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Title: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 02, 2004, 05:46:54 PM
Well we have Sunday Sawing and Saturday Sawing, I thought I would start Monday sawing. For me, its usually not a good thing so I thought we would start out with a little game.

Which of these things is not like the other? :-/


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Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: RMay on February 02, 2004, 06:23:22 PM
Jeff looks like a blue Monday for your saw is that a thirty penny nail  :o
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: WV_hillbilly on February 02, 2004, 06:41:04 PM
  where did the rest of the teeth go  ?
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 02, 2004, 06:42:20 PM
Thats about my guess. She's a big one. There were three in the log. busted most of the teeth off like the ones shown but never hurt anything else.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Kevin on February 02, 2004, 06:51:53 PM
You should really try to avoid those.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 02, 2004, 06:55:40 PM
I thought I did, heck I never touched the wheel rim and the garden hose that thing was holding up.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Kevin on February 02, 2004, 07:21:30 PM
If you catch a few of those half way through your shift do you get to quit early or do you have to stay late?
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: whitepe on February 02, 2004, 07:32:20 PM
What did it sound like when you hit those puppies?   :o
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Paul_H on February 02, 2004, 07:43:47 PM
Oh @%&#$%

Or something real close I'll bet. ;)
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 03, 2004, 04:09:34 PM
Its sounds just like hitting a little nail only louder. ;D    I would imagine the shrapnel either went through the pre-punched holes in the roof, or into the sawdust pile. The problem with breaking off teeth is that you can end up hitting them with other teeth before they clear out of the log. Kind of a chain reaction.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: D._Frederick on February 03, 2004, 04:47:02 PM
Jeff,

Was that a hundred dollar spike?
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: shopteacher on February 03, 2004, 04:53:21 PM
Oh, you boys grow um big in Michigan.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: J_T on February 03, 2004, 05:03:44 PM
Been expecting that to happen to me too. Man wanted me to saw a walnut for him said he knew thare was nothing in it ( just bought the place). Told him ok but when I finish I want you to pay to make my mill saw like it does now ;D He said you know it may have sompthing in it after all. All ready had my lesson in that dept. thankyou  :(
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: shopteacher on February 03, 2004, 05:10:25 PM
I hear ya JT.  Those logs never have anything in them until any damage and cost are about to come out of the log owners pocket.  I've had a few guys decide not to saw there logs here.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 03, 2004, 05:20:53 PM
QuoteJeff,

Was that a hundred dollar spike?

Counting downtime, loss of the log (tossed it, as that was the first cut) and a change of teeth, Yea, probably.

I'd sell it for $9.95 though. ;D
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: J_T on February 03, 2004, 05:38:06 PM
Jeff is that delevered? :D
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 03, 2004, 06:16:13 PM
Sure. You get whats left of the nail (see photo) and I'll throw those teeth fragments in too. Add 1.20 for insurance ;D
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: WV_hillbilly on February 03, 2004, 07:37:45 PM
  Don' t you have a metal detector on the incoming end of that mill ?    I thought that you did have one  .

  I guess that it's like a train wreck and you were the conductor .   ;D
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Norm on February 04, 2004, 03:37:48 AM
Boy oh boy that looks nasty, I jump a foot when I break a band blade. Do you hit stuff very often or is it pretty uncommon?
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: OneWithWood on February 04, 2004, 08:00:48 AM
Do you get paid extra for ventilating the roof?  :D
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 04, 2004, 12:49:12 PM
Nope, no metal detector. I dont hit stuff very often, I catch a lot of it just by knowing what to look for. I probably hit no more then what the guys with metal detectors hit. Its just occasionally I get into something big. twice in the last couple months now. Hit that horseshoe before christmas. That was actually the last thing I recall hitting other then some bullits and sign nails (aluminium)  until I hit this. Thats a lot of wood in between.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: D._Frederick on February 04, 2004, 02:17:44 PM
Jeff,

That was a pretty nice spike that you tried to re-design your saw teeth on!  Does it just break the teeth or does it throw the shanks out too. What do you do, do you set down and start to replace the teeth or put another blade on and go back to sawing?
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 04, 2004, 02:49:24 PM
In this case, no shanks were thrown. This saw has pretty tight sockets as it was reconditioned not long ago. I change the teeth. The only time I change a saw if if the saw itself is problematic. I have went well over 10,000,000 bf before on a saw before having to take it off. Those days are pretty much over now that the back up sawyers saw. THe first thing they do when a saw starts leading on them is crank on the guide pins. As many times as I have tried to teach them, they think that is the answer. The guide pins are NEVER the reason the saw is acting up unless they were set wrong in the first place. I guess I should not say never, I guess there are guidepin setups where the pins can be bumped and moved while sawing, but our assembly, thats really not possible.

Guide pins are only there to protect against catastrophic movement of the saw. Not to guide it. THey should have never been called guide pins, maybe "crash deterrent system" instead. :)
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: AtLast on February 04, 2004, 02:50:43 PM
HOLY MOLY JEFF!!!!.....all I can say is better you than me!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 23, 2004, 04:52:13 AM
mondays suck. I'll say more later cause i'm tryig to type with one hand again.  >:(
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Kevin_H. on February 23, 2004, 04:58:45 AM
Uh Oh  :o

Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 23, 2004, 05:43:16 AM
i think its a little swollen.
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Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Tom on February 23, 2004, 05:50:03 AM
Jeff,
Are you bent on self destruction? :)
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 23, 2004, 05:55:30 AM
i probably shouldget itlooked at butwe are in the middle of a snow storm. roads are horrible. I got hit with a hammer trying to drive links together on a paddle conveyor chain. it hit between my finger and thumb, and i dont think bone is involved. itsure do hurt though
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Tom on February 23, 2004, 06:14:11 AM
If it's bruised from a hammer, cold is the best thing to stop the internal bleeding and fight the inflammation.  You're living in the right spot.  Stick your hand in a snow bank ;D

It won't hurt so much latter if you get it cooled early enough.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: BW_Williams on February 23, 2004, 06:19:49 AM
YEOUCH!!!!  I.C.E. = ice, compression and elevation and get that thing looked when they get the roads clear.  BWW (disclaimer, I'm not a doctor, but the I am on a first name basis with the ER! :D)
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 23, 2004, 06:20:35 AM
you want me to go out there?

view from fron window. lump is jeremys car.
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Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Tom on February 23, 2004, 06:25:39 AM


I'm no Doctor and didn't play one on TV but I did stay in that fancy hotel one time. :D

What lump, Jeff.  You mean that sand dune out the window there?  What beach is that?  ???
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: OneWithWood on February 23, 2004, 06:50:07 AM
Ouch! Now my hand hurts. . .

Definately do the R.I.C.E. thing and keep it elevated above your heart.  Will help the swelling go down.  When the black and blue marks go away it will stop hurting.  Trust me on this.

Sure hope that isn't the hand you use to play checkers.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Kevin_H. on February 23, 2004, 03:39:52 PM
So....who was swinging the hammer? cause I'm thinking payback is in order ;D

Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: WV_hillbilly on February 23, 2004, 04:22:17 PM
  OUCH  !!  

   That wasn ' t your checker playing hand was it  ?  :o
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Jeff on February 23, 2004, 04:32:01 PM
paybacks are hell. specially in this case.  i was swinging the hammer. :-/  you woudl ta had ta been there.  :-/

it aint broke but i'm afraid its goona float away.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Kevin_H. on February 23, 2004, 04:48:37 PM
Didja make up any new words?  :o

I have come up with some interesting phrases in the past...ya should'a been in the woodshop the day my brother shot me in the keester with the brad nailer... :-[

Well keep it on ice and elevated.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Norm on February 23, 2004, 05:39:12 PM
boy that looks sore, lots of ibuprofen and have Tammy give you a back rub.

Won't help the hand but you'll feel better. ;)
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: chet on February 23, 2004, 07:21:03 PM


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Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Kirk_Allen on January 17, 2006, 01:53:13 PM
Well Monday was a 56 degree day and I cut for 5 hrs in the afternoon and managed to bang out about 1200 bf of mostly 2x8 material of which the pile on the far left and far right are 21 footers 8) 8). 

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That old trailer I got at the auction with the LT30 sure has come in handy.  I parked it just behind my mill and would make one pass leaving the board on the cant and while the second pass is being made I would off bear the first board onto the trailer.  The height was perfect and I hardly had to lift anything.  Good thing too.  The left piles was all cottonwood and you could see the moisture rise in the wood as you cut. 
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Larry on January 17, 2006, 04:45:59 PM
Quote from: Kirk Allen on January 17, 2006, 01:53:13 PM
I parked it just behind my mill and would make one pass leaving the board on the cant and while the second pass is being made I would off bear the first board onto the trailer.

That's the only way I saw when cutting construction lumber, or once I get the FAS off when cutting grade lumber.  Run WOT and no clutching even on the gig back.  Wish my up was a lot faster.

Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: getoverit on January 17, 2006, 06:12:21 PM
thats a pretty stack of lumber Kirk !

1200 bf in 5 hours is definitely a busy day!
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: Kirk_Allen on January 18, 2006, 12:09:58 AM
The key to days like that are big and long logs. One of the cottonwoods scaled out at over 625 bf. Now I know I couldnt do that day in and day out but boy it was fun to get to rockin in January while working in a T-shirt 8) 8)   

SNOW today and its COLD :(
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: breederman on April 10, 2006, 08:59:06 PM
We did some Monday evening sawing today.  Our local sawyer was going to saw for my neighbor and I tuesday but he came and set up after I got home from work today and we sawed about 200 feet of oak and hemlock, and maybe 100 feet of pine.  tomorrow we have 5-600 feet of pine and maybe 200 feet of poplar. Should be done by lunch! :)  We start at 7:00 if anybody wants to help me tail. :D
The pine is going to be a ceiling in my basement and the poplar is  going to be paneling in the neighbor's cabin.
Title: Re: Monday Sawing
Post by: breederman on April 11, 2006, 09:01:16 PM
  We ended up with a little over 1500 bd. ft.  the temp.got up around 70 degrees today and that woodmizer kicked this boys butt. Some of  the logs were pretty ugly and made for some heavy slabs.  The popple is almost as heavy as oak when fresh. Now the easy part, waiting for it to dry!