.
Very cool Donk! I am impressed.....especially after I muted the sound. ;) :)
Working on the 4 dent reed.
Here I have 2 - 5/8" diameter dowels with a 1/8" wide x 1/4" deep groove in each half cut on the table saw. I am winding the tarred cord to maintain the spacing between dents. Since I am not using flat wire on this reed the dowels where not split. With them split the tarred cord would also serve as binding. The ends will be capped with copper fittings and a piece of aluminum strip will bind the two dowel halves together fastened on end to the the copper fittings which have a slit cut down the side. I have the caps on there now to mark the starting point. The aluminum strip will be added at the end. Then gaffer's tape is wrapped over the cord and the capped ends to finish the reed. To keep the cord taught and in place I put a strip of tape over the cord as I advance along.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Reed-8dent.jpg)
Sure hope that is clear to you, as I am still juggling all that down :P :P :)
What does the lady think about all this ???. Like Red Green says, "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." :D
It's a slow process, after 3 hours I made it 20 inches of the way across 60 inches of width. You don't cover much ground/hr when you move 1/8" at a time. I'd hate to make a 30 dent reed. :D
Been on my feet long enough today, time to retire. ;)
Just wanted to bring your attention to where my gaffer's tape is made. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_gaffers-tape.jpg)
It's strong (45 lbs) and sticks good to. Marcel knows where I shop. 8)
Finished 4 dent reed.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Reed-8dent-final.jpg)
Been working on the bridge of the loom, where pulleys and jacks are used to control the shafts. Yesterday I turned a series of pulleys, 3 sets of 8 (8 harnesses) and cut out the frame of the bridge.
I'm well versed at drilling holes, you can't imagine the holes required for all this gadgetry. Lots to drill yet. Kind of holding off a bit until the heddles arrive and the anchor pins. I want to make sure the holes are just right. ;)
I don't think I could take on such a project, no matter how long our winter could be. :D :D :D
I do though like to see how you are coming along with it. 8)
It is truly amazing what a man will do for love. smiley_gorgeous
;D
Quote from: isawlogs on February 29, 2012, 08:29:55 AM
I don't think I could take on such a project, no matter how long our winter could be. :D :D :D
You've got lots to keep you busy. I need something to keep me busy, can't stand idleness. ;)
Pictures of the vertical countermarche bridge.
Pulleys on the left that go down to the lower lamms.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom-Bridge2.jpg)
Pulleys on either side of the jacks that tie up the shafts. Vertical jacks with brass locking pin inserted during the tie-up procedure.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom-Bridge1.jpg)
Top holes in the jacks go to the lower lamm pulleys, the other series of holes go to the pulleys that control the shafts. Drilled to 7/32" diameter to accommodate the Texsolv system of tie-up with anchor pins and arrow pins.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom-Bridge3.jpg)
Steel washers between pulleys and jacks reduce friction. 5/16" steel rod used in the pulleys and jacks.
Possibly I am the only person reading this who has absolutely no idea what you are making. :D
Yup, I understand.
It's a loom and accessories. But, I'm sure your kidding. ;D I have been going from loom to making an accessory and back to the loom.
Maybe I should rename this thread "the loomy bin". ;)
Quote from: DouginUtah on March 01, 2012, 06:06:47 PM
Possibly I am the only person reading this who has absolutely no idea what you are making. :D
:D No you're not Doug.... I get the concept of the loom... but have NO clue what parts do what... :D
Now you know what Da Vinci musta went through. :D :D
I still just want to see a video of all the parts together in action :) I don't think I even have a shed big enough to house this machine :D.
I have 10 foot ceilings. 8)
Lower lamms:
The lower lamms lower the shafts over head by pressing the treadles. This causes the top of the jacks to tip to the left where the pulleys for the lower lamms are located. Shafts house heddles, which are eyes in cord where the warp yarn passes on the way to the reed at the front. The upper lamms raise some warp and the lower lamms lower some. This creates an opening at the reed called a shed. In this shed is where the weaving occurs as the crossing threads from side to side are passed with a shuttle. These threads are called weft. Wide looms such as this use a fly shuttle that is launched by cords to a box on each side. Each box traps the returning shuttle and it is returned to the opposite side by pulling the cord again while the shuttle spools off weft like it would when done by hand while passing through the shed in front of the reed.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Lwr-Lamms1.jpg)
Holes are drilled for heddle shafts overhead and treadles below. There is a mid-point in the lower lamms that attached to the shafts that they lower. You can see there is a spot on the lamm bars there that have holes closer together. The middle hole on each bar in there. That is also the centre of the loom. Fourth row of holes from the bottom of the first picture.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Lwr-Lamms2.jpg)
The holes on the end of the lamm bars attach to the jacks up top.
Treadles on the bottom (left-right) and upper lamms installed.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom-build1.jpg)
:o Wow. I have almost no idea of how that thing works now. Are there different types of looms? It seems like the one you're making is much more complicated than ones I've seen pictures of? Could just be I'm remembering incorrectly.
Regardless, that's very impressive work, SD. Thanks for all the pictures.
A Cadillac of countermarch looms is a vertical loom such as this. ;D It allows you to add a drawbridge for more detailed pattern weaving.
Right now as you see the treadles and lamms they are not tied up. They all sit level to the floor when the tie-up is complete. The heddle bar pairs (shafts) are yet to be built which hold the heddles, where the warp threads from the back beam (warp beam) pass on the way to the reed in the front. The lower lamms move toward the floor when the treadles are stepped on and the upper lamms move up as the jacks up top control this motion with pulleys. This opens the shed at the reed, as opposing shafts pass one another up and down, allowing the shuttle to pass between.
I still have little idea as to how it actually works. LOL You'll have to post some video of it working when you're all done.
After reading reply 217 I was sure hoping someone else was confused too, thanks Warbird :D.
The Texsolv heddles and tie-up cord just arrived today. 8) 8) These are a Swedish product. The Texsolv system is the easiest way to deal with heddles and cord. The tie-up cord has eyes braided along the length that you insert arrow pins as shown or anchor pin. This eliminates tying knots and retying knots. ;D You can also see the eye in the middle of the heddle I'm holding, where the warp threads must pass. ;D These are 10-1/2" long.
The heddles are packaged in bunches of 100. I purchased 16 bunches. Who volunteers to thread this sucker? :D :D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_heddles1.jpg)
Here is the eye of the heddle.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_heddles4.jpg)
Tie-up cord
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_heddles3.jpg)
arrow pin instead of using knots
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_heddles2.jpg)
;D
Today I also ripped and planed my harness/heddle bars that hold the heddles. 1-3/8" x 3/8" x 62" The upper lamms and heddle bars have to counter balance the lower lamms.
I'll throw this picture in, just to throw your minds off that axe for a quick second. :D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom-beater1.jpg)
Here is my progress with the fly-shuttle beater. I have all the main joints cut and cleaned up. Now to make the shuttle boxes, drill the holes for the height adjustment and attach the uprights to the race. Plus attach the fulcrums and depth adjustments for the beater up top. The home made reed fits nicely as it should.
Have a good one. Now back to the axe auction. :)
Next year's project and beyond will never be this involved. :D
Glenn, he may be needing time to locate and find'im an operator for that thingamagig his puttin' together. ! ;)
I hope that there is a good owner's manual ;D.
The owner will be all manual. :D
The future owner/operator's name is Manuel?! :o
Quality hand-made machine that'll outlast any commercial unit and cheap foreign labor??? :D
Something tells me that's a no-no.... :D
All jokes aside, can I ask where you ever got the idea for this project? I like a good challenge as much as the next guy but that really is something.
Made from wood, so I got dreaming and decided why not. That's the short of it. 8) 8) 8)
Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 12, 2012, 03:26:56 AM
Made from wood, so I got dreaming and decided why not. That's the short of it. 8) 8) 8)
Would the long version of that story involve the first name of the new Mrs. SD? ;)
Clark
You better be wrappin' this project up, it's almost brush cuttin' time ;D
Yeah! and you've been couped up so long I'm startin' to worry about you. :D
Had a comment today that I must be living in the shop. :D 8)
Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 12, 2012, 10:19:30 PM
Had a comment today that I must be living in the shop. :D 8)
I take it you told her it only seemed that way...
Herb
Nah, I live part of the year in the shop. ;D
Fly-Shuttle Beater Complete!
Shuttle box:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom_beater2.jpg)
Tie-up:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom_beater3.jpg)
A little video for your enjoyment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjKxcNuW9s
Show me the way! :)
Sorta like ping pong. ;D
Yeah, for sure. It's not actually used repetitively in that way. I was just seeing how stable it was on the race. She never jumped track once. The way it works is the treadles are stepped on that open the shed (some shafts go up, some down). Then you fling the shuttle across. This is finished off by pulling the beater toward you to beat the weft firm to the weaving. The weft yarn is what the shuttle carries. The yarn that is 90 degrees to that (the warp) comes through the reed and over that front beam and down to the lower beam below the beater, then on down to the cloth roller along with the weft you have beat, now combined as a weaved cloth.
So where did you learn how to weave cloth Donk? This is a really cool project.
Self taught and still learning ;D with help of books and a weavers forum. It kinda feels like learning to play piano with all this cord and contraptions. :D
Still sanding here and then the application of the finish(s).
Price a 60" Glamikra vertical countermarch and a fly-shuttle beater for the fun of it. That's just for starts. :D ;)
Finished up the loom and am now erecting it in the house. This morning I put on the roller Texsolv cords and tie-on sticks.
This is a special needle that I crafted from 1/8" brass rod. There is a notch that carried the cord as you pass the needle through the roller holes. Holes are 7/32 diameter. Patent pending. (Just kidding of course) ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Beam-cord1.jpg)
Warp roller:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Beam-cord2.jpg)
Cloth roller:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Beam-cord3.jpg)
Sufficient cord was used to wrap around the beams, then on to within 2-3" of the reed.
Very pleased with my rollers and ratchet system as well as the Texsolv cords as recommended.
Meanwhile I made this warp stick catcher. As you unwind the warp during the weaving process these stick drop from the roller. This catcher keeps things tidy. ;) Threaded 3/4" maple dowel was used. Made the dowel and the threads myself. The catcher is mounted on the lower cross beam of the loom with screws.
Threaded dowel:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_warp-catcher1.jpg)
Catcher with warp sticks:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_warp-catcher2.jpg)
Warp sticks are sanded smooth, but not finished. They are left bare to minimize slippage on the warp roller.
Have a good one. :)
Looks nice SD.
So have you ever run a loom before?
Nope, but about to get my feet wet.
I've joined a support group. :D :D
Amazing work
How did you thread the dowel?
If you don't mnd me asking
Beall Thread box from Lee Valley, I got the whole kit that also includes the taps for the threads into a hole.
Measured off all the warp today on the warping mill (that's in here a few pages back). Put full 215 yard skeins onto spools I made this week and used 4 end passes (warp ends) to speed it up. Just have to watch how they lay as you make the cross to keep the order of the threads and use a string to count every 10 passes (10 passes of 4 ends = 40 ends of warp). I had to have about 10 skeins and it seemed to work out as calculated. Also, I found I can wind a full skein onto 5 pirns.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_spools.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_loaded-spools-rack.jpg)
Warp chains.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_warp-chains.jpg)
Made 8 extra pirns yesterday. Some here from the bunch.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_extra-pirns.jpg)
Ready to spread the warp and tension it on the rear warp roller tomorrow. 8)
:D Spring is here SD... better hurry!! :D
Wow. She sure is gonna be twitterpated when she sees the completed project, SD. Nice work. :)
Quote from: Clam77 on March 28, 2012, 09:23:38 PM
:D Spring is here SD... better hurry!! :D
We had a little snow today and some tonight I suppose. That'll calm things down. :D
You guys got snow? We had a dusting a couple days ago but then it got up near 40 F, and all melted in a hurry.
An inch, but most of it is gone or will be gone today.
Been averaging in the 70's here - unheard of for this early in the year. No snow.. :D
Spreading the warp with the raddle (spreader) and lease sticks, checking for errors before beaming onto the back roller under tension. The warp ends are weighed with heavy books when working along. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Spreading-warp.jpg)
Never mind about the snow, lots of time to cut brush. ;D
Wow man.....
This project is more than a project it's a full time job too :D :D :D
Nice work Donk ;D
Placing in warp sticks to protect the warp from the beam cords and for maintaining an even tension on the roller. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/tension-warp2.jpg)
With the beaming done, the ends of the warp are cut and bunched into 8 threads with a slip knot to keep track of the sequence of threads. The lease sticks remain in place with tie-on cord to the back beam to aid threading and hold tension. The raddle is removed.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD-bunches-of-8.jpg)
Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 31, 2012, 05:14:37 PM
With the beaming done, the ends of the warp are cut and bunched into 8 threads with a slip knot to keep track of the sequence of threads. The lease sticks remain in place with tie-on cord to the back beam to aid threading and hold tension. The raddle is removed.
Are you sure this isn't a quote from a Gene Roddenberry screen play?
Warp drive, Scottie!!!
Hurry or we'll be weft behind. :D
I know Jeff, You'd need a dictionary in front of you for some of this stuff. Weavers have a language of their own. Forestry is bad enough. ;) And yes in deed I was thinking Star Trek to. :D :D
The warp threads, they run the length of your project, like a blanket. That's all them threads are so far. Basically half the threads required for the blanket if the weaving is balanced (warp:weft).
The lease sticks are used to hold a cross in the threads that was created when measuring off the warp on the warping mill. This happens when you make the loop around the turning point (a peg) and return to the start forming a figure 8. The lease has to be tied and always maintained to know the sequence of the threads or it would be a tangled mess of knots.
I put up the shafts here (4, with a pair of bars per shaft). On the shafts are attached the heddles (the eye for the warp threads to pass). The heddles make your pattern or weave structure along with the treadling sequence. This blanket will use a 4 shaft, 4 treadle draft and create a twill weave. Specifically, birdseye twill.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_threading-heddles.jpg)
The first shaft is the one to the back, nearest the back beam. In this draft the first thread has to be put through the first heddle in shaft 1, thread 2 in heddle 1 of shaft 2 (the next shaft forward toward the chair). ;D
First repetition in the pattern is threaded, each rep has 22 warp ends (threads). Thirty-two reps to go. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_heddle-sequence.jpg)
:D I'm gonna congratulate you on just being able to build the thing.. makes me dizzy just reading all that.. :D
Be interesting to see what kind of a blanket you end up with though if you're gonna try it with colored threads.. 8)
Ikea from scratch! :P :P :P
Birdseye twill. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_birdseye-weave.jpg)
I have some errors in the weaving, but my biggest issue is crowding in the dents of the reed. I went 12 ends per inch and should have stuck with 8 ends. Also the edges, I would stay in a couple inches on the ends of the reed. And I could have done a better job on the tension. But, some of that issue was having to reglue the roller shaft.
As with anything learn by mistakes and improve as you go. 8) 8) 8)
An update picture:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD-dressed-loom.jpg)
I did finish the weaving on the blanket yesterday. ;)
An upgrade to the loom will be steel ratchet wheels. ;)
That is amazing, SD. Seriously amazing. Can we see some more pics of the finished weave? Also, I'd love to see a video of the final piece fully functional while someone works it.
The video is just a couple picks with the shuttle. Crowding of the reed prevented a consistent smooth error free throw of the shuttle. I would cut the set from 12 to 8 epi to get a better shed with this weight of wool with a heavier set of 10 ends per inch (epi) for the picks (weft). Also caused selvedge troubles (edges).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJuluEHibE
Finished throw.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_wool-blanket.jpg)
Still not half bad, but won't win any contests. ;)
That is one great task that you have done. I am sure that you feel great about yourself and so you should. I like it. bg
Great job!
Now that we've seen how it unfolds...... ::)
How does it fold back up? ;)
WOW! That really is something to be proud of SD, I hope we get to see a longer video of it working. Very nice work!
Very cool SD!
Quote from: beenthere on April 07, 2012, 10:58:45 PM
How does it fold back up? ;)
The only folding is of the blankets. ;D
As to the video(s) they will have to wait for a bit. ;)
Thanks for all the compliments along the journey. :)
Very well done, I now know you have way more patience then me :D :D
You know once you have a bunch of warp on, a full length blanket could be weaved in 2 days. Now they would be 8-10 hr days because of the pirn winding that has to disrupt the weaving every 3 reps of the weave pattern or so. So if a fella wants to do a bunch of blankets, decide how many for that weave structure, and just cut each length off as it's weaved. 8)
Wow, Donk, that is very impressive!!
Too COOL......I like it!
On Sunday, the throw ended up in someone else's hands. ;D
Thanks.
We knew all along that she would like it.
Donk, you old romancer you! smiley_love
This has been a totally amazing project. I truly admire your craftsmanship as well as your dedication to perfecting each detail. smiley_thumbsup
It works, too 8).
Not only that, it's not really all that complicated. The only hard thing is the fact there are no modern plans. So you have to study books and the net and ask experienced weavers like on the forums. They are just as helpful as FF members. ;D
I have a couple little modifications to carry out next season. But, not being familiar with the forces involved you learn as you go. Of course a little stubbornness sometimes gets in the way of experience. ;)
I have been giving demos of the loom to family. A couple more dropping bye in the morning. Some have scratched their heads over how it works. Others still want to come see. :D
I would be doing a "show and tell" also. :)
Inspiring work Donk!!!!!
Congradulations!
Jim
If you have any Amish communities in the area you might invite them over for a test run/improvment ideas. They still use looms such as that here in some of the Amish places and I'm sure they'd clue you in on ways that make it's use easier and more efficient. ;)
Excellent work btw!! ;D
As a couple 30 year experienced weavers told me. Each type of loom works like a system that can not be pieced together with ideas from other types of looms and expect to work properly. There are no short cuts, until you have learned the ways of that loom. ;) There are no Amish here in NB. But there are similar groups that live the simpler life. Myself, I am no tourist of such places. They live their lives in piece as do I. ;) If I want to see some of the old ways, I can go visit Kings Landing Historical Settlement in Prince William. But I have never seen any looms there, just spinning wheels.
There is an old loom they say in a nearby town that was used up until the folks got old. The folks that are in possession of it said they have no idea how it goes together or works. I have not seen it.
A new video to add to the thread. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6PFcNYCgtc
Real, real nice, Donk. My wife is so impressed with your loom. She has 4 now in her collection that she uses so I'm used to the noises the loom makes. I like the "fly" particularly.
She's a member of a spinning and weaving guild in our county and they're all great friends and a tremendous resource to each other. We do have a lot of Amish in Ohio but don't see a lot of weaving from them. Their plain and simple is pretty basic and not of the complexity the Guild leans towards.
Maybe there's a guild near you.
Great job! ;D ;D
Very cool SD!
You could get into a rhythm with that thing.
Lud, your wife might be hinting at a new fly attachment. ;D By the sounds of things she's addicted to weaving. On a forum I visit, those ones that are "hooked" have 2 or more looms of different types. I built the countermarche because it is very versatile. If your ambitious enough you can even build (buy) an attachment for a draw loom that gives you capability to make all kinds of patterns. With all the "draws" involved, they sure take a lot of time to set up though. ;D
Thanks all.
All of this loom stuff is so over the top for me. I have really enjoyed watching your skills and it has been an eye opener for sure. You have my admiration for sure Sir.
Lud, the weavers are too scattered about the country here for a local guild. If I look online on the national level, NS is the only Maritime province listing any guilds. I know one exists in Fredericton, but that's too far away to be local. I only know of a couple weavers just because of trade shows or events they weave for. And they are retired, nothing to live off of. Chances are it would be a long time selling much of anything locally.
MM, like Jeff said some of the terms are like reading Gene Roddenberry novels. But it's just a simple machine driven by the weaver's power. ;D
8) 8) That is an incredible machine you built there, swampdonkey. My mind is still trying to figure out how it works.
Your loom room looks pretty tight. Did you design it for that space? I like the rocking bench. ;)
Only in width and depth of the loom, but ideally a fella should have another 6 feet on either end of the loom. Unfortunately, these old farm houses weren't designed with looms in mind. My mother walked into the room and said, this room is small. ;D :D :)
Good work Donk, outstanding really.
Looks like you'll be needing a New project.
So SwampDonkey,
You got a set of updated plans for that contraption? I'm sure you could sell...er...give them away to all your pioneering woodworker/mill owner online friend who might want to tackle a project like this!
Seriously though, if you would like to market plans, I have the ability to create computer solid models and drawings...
The wood working projects I do are just to keep me from going crazy in the winter. ;D I don't have plans to the loom. I just went by websites and researched a little. The loom bench was just studying photos online. The winder for the pirns was just a concoction of mine after looking at examples online. The rest is from Worst's "Foot Powered Loom Weaving" on the internet archives or weaving sites. There is no swift plans in there, but just a picture. Plus I looked at current swifts on the market online and they haven't changed in 100 years. Other than the fact that there is more than one style of swift, as there are looms. ;D The video I uploaded was during the making of the latest throw I just finished yesterday. I have to wait for the weather to dry up to "full" it in the washer and dry it outside. Gonna be wet all week.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_wool-throw2.jpg)
Nice throw. PatD just finished watching the video. :)
Nice. That will come in handy this winter. bg
Quote from: Bill Gaiche on June 25, 2012, 10:56:24 PM
Nice. That will come in handy this winter. bg
Fall, spring and half the summer. :D
MM, a couple half days to weave once the loom is warped (those white threads running through the reed). Then hand sowed the ends with a large needle and wool yarn.
I like weaving with wool, it's warm and it's cheap and local. ;D
Quote from: SwampDonkey on June 20, 2012, 04:06:22 AM
Lud, your wife might be hinting at a new fly attachment. ;D .
She's never complained about the current one! ;) ;) ;) Wink's as good as a nod to a blind man, eh? :D :D :D
The bench I built her has a seat that rolls side to side on the big Glimakra. It's a 8 harness. The seat top moves to where the problem is and covers the tool box.
We drove to Philly last June to get a Mighty Wolf loom that she thinks is the best. She also has a couple of table top looms.
Maybe you should look at building a spinning wheel next winter. Satisfyingly complex enough for a man of your talents, I'd say. 8)
Got two already of great grandmother's. They are either at my uncle's or the town museum. I won't be spinning though, hard to get wool any cheaper than $3.75 all spun, processed and skeined (4 oz). ;D
Ah, so she's all set with all those looms. She has the affliction then, more looms and shuttles than a man has rifles, tractors, and chainsaws. :D
I really am amazed Donk,excellent craftmanship in both wood and wool 8)
Jim
If I want to add shafts, I can accommodate probably 4 or 8 more with some modification to the width of the jacks and the rollers. Right now I have 8, but my current weaving is with just 4, so I took the extra (upper and lower) lamm bars and shafts off. I could remove the knuckles between the treadles and place 4 or 8 more on.
Thanks
Added my new steel ratchets I had custom made in Sault Ste Marie, ON.
Warp Roller
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom-ratchet3.jpg)
Cloth Roller
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Loom-ratchet2.jpg)
Nice. How does it work and sound now?
Letcha know. ;D
Anyhow, here is a tartan I wove a few weeks back using acrylic.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_tartan-table-mat.jpg)
That's pretty DanG cool, SD.
I'm working on a sampler that uses weft floats, giving a 3D appearance. The first few reps I discovered I have not got enough set, so I am starting over.
Here it is with the proper set (12 epi with 2 ply wool).
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_mirror-twill.jpg)
I was told this is called a "4 end advancing twill with mirror". In the draft, a group of 4 warp ends advances forming a bell curve and the treadling sequence follows the same path, making a mirrored effect. There are long floats making the weaving puffy. Would make a great afghan for a couch. Could even change weft colors (the weaving threads) every vertical block, there are 3 blocks wide (3 X's). This is also a reversible fabric. Some fabrics have a right side you are suppose to see and a wrong side, that would be hidden. This is good on both sides. That's what I mean by reversible.
That looks neat SD.. I'm thinking it'd make a great anything. ;)
I like that 3-D pattern like that.. livens it up to bring out people's curiosity. :)
I'm thinking auction item for next years pigroast ;D. My wife crochets and if she ever sees your 3D afghan I may have to build her one of those contraptions....on second thought, do you hire out? ;D
My wife says your Overdraft is great. .....but where do you get already spun yarn that cheap? She can't get free alpaca fleece processed at that rate. Is it a Canadian source?
She's thinking she may have to visit!! :o ::) ::)
Those are really neat projects, swampdonkey.
Is this something you have always wanted to do? Reading your posts about this craft has me confused. It may as well be in another language. :)
Quote from: metalspinner on August 13, 2012, 08:02:54 AM
Those are really neat projects, swampdonkey.
Is this something you have always wanted to do? Reading your posts about this craft has me confused. It may as well be in another language. :)
Well, he
IS Canadian, so he already speaks a different dialect (and if you think his is something, you should hear my In-Laws who are from Newfoundland...). And of course any specialty has its own jargon.
Herb
OK, but in SD's defense, I had a very long winded conversation with him at the Pig Roast and I imagine that he probably had difficulty understanding me. I had none understanding him.
I do regret that the weaving subject did not come up......neither did grits.
Quote from: Magicman on August 13, 2012, 01:51:13 PM
OK, but in SD's defense, I had a very long winded conversation with him at the Pig Roast and I imagine that he probably had difficulty understanding me. I had none understanding him.
I do regret that the weaving subject did not come up......neither did grits.
I can't imagine MagicMan being long winded, but then again, he does always seem to have a few words to say about anything.
Herb
SD is not a serial serious grits basher.
Them southerners will try to stick those grits in any thread.. any... ::)
LOL
Quote from: Lud on August 13, 2012, 07:34:36 AM
My wife says your Overdraft is great. .....but where do you get already spun yarn that cheap? She can't get free alpaca fleece processed at that rate. Is it a Canadian source?
She's thinking she may have to visit!! :o ::) ::)
For some reason I only get a few of my notifications from the forum, so I had not seen the posts in this one for weeks since I posted to it. ;)
Lud, here is the draft for that twill. One thing I do that is not shown there is I end on treadle 1 (far right).
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_overshot-draft.jpg)
We don't have *.wif file format setup to attach the weaving file to the forum.
Yarn at Briggs and Little (http://www.briggsandlittle.com/wool)
They are 4 oz skeins. The mill is about an hour from me, but I buy from a local vender.
I am also told that the floats on this particular draft are a little long for afghans because they can catch buttons on your your shirt. It is suggested that the float be no longer than 3 ends wide. So a little modification by using 5 end twill instead of just 4 will solve it. ;)
Quote from: SwampDonkey on August 30, 2012, 03:35:23 AM
We don't have *.wif file format setup to attach the weaving file to the forum.
That's because there are some images the .wife's probably don't need to see.
I upgraded the shuttle boxes with thicker fenders of 3/16" SS so they are stiffer Also a the boxes have greater range of motion along the race and now are a little taller. The boxes will now allow a weave as narrow as 45". A weave narrower than this would be done with hand shuttles, which I am making now.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_loom-fender.jpg)
I am also purchasing a finer reed (16 dent) to do some wide blankets in double weave. One method of double weave allows the weaver to make two layers with the fold on one side, the other open. Since I have 8 shafts, 4 will weave the upper layer (right half of the blanket) and 4 will weave the lower in a mirrored fashion to make the left half of the blanket. Since I will begin with a twill with both sides the same, it makes no difference for the treadle tie-up. ;) The finished sett will be 8 ends per inch in 2-ply wool, but this has to be doubled to account for the bottom layer, so it will be 16 epi in the reed. :)
That all makes perfect sense to me!
Me too, smiley_dizzy but this is such an interesting thread (pun unintended). I have been totally amazed with the build and the weaving process. :P smiley_thumbsup
Reading the last post almost put a (16 dent) in my head!
I carved up this boat shuttle and turned a bobbin to hold the yarn. It's side fed.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Boat-shuttle.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_boat-shuttle2.jpg)
It's 15" long, 1-3/4" wide, 1-3/8" tall. The bobbin is 6".
SD, this is a pretty cool project you have on your hands.
I think the phrase busier than a "one armed paper hanger" could be replaced with "a weaver with a backlog"
Bill, "You're a hoot" as they used to say. I sort of know what you're saying as my wife talks that weaving language all the time.
I'm sure she'll appreciate your response when she gets back from Italy in a couple of weeks. She and her sister go over to see their folks who are elderly and in care. Rosanna was born there and both are fluent. They have some fun on these duty trips but it's mostly about family.
I was over a couple of times years back but nowadays it's more important for the folks to see their daughters every year so I "hold the fort" while they're gone. We Skype to stay in touch. Pretty amazing to talk to and see someone halfway around the world! :)
Lud, yes the internet is pretty amazing if you have the speed. ;)
Anyhow, I was talking/reading some posts from the experienced weavers on a forum I joined and they said paper/cardboard quills feed much better than wooden bobbins. Bobbins tend to jam and cause the weft to draw too much tension at the edge of the cloth (selvedge). So, anyway I am just experimenting with shapes and will likely just go with quills. ;D
Here's another, but 11" long this time, with paper 4" quill.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_boat-shuttle5.jpg)
This time I made a paper quill by rolling card stock around the diameter of my pirn winder.
This is Lud's wife back from Italy. I am gobsmacked at your work. Not only are you a great craftsman, you are a weaver!!!! It is so great to see a male weaver. You know that in the early years of weaving, men were the only weavers - now it is just the opposite.
In your overdraft do you use a tabby after every pattern shot??? That would hold your wefts down.
I do like your shuttles - they are primo - have you thought of selling them??? Shuttles can go for as much as $60 - $85. I personally like the plastic bobbins over wood and quills.
Keep weaving RGL
Hi Mrs, welcome home.
I have only woven a swatch in that draft. I never used a tabby. But, I am new to weaving to. ;)
At this point I prefer the quills, I have not tried plastic bobbins. With the wooden ones, it's a little tricky to line up the hole dead centre as your boring the hole. I do think the key is to leave some side to side room for the unwinding of the bobbin (or quill) to move back and forth and also to make a rounded tip like a cone to cut down on friction with the edges. Have not messed with making them too much at this stage. But the bobbin will move with the way it was wound on. Anyway, all in fun. Right now I'm searching for some fine merino for shirt material. Halcyon has 2/18 which with sett of 24-28 in twill. I would like finer, but seems it's more for industrial users like from Amtex Canada.
Well, we're all set now.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_spin-wheel.jpg)
Now, where are those darn sheep? ;D
Watch out for old Rumpelstiltskin :).
Sheep's life in NB is in jeopardy for sure. :o
that's nice. I like the turnings.
What is the finish?
Dan 'ole boy that was made two centuries ago, not by my hand. ;)
:-) everything I said is still applicable!
The wheel I know was red oak and the rest is hard maple. And the red oak was slow grown and the rays less conspicuous than most red oak your used to. In a couple segments I can see the ray figure to know it's not ash. And one segment with end grain shows rays that are not real wide, but too revealing to be ash.
That's pretty awesome.
Ok, the moment has come to weave a full width queen blanket, actually two will roll off this same warp. The tie up of the treadles are different because of the pattern difference.
The draft
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Dble-Weave-Holly-Twill-8.jpg)
Here is a photo of both layers of the first blanket being woven. The photo here is of the right side. The other side is at the fold.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Dbl-Weave-Blk4.jpg)
Top surface on the loom. This is the "reverse" side of the blanket.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Dbl-Weave-Blk5.jpg)
Magic is all I can say. ;D 8)
That is very cool!
Looks like you're taking this winter off compared to last years project.
Nice blankey. :)
Very nice Swampy. If I'm repeating a question, I apologize......but do you sell your blankets or do they go to family and friends? Again....nice work! smiley_thumbsup
At some point in time I intend to set something up for sales. I do have one blanket already on request for sale to a family member. At the moment it's been immediate family that gets the weaving. They're my practice subjects. ;D I have that sale blanket along with another for some friends that will be on a different warp. I have a bunch of tartan scarves to weave up next. Last week did some cotton dish towels. They left here and I never seen them since. ::)
Here's a red one, the others were green
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_towel6.jpg)
The current blanket and the towels were my own designs. The next blanket to follow is just a herringbone twill, but also double weave (double width).
This entire process has been so fascinating. :)
It's also possible to weave a tube or sleeve with this technique, with both edges closed. You could sew one end and make a pillow case or covers for cushions and sew both ends.
Another technique is weave a background with an over lay in a different weave.
You are not even limited to two layers. If you have the shafts, say 12, you could weave a blanket with two folds or maybe a very wide bolt of cloth. Or maybe more practical, if your loom is quite narrow it could be done to get the width.
Keep going on this , I find it very instructive, even if I am having a hard time following the terms :D But a goooogle search gets me back on track real quick ;) :) :)
SD, this has been a very cool project to follow. You make me want to purchase a loom with all the trimmings, quit my stressful job in IT, and do what you are doing. Not sure it would generate enough wealth to sustain my family, though. And then there is the learning curve you are going through.
It could be an income supplement, but not a living. You need to become known before your even talking about any kind of income from it. And that takes a lot of time. Where I am from here there would not be much of a market for hand wovens. Your competing against cheap, so you have to produce something real special. Like the figured boards a sawyer keeps to one side. ;)
Kinda like woodworking :).
If anyone wants to delve into loom weaving (for them or spouse) there is a very functional countermarch loom that produces great results and not all that expensive to put together, very cheap. Andreas Moeller of Germany has been in the 3rd world promoting his Flying-8 foot powered loom with great success. He has building plans for sale. There are many Youtube videos to. It's not a spit and polish design, but gets the job done very well. :)
http://www.moeller-hamburg.com/c/English
I think the German site has more detail.
I know a lot of the experienced weavers over on Weavolution who have commercial made looms, think quite highly of it. Many of them are loom distributors.
That being said, every time I take a short break on the loom I look at the maple figure and grain on this one of mine and say wow. There is actually quite a bit of eye in some of the wood that really came out when planed. I've tried taking photos of it and it just don't come out. :) My uncle saw it and said this must have been expensive wood and I never told him that it was not sold as figured wood. Granted it was all select and better.
Got my dish towels back, and they do a fine job wiping dishes I might say. :)
It's time consuming and really a limited market as far as sales .However one of my apprentices who just happened to be female was a hand weaver .
She got paid pretty handsomely for her work .
She belonged to some organization .I think it was called the spinners and weavers guild.
Al, in long dark evenings of winter and with TV being what it is these days, a person needs a good hobby. Even better if it pays once in awhile. ;D :D Everyone used to crack jokes about basket weaving, never heard anyone remark about fabric weavers. ;) :D
I think it was 'underwater basket weaving' they were joking about. :)
Finished the first blanket yesterday. It shrunk to 86 inches when air dried. There was 5 threading errors (sequence in the heddles) and a few skips, but nothing serious. I'm going to pull these current heddles off the shafts and use some longer ones on the next blanket. I'm doing this the get a more open shed where the shuttle goes back and forth. The fold line is near the back rim of the couch, it didn't quite full in, might with another wash. The next blanket I'm going to try it without the extra cotton threads at the fold.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Christmas-Blnk3.jpg)
close-up
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Christmas-Blnk5.jpg)
Nice work, Bill. But , you know, a true weaver will pull out yards of fiber to correct a miscue! Ionly say it cause I see it all the time! ;) ;)
I was always told to keep on weaving. :D
have you done any work with wool?
wool blankets are awesome
Yup, all my blankets and throws are made from pure wool from the local mill. The cotton warp used at the fold are removed. They use 4 cotton threads at the fold in double weave because draw in. From my new experience with this, I'm going to weave the next one without. I've also replaced the heddles with longer ones to open the weaving space (shed) wider. Hopefully it will help with the skips. :)
Wow Donk...... This whole project has had my head spinning ::) ::)
Wool blankets. Nice and warm........
I bow down to you...you are the master of all trades.... :D :D
This was another blanket I wove last month. The color bands were regular twill, I just reversed each color. The white is herringbone. This was also a queen in double-ply wool. They are heavy blankets similar to Hudson's Bay Point Blankets. There's about 10 lbs of wool used to make'm. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_herringbone-twill.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_herringbone-twill-2.jpg)
The ends are blanket stitched by hand.
very nice
Showed the wife and she was impressed with your blanket. Said, "Good for him!"
I built another bench for her big loom last month. A bit lighter and used the UHMW plastic for slider feet. Made it on the same scale as the earlier bench which was too heavy . But the seat was good as it was mounted on skateboard wheels and slides 5' side to side which helps on the big Glimakra loom.
Beautiful work, SD!
That would certainly help if her reach isn't wide enough for the loom.
I went a little over the top and did a sample with polyester thread at 64 epi. Later I'm going to see what 80 epi looks like. Testing it out for liner fabric. I know you can buy it, but that's no fun. ;D
Each of those 1/16" marks has 4 threads between. I think I can pack one more thread in there to make the 80. ;)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Plain-Polyester.jpg)
I have more of those blankets that need done for Christmas.
Which Christmas?
;D
Is there a list we can get on?
This Christmas actually. :D Will be weaving them up next week, two on the same warp. :)
That is just SO cool! You are very talented in many ways!
Here's an old Colonial pattern pillow case called "Braddock's Defeat". It was an old battle I guess and I take it he was defeated. Wove it like a tube and closed the ends. Stuffed it with a washable polyester pillow. Made two. Structure is overshot and lace.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Braddock-pillow2.jpg)
In the shop now working on sectional beams for the warp roller. Will look about like a combine. ;D Followed by a tension box to use with it. :)
Have a good one. ;)
Tension box with counter for sectional attachments I'm making for the warp roller at the back. I have made a couple 8 dent combs there until I get serious and get a couple 16 dent combs from LeClerc's. You can notice I'm missing a piece of spring wire that goes across the front comb so the yarn doesn't jump a dent, although I can't see how it would under tension. One on the back comb if you look hard. The package of Monkey Picture hanger wire was missing one wire from which that missing wire was to come from. It wasn't cheap for a bit of nothing, then to find out I got cheated. :-\ Also have an in-line clamp coming for attaching the box to the beam. Right now, just a C clamp for testing. The counter there is from an old busted string box. Never throw stuff away that works. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_tension-box.jpg)
Video up
http://youtu.be/CCcv-dcjXts
I've been working the last few days on a new spool rack for sectional warping on my loom. So far I have the frame all jointed with mortise and tenon and ready for glue up. A spool rack is a spool rack I suppose. This one will hold 144 - 3" spools and made of hard maple. It is 78" to the top of the cross member and the feet are 24" long by 5" wide and 1-1/4" thick for stability. I think it will have enough weight to stay put. I will begin tomorrow at cutting slits in the middle upright and holes on the outside uprights for dowel rod to hold the spools.
Picture is of the rack free standing with no glue up yet.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Tall-spool-rack.jpg)
I've made 80 of these 3" spools.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_spools2.jpg)
:) Been busy I see. smiley_thumbsup
The cold wind is howling and the glaciers are moving :D.
Looking good, SD.
Cut the slots and drilled the holes for the dowels to sit and cut 48 feet of 3/8" dowel rod. All glued up, a waiting for it to set up. Just sat the spools in there for show. ;D
All ready for some Shellac tomorrow.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Tall-spool-rack2.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Tall-spool-rack3.jpg)
Someone told me I'd never use a dowel cutter, just a novelty item. Wrong!! I've cut close to 70 feet in this project alone. Nice to just go out in the stash and get a dowel rod or the means to make one. :D
I have been putting together some sectional dividers for my loom warp roller. Currently, I have applied one coat of linseed/turpentine mixture and will apply one more later. These sections are 61-3/4" long and a tie-on dowel rod is 60" long, 3/4" diameter. The dowel rod will seat into clothesline hooks that are ?-shaped. It will be set up so that the rod will hold the loop cord from the roller until the end at which point the rod will be pulled free of the hooks to weave the last 2 yards of warp up to the heddles.
The sections are SS rod bent on a forming block to a U shape by hand and inserted into spaced holes made by a drill press so depth is consistant and straight. Holes are drilled in the beams to attach to the roller. My roller is octagon shaped so the pieces will fit to a flat surface. The U rods are spaced so that 1" of space is between the U's, within a 1/32" and seated 1/2" into the wood. The U's are 3-1/4" tall above the wood and the wooden beams are 2-1/2" tall. On my roller this gives me a yard per revolution. Also, I cut my own dowel rod on my Veritas dowel cutter with kilned hard maple. Smooth as glass.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_sectionals.jpg)
A close-up of some of that ray figure.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_sectionals2.jpg)
I will attach these to the warp roller in a day or two.
Donk, I was watching an older episode of the Big Bang Theory yesterday, and it reminded me of you. ;) :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L1nunyHMp8
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country".... Great :-\ I can't see it. I have been getting more of these stoopid messages with youtube type videos lately, hate being scensured, I can decide for myself what I want or not want to see.
A video of Sheldon wrapped in a blanket I am sure I can take ..... ::)
I attached the sectionals to the roller today.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_sectionals3.jpg)
This will help place real fine yarn on the roller with even tension and no tangles. The tension box a few posts up helps in this process and it meters off the yarn length as it's wound on the roller. ;D
Quote from: Jeff on February 06, 2013, 12:33:39 AM
Donk, I was watching an older episode of the Big Bang Theory yesterday, and it reminded me of you. ;) :)
LOL LOL LOL !!! Awesome.
SD, your project continues to amaze me. I have almost no idea what some of the parts you've recently pictured are for. But I continue to be amazed!
Me too Donk, I don't comment much on this thread but read it every time it's updated. :)
My thought exactly. I am fascinated and in awe of your knowledge and craftsmanship. :)
Like others, I don't understand most of it, but I continue to enjoy seeing it progress. Incredible craftsmanship. :)
I'll have to do up a video in a few days with my new additions working in unison. Yip, all three additions will all work together. :)
Video Update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhSA8b4vkjc
On this project the cloth will be 10 yards long, 16.5" wide, with 24 threads (ends) per inch. That's over 4000 yards of thread. The cloth will be woven in sections, with breaks between every 24 inches, to make towels.
I open this thread up and have gone through it a few times yet and still have no clue to some of the terminoligie that you are using, I'm trying , I swear I am... :D :D :D Don't matter much as I like seeing this getting put together. :)
Showed your recent adds to my wife, the weaver, and she said, " Amazing!" 8)
Sectional warping? I read that and thought, "SD must be sawing elm" :D.
Good stuff there, SD 8)
I did have an elm sawed out once, it was a 20" (top) and 8' log I ended up with one board. The sawyer figured it was oak I think. I saw it stickered in his shed as I drove out to the gate. I said to myself, have a nice life. ;D The one board twisted like a cork screw for being a perfectly white, knot free log.
Latest weaving project is a peacock blue cotton bedspread of my own design. It is what they call an undulating twill. I will finish weaving this tomorrow.
The top 2/3rds of the photo is the underside of the cloth. The top side is showing below on the roller. You will noticed that the blue is 'reversed' from bottom to top side. But would look fine either way. There are nearly 1500 ends of thread, and 60" wide.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_bedspread7.jpg)
How much time does it take tomake that ....
I like the design, so that means the wife won't :D :D
The weaving part is probably 12-14 hours on this when it's done. The winding of the yarn onto the back roller takes a good day because I wind onto an equal number of spools to match the sett (threads or ends per inch). So if the piece in 4 yards long and you have a 60" wide weave for the cloth, with a sett of 24 epi, you need 24 spools with 240 yards per spool. I use a yardage counter, both to wind spools and then to wind onto the beam. If you don't you will probably miss a yard as your mind tends to think of other things by the time your onto the 10th inch, if not before. ;D Threading that many heddles can be done in a day and a half. After I wind each inch into the beam sectionals I run a piece of yarn through the ends to separate groups of threads into a 'cross'. This is done to keep the order of the yarn ends when threading the heddles and reed. Keeps threads from twisting and tangling into a mess. The reed took about 2.5 hrs to thread , I tied 3 threads per dent. My reed is 8 dents per inch, so that matches the sett of 24 epi. The time taken to tie on to the cloth bar was another couple or so. You have to adjust the tension most times when your tying on, because some of the first bouts get slack. Then I run cord, undulating through the ends where I tied on to even the threads out, takes about 10 minutes. Then it takes another 2 hours or so to tie up the treadles and harness with 8 shafts.
If you were doing production weaving you wouldn't bother winding spools as they come on spools or cones already. But since I'm a hobbyist, I buy small amounts and don't make work out of it. So I spread out the time. And also you would possibly weave 50 yards or more of cloth for several blankets or spreads.
In my case, time is of no consequence because I just do short projects and move onto the next creation. And just work at it a couple hours here and then. I don't do production weaving, so that increases set up time.
Once you get a piece off the loom, your not done, you have to take care of the ends. Like doing a fringe, a blanket stitch or hem or whatever.
As one fella put it, time well wasted. :D :D
That is all mind boggling to me......but very interesting. :)
I've got about another 20 inches to weave. Then finish up the ends.
Very impressive, SD. Very. Wish I could make the time to get into it.
Bill, You are pressing and impressing.!! I'll show this to Rosanna and she'll be gobsmacked! 8)
I really like the color and design, thanks for sharing it with us SD.
Thanks for all the fine comments. I've finished the main body and am now weaving a border/edging.
Very neat. You have way more patients than I will ever have.
Allan
Nice job, you are way over the top with skill :)
I applied this edging which I also weaved from the same cotton. I call the draft fleur-de-lis, it's a point twill. It's an easy treadling because you just go back and forth on the treadles. I also turned the draft since it's a long narrow weave, instead on wide. So 'up' is width wise. The pattern repeat is quite tiny. But creates a design of it's own.
This has some white weft (yarn carried by the shuttle) for the pattern. The sides of the piece had the same edging, but solid peacock.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_spread-border4.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_spread-border6.jpg)
Bill, when I saw this I knew you'd want to be aware of it! A possible modification could be contemplated to your excellent equipment! ;D ;D
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1887834975/tractorloom-tour
:) Now that will make you smile.
Couldn't load it Lud. Dial-up limitations. :-\
It's kind of silly, Bill. This lady is asking for money so she can travel around with this tractor rear end and frame but no hood or engine where a 4 harness jack loom has been mounted. She claims she will tour the eastern provinces and New England states. Probably hitting the county fairs. She's only gotten a tenth of her goal.....we're not contributing..... :D
The eastern provinces means Ontario and Quebec, they keep forgetting we live out here in the Maritimes. :D ;D Hard to picture the contraption she has. Maybe she shoulda mounted it on a broom stick and just road it. ;)
SD
You better try to hook up with this one. I think you two may just hit it off. ;)
Just google Tractorloom and you can prolly get her to swing by for a visit, no matter where you are. I'm sure her motives are good. She is thinkin outside the box.
Well just a quick search reveals it was built using award money from the Arts Council of the Southern Finger Lakes. I suppose if it's to bring awareness to weaving, that's one thing. It will certainly draw attention. I'm not so sure people would be drawn in more because of the spectacle or because of weaving. I'm thinking spectacle. :D
So..........doin' all that weavin' has made you near-sighted? And therefore you need spectacles? ;D ;D ;D
It's a spectacle, alright.
Quote from: Warbird on April 30, 2013, 03:12:09 AM
It's a spectacle, alright.
I always thought SD was too well ground(ed) to make a spectacle of himself! :D
Herb
Goldenrod table cloth
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_table-cloth-5.jpg)
The patterns are amazing. Near the bottom of the pic is a row of red thread that it's matched anywhere else in the pattern. Is that intentional, where you joined to pieces together, or was it a 'learning opportunity'? Or is it just an artifact of the pic?
It looks like an extra pick (weft shot) that should not be there. I mean wrong treadle was pressed when it was shot. Went unnoticed, otherwise you would reverse the shot to remove it.
This was another table cloth I began a few weeks ago. I have been away through the week and the weekends have been too hectic to do much on it. I will continue in a couple months after the heat of summer subsides.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_cranberry-cloth2.jpg)
This design comes from an old weaving book. The cloth is woven with 16/2 non merc. cotton and it's about 60" wide in the loom. There are about 1900 ground (warp) threads.
It is still a fascinating mystery to me. smiley_dizzy
Wow. I really like the pattern on that tablecloth.
Mom's table cloth.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_cranberry-cloth3.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_cranberry-cloth4.jpg)
Very nice.
That is nice. How many hours to do that ?
Hard to really say because I work a little on it every once in awhile. I know it was about an hour to weave 8 inches. If this were a 'production' piece your cost per yard would go down because you might weave 40 yards instead of a couple off the same threading. Threading takes quite a few hours for 1900 fine threads, but probably 24 hours.
I'm now working on a type of undulating cloth called cord, where there are hills and valleys making relief in the cloth. I'm just sampling with my yarns first. It will be heavy drapery.
That tablecloth turned out great!
The tablecloth is very nice. I just continue to be amazed. :)
This project involved creating a cloth with undulations. To enhance the effect there are channel threads between the bumps and padding threads behind.
Here it is on the loom. The bands of white are places I bound the padding to the cloth, otherwise it would be loosey goosey.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_cordweave2-plain2.jpg)
Washed and fulled here. Nice rolling cloth.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_cordweave2-plain3.jpg)
This is a second sample of two. I will be experimenting further, and see if I can get wider bumps.
I'm also truly amazed, very nice work! I can't imagine the time/patience it's taken to do and learn all this.
First I have seen this thread (har). ;D
Pretty cool, dude ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :snowball:
For name sake, the cloth is called warp cord. ;D
That's really cool, SD. When are you going into business? ;D
The man is way too busy to go into business :D
Kitchen table cloth done as a block weave with a tabby (plain weave) ground cloth. My own design, I call it autumn colors.
Miniature maple leaves.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Autumn-color.jpg)
Finished product
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_table-cloth-autumn.jpg)
I really need a cold mangle (looks like a ringer) to press the cloth and bring the pattern out. Anyone have a cold mangle for hire? ;) The plastic table cloth, that used to be on this table, went out to the trash. :D
And need some place mats, so working on that. Overshot weave, called Christmas Rose. Overshot technique also uses a tabby ground cloth, but the long floats of color threads make the patterning and half toning of the back ground. This particular draft is only good on one side, so the back side I am weaving with the same threading and tie-up, but different treadling sequence. The white line between the red and green is the fold. Three other edges need sewing.
Front
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Christmas_Rose.jpg)
Back
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_overshot2.jpg)
Oh, Christmas tree.... :)
This shows how patterning and halftone can be altered by changing how the treadles are tied up. Same threading, same treadling sequence.
The file names have numbers for % of pattern, background, and half tone. There's one (#3) with only 2 numbers that has no half toning. The patterning is the overshot areas (floats), the background is a plain white then red interlacing of plain weave, and the half toning is the areas of graduation in color effect. Overshot requires two shuttles, in this case one carries the ground weft (white) and the patterning and half toning is carried on the second shuttle. The patterning shuttle has to make two passes for every ground shuttle pass.
25 % half toning
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Christmas-rose-25-50-25.jpg)
50 % half toning
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Christmas-rose-25-25-50.jpg)
No half toning
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_Christmas-rose-25-75.jpg)
Yarn used in both projects is 100 % mercerized cotton, #10 - 2 ply (we call it 10/2 in the US or 2/10 in Canada). ;)
Also, to make this 8 shaft overshot I required a couple extra treadles to make the tabby ground cloth. So now my loom has 10 treadles. Expanding already. ;D
Nothing too exciting
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_2-loom-treadles.jpg)
And a shorter stretcher to prevent draw-in.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_small-temple.jpg)
That autumn colors tablecloth is amazing. What is the finished size?
Quote from: Warbird on December 10, 2013, 05:19:44 PM
That autumn colors tablecloth is amazing. What is the finished size?
65" long, 48" wide
Your tablecloths are amazing SwampDonkey. I just love to see items handmade by a person with your talents. I hope at some point in time you will pass your knowledge and equipment on to the next generation to keep the craft from being forgotten.
Wool Centennial Plaid
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_wool-plaid3.jpg)
Harrisville Shetland 2-ply
I did another video awhile back about the weaving process from a skein of yarn to a blanket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phLPh7Ne_tI
Very nice Swamp! smiley_thumbsup Liked the music too.
I got tired just watching the setup. :o My admiration goes to you Bill. :)
Things look like that they are looming large for you ;D.
Quote from: WDH on January 25, 2014, 09:04:57 PM
Things look like that they are looming large for you ;D.
smiley_trap_drummer
I will have to say, if swamp can do this, then he could make it to the moon and back. What an operation from the start of building the equipment to producing a very nice product. My hat is off to you for having the inspiration to have done this. I wonder just how many people in the world will ever do something like this again?bg
That's amazing. Thank you for the video. How long does just the setup take?
Set up has a lot of variables. Yarn, yardage, sett.... That particular blanket warp was on the loom in a couple days and tied-up ready to go weaving.
I'd love to see another video of the actual weaving. ;D
Quite a project to get set up even before you start weaving, well done on the video.
I would like to do a video sometime (don't know when with all the other stuff) of making warp pile on the loom with steel rods in place of the weft yarn every 3 or 4 picks to lift the yarn into a looped pile like with bath towels and face cloths. ;D
Bill, you da man. :)
Experimenting with terry cloth. Using some left over cotton yarns. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d5gwvUzAlI
Final results after hemmed and washed.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_facecloth4.jpg)
After this first sample, I have decided to modify the threading a little to increase the pile density slightly. Then I think it will be about perfect. :)
I wondered how it was done. Makes sense. :)
Yeah, when doing terry cloth the pile (green threads) have to be twice as long or more than the ground threads (white/orange). This is because those loops obviously take up the yarn quicker, so the ground and the pile need to be on separate beams. The pile has to be slacker, but just enough so it doesn't sag in the shed to snag on the shuttle when it passes. The ground has to be tensioned good to make good cloth.
That is exactly what I thought...... smiley_dizzy
Also, if you look at your bath linens, a facecloth has less loop density than a towel. The facecloth is for washing and the towel is for drying, thus the difference. Cotton loops are better at drying than if felted (by cutting the loops). ;)
Things are expanding. I visited Lee Valley for some clamps, and sanding/shaping aids, screws, panel connectors for setting up my second beam and roller on the loom and an in-line vise for my bench. I need one more stop later at the Leclerc loom distributor for a brake system for the new roller.
The ultimate challenge is building a draw bridge to weave more complex patterns. ;)
Wow, somehow I've missed this thread until now. Every time I look in the woodworking section I am impressed with the talent of folks on this forum, but this is amazing. I am having a hard time imagining the time skill and patience it took to build and operate this. SD my hats off to you. I have a hard time finding the patience to carve a spoon. ;D
You're new to the forum, so you have lots to dig up and read beyond the first pages of each board. ;D 8)
One roller isn't enough if two different grist yarns are used in the warp of a weave. So here is a second roller and beam. ;D This will handle pile and padding yarns which are not wove into the cloth with high tension. Example applications are bath towel pile and cord weave padding. The round pieces (half moons) in the middle are flanges that keep the yarn from slipping out and becoming more slack when weaving. They are adjusted along the beam width with wind nuts to match the weaving width. There is also a beam stick that sits in a groove to tie the yarn ends onto before winding. A pawl and ratchet are using when winding on the yarn and a spring tensor is on a drum brake for allowing the warp to advance while weaving under light tension. Tension of the drum brake will be adjusted by link chain and a coil spring.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_supplemental3.jpg)
Here is the brake. Already to apply the finish, once I disassemble it. ;D
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/SD_supplemental4.jpg)
Sure wish you lived closer. I'd love to see the loom being used and watch the patterns come to life.
After a few days of driving he would be only a short peice away on a big map. ;D
I'll need to make a longer video, once I get on broad band service. Won't take a lifetime to upload to YouTube. ;D
A local magazine called AgelessNB has written an article about my loom. It is published in the Summer 2015 edition. The magazine has a small circulation I think. But the site is here below. Maybe some NB folks have read the magazine. :)
http://www.agelessnb.ca
Pretty cool. ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :snowball:
Swamp,
I stumbled onto this thread somehow yesterday and finished it this am. I didn't watch any of the videos, just read all the posts. WOW, I wish there wasa way to "like" the whole dang thing, not just individual posts! Super impressive craftsmanship, even more impressive that you didn't have a real set of plans or drawings to work from!
Did you have to break that whole thing down to move it into the new house?
Did you ever end up getting caught up enough to do projects that you can sell?
Thanks for the compliment.
Yes, the loom all comes apart into a pile of sticks to move. The two side pieces are solid though. One man can move the loom, taken apart. One man can put it all back together.
I really don't weave to sell, but I have sold some pieces and given some away as gifts. I just like doing it, a good way to pass the winter days. If I was into selling it would make it like a job with deadlines and probably deal with stuff I don't need. I'm in the process of adding more stuff. Last winter I added a draw bridge (prototype) with a second harness. ffsmiley
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/drawbridge.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=357461)
So I could weave this 4 layer rug. I'm further along than this and I have got another inch to weave plus a header to put in place with waste yarn for when I finish off the ends.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/4-layer-rug-row2.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=352228)
I'm adding 8 more shafts to the front harness, I have the hardware all cut and planed, need to drill holes and sand. 750 holes.
Many thanks.
@GRANITEstateMP. Doing what you did, bringing up an old topic and making it new again by posting on it is the best way in the world to show how much you like or appreciate the amazing historical topics found only on the Forestry Forum.
I hope more members do it, and I encourage everyone to invite others from those social media sites that do not even know that these treasures are available and searchable for them to learn from and participate in.
Thanks for bringing this one back up!
Old Bertha has been made bare. She's going through an upgrade in the next few days. ffsmiley
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11009/bare-loom-upgrade.jpg) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=357490)
A Loom?
A Catio?
Edit: I thought this was a new thread and didn't see it was multipage. So at the end of the first page I guessed Loom and Catio. I was joking, but....
I'm in the process of adding twice as many levers (shafts, treadles, 2 sets of lamms, jacks) and pulleys. All those levers are just sticks with holes, 1 hole for the lever to pivot on a steel rod and the rest to hold cords. ffwave It's a simple machine in the end, just uses good old man power. Don't need electric power, put electricity is nice to have good light at night or snowy days. ffcheesy ffcheesy
Swamp, I have always been fascinated with the skein unwinder contraptions that expand to hold the yarn better than a grandchild. Have you ever made one of those? not sure if that is something you even use with a loom. My wife knits a bit. we have made bowls with a spiral groove in a side to let a ball of yarn unwind. Doc.
It's an umbrella swift, as you open it up it tightens the skein of yarn. It clamps to a table. Most of that yarn is for knitting. You can certainly weave with knitting yarns, but they are more elastic yarns which can be trouble when putting the yarn on the loom. No trouble if used on the shuttle to weave. If done carefully it will work as warp on the back roller. Weaving yarn is mostly on cones or spools, but silk weaving yarn comes as skeins, often not dyed. And some folks dye yarn and leave as 'chains' to sell to weavers. This is mainly because they measure it out on a device called a warping board, or a better mechanism is a warping reel that rotates. A board is stationary and slower. But a weaver will dye it or have it done for them. Often sold as 'kits'. Also there is a reel swift which has a squirrel cage reel up top and one on the bottom. To tighten it, wing nuts are loosened and you put distance between them. It stands on the floor.
I have used both of these types, made them. Umbrella swifts are simple to make, but they need to be light weight for winding off of and onto spools, pirns or quills that go in the shuttle being used to weave with. Too much friction or drag, makes some designs useless for weaving, but fine for knitting. There are a couple examples back a few pages in this thread. A reel swift needs to be on bearings. The one I built from an old text just has a 1/8" brass rod the cages rotate on. I've always planned to put mine on bearings, never got around to it. ffsmiley
I put most of my yarn onto the loom via a spool rack, tension box with counter and a beam with dividers (sections). The process is called sectional warping. Spools are wound off larger cones or spools, or spools purchased, but you need as many spools as you want the thread count to be in the reed. So if you want 30 ends to the inch, you need 30 spools. If you want 24 inches wide, sections are usually by the inch on the roller, you need 24 x the length of warp you'll be weaving off so you can fill each section, plus yarn loss from securing each section with knots, plus loom waste and % more for expected shrinkage when washed. Washing is the finishing process. There are various ways to get yarn in those sections, some do a section as a time off their warping board, some use a gadget called a warping wheel, which only needed one cone unless you have 2 or more colors. The longer the warp, the more efficient it is to use the spool rack and tension box. But if there are a lot of color changes, the wheel has an advantage. The colors may not land in the same spot in each section. If they simply alternate, that's no trouble at all for the spool rack method.
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From top to bottom.
18 treadles
16 lower lamms
16 upper lamms
16 jacks
48 shaft bars, enough to make 24 shafts.
Mounted the treadles and lamms and jacks over head. With a long pin in place in the jacks, I'm tying up the lower lamms to the top holes of the jacks. The pin holds the jacks vertical, the longest end of a jack is past the fulcrum point of a rod they are mounted on.
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16 shafts with heddles to thread yarn into. They will be distributed differently once the yarn is threaded, just depends on the path the yarn takes or which shaft it gets threaded in for the pattern. Got a project all figured up for a satin block design. That paper with the colors and numbers tells me the order each colored individual yarn lays in each section of the warp roller. I have to wind spools of yarn a measured yardage of each color so I can wind them on with a tension box that has a yardage counter. Each section of yarn gets tied in a couple groups onto that wooden rod below. Then the roller is turned and the section of yarn is wound according to the yardage with aid from the tension box with it's yardage counter. It has a set of combs in the box to spread the yarns, they wind on like a wide ribbon between section dividers, so the yarns don't slip out the edges. Those metal loops are the dividers.
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I've got the 16 shaft upgrade completed. I was held up for pegs and cordage to tie everything up. I'm working on a satin weave. It's an 8 shaft satin, but 2 blocks, thus 16 shafts. Using color effect makes it look more complicated.
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Loom upgrade and weaving a sample.
https://youtu.be/Rm58IA1aSZ8