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Title: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 23, 2012, 09:50:33 PM
 

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Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Riggs on February 23, 2012, 09:56:02 PM
whoa....Whoa....WHOA!!!

Hope everybody and everything is ok.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Migal on February 23, 2012, 10:10:47 PM
Boy I hate that when "That" happen,s  :-[
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: beenthere on February 23, 2012, 11:59:01 PM
Must be a story behind that ??

Big DanG
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: sandhills on February 24, 2012, 12:17:43 AM
Somehow I don't think "snap" would've been my word of choice in that particular situation  ;) .  Looks like a typical day playing in the mud and the feedyards around here, glad to see the mill wasn't along that wall.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 24, 2012, 12:38:48 AM
Well, basically, I was doing a no-no, which is usually the case when bad things happen. I was towing a vehicle in a confined space without a helper.  :-X

I got the dump truck stuck there by the building, and was using a bulldozer to pull it out. I was trying not to damage the DT bumper,  :-\ so I hooked onto the frame instead, and I should have known better, but I hooked it in a way that unfortunately allowed it to slip off. So the truck was driverless as it rolled back into the shop building.  >:( 

As you can see, it knocked our shelving unit over and spilled tools, junk, and oil  :o all over some lumber I had air drying there. And the really really sad thing is-- I was planning to move that lumber later in the day.  ::)  It got a small spot of oil on my nice big 3-inch ambrosia maple slab, and a few other pieces that are not nearly as important.

The biggest problem is fixing the wall. You can see this is a quonset type structure. I don't know what the normal way is, but these steel wall pieces are firmly anchored right into the concrete slab.  >:(  Anybody know where I can get replacement panels, and also what to do about replacing these panels even though they are anchored in the concrete?  ???
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 24, 2012, 12:47:35 AM
Quote from: sandhills on February 24, 2012, 12:17:43 AM
Somehow I don't think "snap" would've been my word of choice in that particular situation  ;) .  Looks like a typical day playing in the mud and the feedyards around here, glad to see the mill wasn't along that wall.

A. Nobody was around but me when it happened, so I didn't feel it necessary to say anything....  ;D

B. Oh come on, everybody knows feedlots are built on flat ground, you shouldn't have this kind of problem!

C. The mill is outside!  smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: scsmith42 on February 24, 2012, 04:52:25 AM
Quote from: Okrafarmer on February 24, 2012, 12:38:48 AM
Anybody know where I can get replacement panels, and also what to do about replacing these panels even though they are anchored in the concrete?  ???

That appears to be a Steelmaster building; here is a link to their site:

http://www.steelmasterusa.com/

As far as replacing them at the bottom, two choices come to mind.  First, chip out the concrete around the panel(s) that need removing, and cut the old one out 4" or so deep into the concrete.  Cut the new one to fit and backfill with some type of concrete patch material.

Or - cut the old panel off a foot or so above the concrete, and splice the new one over the top of it, screwing the two together.

Third choice is to cut the old panel off a foot or so above frade, and butt-seam the new panel to it.  Screw on a splice plate that connects the two.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 24, 2012, 06:29:09 AM
Wow, there was some weight or momentum behind that truck when it made that dent.  :o
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: thecfarm on February 24, 2012, 07:52:29 AM
That's too bad.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: paul case on February 24, 2012, 08:41:58 AM
I poked a little hole in my quonset hut with the spear on the FEL on my tractor. it was a bad deal but nothing like yours.
At least no one can say'' why did you back into the barn?''
They can't say you couldnt hit the broad side of barn!
My dad would say you need to clean the stuff out of the middle and back into the wall from the inside.   
PC
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on February 24, 2012, 08:51:55 AM


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Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 24, 2012, 09:16:54 AM
Quote from: scsmith42 on February 24, 2012, 04:52:25 AM

That appears to be a Steelmaster building; here is a link to their site:

http://www.steelmasterusa.com/

As far as replacing them at the bottom, two choices come to mind.  First, chip out the concrete around the panel(s) that need removing, and cut the old one out 4" or so deep into the concrete.  Cut the new one to fit and backfill with some type of concrete patch material.

Or - cut the old panel off a foot or so above the concrete, and splice the new one over the top of it, screwing the two together.

Third choice is to cut the old panel off a foot or so above frade, and butt-seam the new panel to it.  Screw on a splice plate that connects the two.

Thanks. I think the first option is the one we will end up having to do, since even the lower parts of the panels are mutilated.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Left Coast Chris on February 24, 2012, 11:06:10 AM
Just for the heck of it I would suggest calling your homeowners insurance company.    I had a large cotttonwood that needed to come down next to a very old barn in need of repair.  My Chainsaw was only 24" and I did not want to place myself between the barn in the tree at the end of the back cut which left a thicker hinge towards the barn side.  The tree came down and rotated in mid air due the the uneven hinge.  In the rotation a large branch exploded the corner of the barn.   I called the insurance and told them I did it and they said they would come out and look at it.   Adjuster came out and cut a $1200 check.  I repaired it myself for $200.    Calling the insurance company just to check may be worth a try.    You may be able to have the repair done by a contractor.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 24, 2012, 04:39:55 PM
Heck the neighbors had a barn rotting and unkept and one corner fell in. The  covered the repair work. I can't figure that out, but this bunch could find gold in coal.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Left Coast Chris on February 24, 2012, 05:32:45 PM
Strange the word "insurance" is missing from my and SD's posts.  Is there a poltergist at work??   :) ???
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Left Coast Chris on February 24, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
i*n*s*u*r*a*n*c*e

Lets see if that will appear......

Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: beenthere on February 24, 2012, 06:22:40 PM
Yooper night?  insuranc e may be a dirty word. :)
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 25, 2012, 12:41:57 AM
ha ha ha, it is to me. Insurance is a dirty word.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: LAZERDAN on February 25, 2012, 11:34:04 AM
This looks like the perfect time to install a side entry door !
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 25, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
 :D Yeah, maybe!
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: mrcaptainbob on February 25, 2012, 11:48:02 PM
Maybe the company would have repair suggestions.....
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Woodchuck53 on February 26, 2012, 12:09:39 AM
I would think cut off a foot above grade and drill and bolt the new panel or rib over it with some good caulking. Saves messing up the concrete and trying to keep the patch cracks from filling with water and freezing. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 26, 2012, 12:38:23 AM
We talked to the company. Looks like about $1200 for materials.  :'(
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 26, 2012, 05:14:29 AM
Better get selling lumber. ;D
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Busy Beaver Lumber on February 26, 2012, 08:21:52 AM
I like Lazerdan's suggestion. Why not just take a sawzall and cut an opening an install a metal door at that location. Sound like it would cost a lot less and be a lot less hastle
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 26, 2012, 02:09:31 PM
Have to replace 4 2-ft panels. Don't need a door there at all, especially an 8-ft one....
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: LAZERDAN on February 26, 2012, 04:20:57 PM
Would it be possible to reverse dent it back out with a backhoe or skidsteer  from the inside out. Some times pushin in the right spot , maybe ramming the right spot would get it back to straight.. although it might leak at the seam.  I guess it depends if'n it's in the front yard or out back.  Good luck.    Dan   
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: isawlogs on February 26, 2012, 07:34:48 PM

For all its worth here is what I would do if it aint covered by your I n s u rance co. I would be putting the dozer up close to the wall where I could use it as a deadman, using a post and a hydraulic jack I would push the wall out and once the big dents done I would get me a helper and one on each side and finish the smaller dents with a hammer. Any holes can be filled with caulking.
Then again one can spend a pile of money and fix it with new panels too.  ;)

  I have had to fix, weld , replace a few rads out of tractors because of lack of helpers to drive one of the stuck or not running machines .... ::)  Being alone to do things sucks at times, it is what it is.   :-\
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on February 26, 2012, 11:58:34 PM
Quote from: isawlogs on February 26, 2012, 07:34:48 PM

   I have had to fix, weld , replace a few rads out of tractors because of lack of helpers to drive one of the stuck or not running machines .... ::)  Being alone to do things sucks at times, it is what it is.   :-\

Well it's kind of comforting to know I'm not the only one who has done such things.

Thanks for all the advice fellas.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: isawlogs on February 27, 2012, 12:14:05 AM
  :D   You aint first and sure aint gona be last at it!   ;) :D
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Migal on February 27, 2012, 03:45:48 AM
I actually live in a building quite like the one in the pics American Steel Span I would cry at first then I would repair several idea's on how have been posted I liked the jack and hammer seems priced right and plus it leave a discussion item for later in life  8)
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: paul case on February 27, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
My uncle would have fixed it right, however that is for you and then painted it a hideous color that didn't match anything for a reminder not to do that this way again!  PC
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Woodchuck53 on April 25, 2012, 02:09:06 AM
Okrafarmer. Have you fixed the dent yet? Just curious at how it turned out. Chuck
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Buck on April 25, 2012, 08:32:55 AM
Okra, Your story reminds me of driving up on a neighbor several years ago. He was pull starting a Massey 130 alone. Headed down the driveway pull starting with an extra rope from the truck window to the gear shift on the tractor. Once started he would snatch the 130 out of gear. I saved him(or the 130) that time but It didnt end as well all the time. This persistent ole boy did this several times.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: Okrafarmer on April 25, 2012, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: Woodchuck53 on April 25, 2012, 02:09:06 AM
Okrafarmer. Have you fixed the dent yet? Just curious at how it turned out. Chuck

Haven't fixed it. We flashed it so the rain wouldn't come in.
Title: Re: Oh SNAP
Post by: tcsmpsi on April 25, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
There ain't no getting out of it....some lessons are just expensive.   ;)